Peavy Trade Rumors
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It could be that they are haggling back and forth between Grichuk if the Sox add more $ in the deal or Craig if they take less. Craig does have a team friendly deal but it still amounts to $31 M over 6 years.
I'd rather have Craig.
I'd rather have Craig.
SouthernBoSox said:
I'd put him in LF. He's not much of an outfielder, but he's got a decent arm and LF in Fenway would help cover up his poor range.
EDIT- Must be surehanded too... he's never made an error in the outfield. At least not at the MLB level.
He's perfect to take over LF, and can be used there and at 1B/DH. Great eventual Papi replacement.
Craig (or anyone else on the Marlins, Cards, or Braves) must be depressed at the prospect of being traded to the 2014 Boston Red Sox.
Is Craig the one folks are saying is injured? What is his contract? (Or does it matter, if it saves $ for the Sox on Jake Peavy?)
(Oops,. sorry, see the numbers on Craig's contract above.)
Is Craig the one folks are saying is injured? What is his contract? (Or does it matter, if it saves $ for the Sox on Jake Peavy?)
(Oops,. sorry, see the numbers on Craig's contract above.)
There's been some speculation about his foot. He's signed through 2017 with an option for 2018. 6.2 per.InsideTheParker said:
How do you figure? He would most likely play LF mostly, but he can play RF.SouthernBoSox said:
Darnell's Son said:
They could go Craig in left, Bradley in center and Betts in right until Victorino gets back.
Are we trading Gomes and Nava? 2 of the players that have actually been producing in recent weeks.
Craig's career splits are not really inspiring. He hits lefties better than righties, but does not crush them. He's also 29. I'm not sure he'd really be an upgrade over Nava/Gomes in the short term, nor an Ortiz/Napoli replacement. A nice player to have, but I'm not sure how much he adds to this particular club.
Also, FWIW, over the past 365 days he's played in 136 games, 522 ABs, and his OPS is .701.
Also, FWIW, over the past 365 days he's played in 136 games, 522 ABs, and his OPS is .701.
If he hits lefties better than righties, then he's a possible Gomes replacement, not Nava.MakMan44 said:
If you check out Craig's 2013, you'll see that he was very much an above average offensive player from May through August. I'd be willing to trade Peavy and a couple lottery prospects that he can get back to that level, I think it's very likely that he's still getting over the injury we heard all about in the WS.
I'd be all over that....conceivably two future starting position players for two superfluous pitchers.jimbobim said:
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I know Craig is struggling this season, but there's speculation that is related to an injury. From 2011-2013 he was absolutely outstanding. That's a period of about two and a half seasons and he slashed .312/.364/.500/.863. OPS+ was 136, and his spray charts seem to indicate that he uses the whole field. He did all this while being a supersub in 2011 (played 6 different positions) and moving between LF, RF and 1B from 2012-2013. He's had a good amount of big league success. I'm kind of scratching my head on why people around here seem so down on him.
Rudy Pemberton said:
Even if it's not until 2015, he'll be back eventually. I'm fine with Craig, Bradley, Betts for the rest of the season with Nava and Gomes coming off the bench, or even moving Gomes for something.
Cafardo mentioned Craig. Cardinals fans seemed to be less then thrilled at the prospect of Peavy for Craig straight up.
Can't say I'd blame them.
Doubie would definitely be a nice piece to add. Two Starting Pitchers for a guy useless because they have a platinum prospect in Taveras and a decent Adams.
Can't say I'd blame them.
Doubie would definitely be a nice piece to add. Two Starting Pitchers for a guy useless because they have a platinum prospect in Taveras and a decent Adams.
If the deal is Peavy for Craig, the Cardinals are getting fleeced here. There has to be more, right?
And for the record, if the Cards are getting Koji, I want Wong, Tavares, Rosenthal and a PTBNL (Wacha) in return.
And for the record, if the Cards are getting Koji, I want Wong, Tavares, Rosenthal and a PTBNL (Wacha) in return.
MLB OF, 2011-2014
Name, RC+
Mike Trout, 166
Ryan Braun, 157
Jose Bautista, 155
Andrew McCutchen, 151
Giancarlo Stanton, 147
Brandon Moss(!), 144
Matt Kemp, 143
Matt Holliday, 142
Carlos Quentin, 131
Shin-Soo Choo, 131
Carlos Beltran, 129
Justin Upton, 128
Allen Craig, 128
Hunter Pence, 127
Carlos Gonzalez, 126
Name, RC+
Mike Trout, 166
Ryan Braun, 157
Jose Bautista, 155
Andrew McCutchen, 151
Giancarlo Stanton, 147
Brandon Moss(!), 144
Matt Kemp, 143
Matt Holliday, 142
Carlos Quentin, 131
Shin-Soo Choo, 131
Carlos Beltran, 129
Justin Upton, 128
Allen Craig, 128
Hunter Pence, 127
Carlos Gonzalez, 126
Yeah there is no way in hell the Sox include Koji in a Craig + prospects deal. If they do then Boston's system is probably getting reloaded.Hank Scorpio said:
BosRedSox5 said:
I think you answered your own question. People are concerned that the injury may be lingering and the outstanding player may not be coming back. Obviously if you could guarantee that he was going to be that guy again for a couple of years, getting him for Peavy straight up would be a ridiculous steal.
I'm not sure how the Cardinals give up on Craig right now without a viable replacement. They are in the thick of the wildcard race, no?
BosRedSox5 said:
Not "down" per se, but with the injury he's somewhat of a flier, and he's 29. He may have peaked, he may never come fully back. He'd have to significantly improve on his past year's performance to crack the Sox lineup.
At this point he seems sort of like Mike Carp - a guy whose bat might get him playing time at a couple of different positions, but who, barring injury, isn't going to displace Ortiz or Napoli (or even Nava/Gomes). He's got a relatively recent track record of good hitting. In a way though, depending on Craig to revert to first half 2013 form to plug a 2015 hole is just like depending on Carp to revert to his 2013 form. Except Carp hits righties better but has a bigger split than Craig.
Merkle's Boner said:
Yep. This is all speculation. Prospects in trade make the most sense for the Cardinals, unless we do a mini Punto trade where we do a multiple player trade and get back some dead weight on their ML roster for the remainder of our season.
Merkle's Boner said:
They have replacements, including the other prospects being discussed in this thread. Craig has more or less been relegated to a part-time role of late. I think the Cards can stay in the hunt with or without him.
InsideTheParker said:
I know, I'm prone to being really optimistic regarding injury recovery... but I don't know if Craig's injury is the type that would finish him. If he's healthy, many players don't hit their peak, especially power wise until their early 30's. You're right, the Cardinals are nobody's fools... but they've got a logjam and that Craig contract is a bad match for them, but could be a good match for us.
That's not just raising the white flag, that's making a serious effort to get the #1 pick next June. Maybe the Dentist can spin this into some sort of "CHASE for the #1 PICK"InsideTheParker said:
His AAV for this contract is 6.2 million, I would hardly call that an albatross.Tyrone Biggums said:
For a guy who is hitting well under replacement level currently it's a bad contract. If he rebounds then obviously not. It's a solid gamble for peavy. But not for Peavy and KojiDarnell's Son said:
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