Ha, I didn't see that. He must have done it while I was responding, or I just missed it.MakMan44 said:
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It's funny. Even back in 2004 and 2007 I've never heard anyone from those teams call it a brotherhood. Those quotes only reinforce how special 2013 was and how a team like that probably had no business beating St Louis and Detroit in the playoffs. The team won the first World Series at Fenway Park in a long long time. For that alone guys like Peavy Koji and Lackey will be remembered for how they performed in the post season. Say what you will about Peavy but I don't think Boston gets past Tampa without his pitching.
Thank you Jake for 2013. I certainly wouldn't be opposed to bringing him back at some point if the money was right. Jake and the Cigar Store Indian should never have to buy a drink in this city.
Thank you Jake for 2013. I certainly wouldn't be opposed to bringing him back at some point if the money was right. Jake and the Cigar Store Indian should never have to buy a drink in this city.
Surely you jest. That talking point will never die. It's part of the self loathing mantra of many in the media, especially the futbol loving CHB, and is too easy as a story line to just let go.drleather2001 said:
I'm not sure if I've ever heard a player basically say adios to the press before the trade was announced. I don't get what's going on right now.
It would be kind of awesome for Peavy if he gets traded to the Cards and then wins another World Series this year. I wonder if that has ever happened before - a player beats a team in the World Series, then the next year gets traded to that team and wins the World Series again.
It would be kind of awesome for Peavy if he gets traded to the Cards and then wins another World Series this year. I wonder if that has ever happened before - a player beats a team in the World Series, then the next year gets traded to that team and wins the World Series again.
Agreed.
Has anyone heard anything? This seems like such a big letdown. Before the game there were rumors flying left and right, names being dropped. Seemed like a deal was imminent and then. Poof.
The rumor was that they had a deal but just needed to work out finances. Now there's nothing? What happened? Did we ask too high of a price? Did other teams jump in with offers and muddy the waters? It seems like there was a ton of smoke yesterday evening and now it just vanished.
Has anyone heard anything? This seems like such a big letdown. Before the game there were rumors flying left and right, names being dropped. Seemed like a deal was imminent and then. Poof.
The rumor was that they had a deal but just needed to work out finances. Now there's nothing? What happened? Did we ask too high of a price? Did other teams jump in with offers and muddy the waters? It seems like there was a ton of smoke yesterday evening and now it just vanished.
Was taken by his, I'd prefer to remain here, grind it out, and turn this year around -- however unrealistic that scenario is.
Strikes me as exactly the kind of guy you want around young guys to create a winning culture among them. By all means trade him, but recognize that you're parting with someone of great value in addition to what he brings on the mound.
That's why I'd want this guy in St Louis especially but Atl as well.
Strikes me as exactly the kind of guy you want around young guys to create a winning culture among them. By all means trade him, but recognize that you're parting with someone of great value in addition to what he brings on the mound.
That's why I'd want this guy in St Louis especially but Atl as well.
Jake Peavy is going to get traded. http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/11193691/jake-peavy-expects-traded-boston-red-sox … It'll be interesting to see if LAD or SF makes the move, rather than STL.
PrometheusWakefield said:
I think the last one is Don Gullett, who pitched for the 1976 Reds and signed with the 1977 Yankees as a free agent. Doesn't count as traded - but still.
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I might be reading way too much into the ATL bit, to me it seems like "we're interested in Peavy, but the price is too steep and/or we don't want to get into a bidding war with the Cardinals".
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Jake Peavy is going to get traded. http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/11193691/jake-peavy-expects-traded-boston-red-sox … It'll be interesting to see if LAD or SF makes the move, rather than STL.
Sabean is already on record saying that the Giants won't be adding salary at the deadline (which is pretty disappointing to hear considering they have MLB's longest current sellout streak). So unless Boston eats all of Peavy's remaining contract, SF is not a realistic destination. Also, the Giants don't have the prospects to make a salary-neutral deal possible.
