Peavy Trade Rumors
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Sorry, Vidal Nuno is already off the table.
Seriously though, the only thing that tweet indicates to me is the strong possibility that Heyman reads the main board here.
Seriously though, the only thing that tweet indicates to me is the strong possibility that Heyman reads the main board here.
Per Rotoworld:
Jayson Stark of ESPN.com hears that a deal sending Jake Peavy to the Cardinals could happen "quick."
The scenario is picking up steam in a hurry, as Gordon Edes of ESPNBoston.com reported late Monday that the Cardinals scouted Peavy's most recent start and Peter Gammons hears that St. Louis wants him for their rotation. The veteran right-hander hasn't pitched particularly well this season, but he could benefit with a return to the National League. The Cardinals could also use the depth given the injuries to Michael Wacha and Jaime Garcia.
Jayson Stark of ESPN.com hears that a deal sending Jake Peavy to the Cardinals could happen "quick."
The scenario is picking up steam in a hurry, as Gordon Edes of ESPNBoston.com reported late Monday that the Cardinals scouted Peavy's most recent start and Peter Gammons hears that St. Louis wants him for their rotation. The veteran right-hander hasn't pitched particularly well this season, but he could benefit with a return to the National League. The Cardinals could also use the depth given the injuries to Michael Wacha and Jaime Garcia.
Great, no reason for Peavy to be here anymore, so hopefully he brings back something useful.
Best case scenario we can get the Cardinals and Brewers and/or Pirates (who apparently have both been scouting him) into a bidding war and get a slightly better offer.
Best case scenario we can get the Cardinals and Brewers and/or Pirates (who apparently have both been scouting him) into a bidding war and get a slightly better offer.
Snodgrass'Muff said:
Brianish said:
I'm dragging this over from the general trade rumors thread.
I don't think Johnson and Peavy is nearly enough. Piscotty is rated the number 49 prospect in their mid season top 50, and BP has him at 30. No matter how you look at it, he's a top 50 guy and you aren't getting that for a veteran rental who is, at best, a middle of the rotation guy for the Cardinals and a low ceiling high floor prospect like Johnson. If you want that kind of return, you have to give up some real prospect value, and Barnes has first round pedigree. He's also a bit broken right now, so he seems like the most obvious fit from the back end of the top tier pitching prospects the Sox have to be sent out.
At this point, with the 2014 season swirling down the drain, I'd rather hold on to guys like Webster, Ranaudo and DLR, save for an opportunity to grab a young offensive monster like Stanton.
Randal Grichuk scratched from #Cardinals AAA lineup. May be involved in #RedSox Peavy trade.
https://twitter.com/StelliniTweets/status/486600473252995072
https://twitter.com/StelliniTweets/status/486600473252995072
Cardinal board says that Grichuk isn't in the AAA lineup tonight. Assuming Piscotty is off limits, he might be the best case scenario if the Sox want an OF.
Edit: or what he said...
Edit: or what he said...
Here is his B-Ref page. 22 HRs last year in AA as a 21 year old. Has played 19 games in St. Louis this season.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=grichu001ran
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=grichu001ran
So, if this comes to pass, Jose Iglesias for a World Series and 6 years of a cost controlled Grichuk?
If it is Peavy for Grichuk the Red Sox should eat all of it. I have a feeling it will be that plus they will send a B- prospect (Luis Diaz or something). I'm not sold on Grichuk either, but as Peavy return he's a great lottery ticket. He has power and he has remained healthy which will immediately make him the Sox top OF prospect.
BA's take on Grichuk(who was taken one spot ahead of Mike Trout).
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/birdland/goold-who-is-randal-grichuk/article_a9bf7506-2f6f-5b1a-bac5-1c7354f33981.html
the1andonly3003 said:
I see this asked a lot and my thought is always "who cares?". The Sox are under the limit this year, they should be willing to take on a sh!tty contract (as long as they remain under the tax threshold) if it means making a deal happen.
Grichuk is an interesting guy. Reportedly he's a very good defensive player, he won a MiLB Gold Glove and he's got a lot of untapped potential as a hitter. He's a real boom or bust type. He swings and misses a lot but he's still so young that he has time to smooth out the rough edges in his game.
Snodgrass'Muff said:
Piscotty's upside is what - corner OF with no power, compared to Barnes - a #3 starter? Sounds more like a one one swap to me.
Just what we need a nice Young OF bat, get it done.
If we don't give up a prospect it means we are eating probably 90% of the contract - which is fine
If we don't give up a prospect it means we are eating probably 90% of the contract - which is fine
https://twitter.com/StelliniTweets/status/486600473252995072findguapo said:
link to tweet
I'm a fan or Grichuk. I would love to see this thing get done. Makes room on the 40 man and keeps RDLR up.
Tyrone Biggums said:
If something is done here, wouldn't Grichuk replace Peavy on the 40 man? How does it make room?
Can we keep RDLR up in the rotation? He's going to be innings limited soon. Or would he go to the pen?
Rovin Romine said:
Piscotty has a much higher chance of actually being a useful major league player than Barnes, though. Barnes struggles this year are pretty concerning for a college product. He has lost strikeouts without eliminating any of the problems that hurt him in Portland last year. Consider the guy taken before him in the draft has already thrown 29 starts in the majors. Barnes still has stuff but struggling in AA at age 23 and AAA at age 24 aren't usually barometers that you are going to hit your upside projection.
RedOctober3829 said:
Sounds like an outfield version of Will Middlebrooks. I'll take that gamble every day of the week.
Corsi said:
Too late. We already lost that trade. No take backs... or steps forward.
I thought he didn't have to be added until November. I could be mistaken though.BosRedSox5 said:
smastroyin said:
Point taken, but can't we pick up no-hit corner OFs fairly easily as FAs? Sure mediocre value balances out against more uncertain decent value?
soxhop411 said:
Could be a coincidence... or maybe Grichuk being out is the coincidence. If they are getting both back, I wonder what else the Sox are kicking in?
Corsi said:
game