Lars The Wanderer said:
I don't see why we wouldn't eat salary for the best return possible. Also, I'm not sure what prospects you're expecting for Peavy but the Giants system isn't that bad and I think they clearly have enough to potentially have the highest offer for Peavy.
gammoseditor said:
The prospect cupboard really is pretty bare for the Giants. Other than Crick, Susac and Escobar, the rest of of their farm is filled with the kind of maybes that are in all team's minor league systems. Besides, the Giants need offense anyway; especially at 2B. I just don't see a match.
Lars The Wanderer said:
I'd be shocked if we did better than any one of those guys for Peavy. He's really not that valuable.
E5 Yaz said:
It got me to thinking about a rule that would allow a player to bat twice in a lineup provided the team only fielded eight defenders and made me wonder if it would ever be possible to make that a winning strategy.
I'm guessing they feel his development will benefit significantly more from major league at bats the rest of the way. I'm also guessing they are trying to make it seem like they are more concerned about Tavares' development than Craig's foot.
He's already had a couple of hundred ABs in the minors this year. That is some development. Making sure he gets another 300+ ABs at the major league level for the rest of the season allows him to continue to develop, as opposed to sitting him on the bench as a part-time player. Keeping him at the major league level seems to be the preferred solution for his continued development.
You always know more about your own players than other teams' players; a thorough review of medical records only partly closes that gap.MakMan44 said:
I think this is a big reason why so many people here want to re-sign Lester; of course, that presupposes that the private information the Sox have about his health is positive.
Probably not a ton, as only teams who could risk $25M over three seasons would be willing to bet that his bat returns the further from his lisfranc injury he gets.EvilEmpire said:
Like the Red Sox, but then the Sox probably want to see if they can get someone younger with more years of control and less injury concerns. In fact, I'd bet they were originally following up St. Louis' overtures by requesting Grichuk, while St. Louis wanted to send Craig. For Grichuk they likely offered to pay some freight but then when St. Louis wanted to swap him for Craig the Sox declined to pay anything if they'd be taking on all the post-2014 money.
Given the shambles that is the MFY pitching staff, and which may have gotten worse, is there any price bordering on obscene, which would suffice all rational and most irrational objections to dealing with the unholy, to deal Peavy 200 miles south?
bankshot1 said:
What do they have that Boston would want? Do they have any usable OF prospects?
There's probably nothing to help the '14 team, but maybe some prospects could be of use in '15 +, Peavy's going to be a FA next year anyway, and likely on the MFY shopping list, so maybe this is a deal you hold your nose, ...
The last deal with NY was Mike Stanley for Tony Armas Jr., who was then 1/2 of the package for Pedro Martinez. No harm sending a 5th starter who's going to be a free agent anyway down to NY, as long as you get a real prospect in return.
If Tanaka is done I don't know why NY would be buying though. They can't really think they can contend with a rotation of Peavy, Kuroda, McCarthy, Phelps, Greene, or whoever else they throw out there.
They're only 3 games behind Baltimore. They unlike us, are still alive in the shitty ALE.glennhoffmania said:
I'd sell them Peavy and false hope for a real prospect.
i would not sell them a chance at a WS.
bankshot1 said:
I absolutely would as well. I'm just wondering if Cashman is smart enough to realize they have no shot without Tanaka. If Tanaka is back in a couple of weeks then I could see him trying to make a move.
88 wins will probably be enough to win the AL East this year. The MFY's chances of winning 88 aren't that much worse than Baltimore's or Toronto's, especially if Tanaka might only miss a month.
We won't get what most of us would consider a "real prospect" for Peavy, but if the MFY offered us their equivalent of Bryce Brentz and no one else offered something more compelling, I wouldn't let the rivalry get in the way of doing something that has a non-zero chance of improving our club in 2015 and beyond.
We won't get what most of us would consider a "real prospect" for Peavy, but if the MFY offered us their equivalent of Bryce Brentz and no one else offered something more compelling, I wouldn't let the rivalry get in the way of doing something that has a non-zero chance of improving our club in 2015 and beyond.
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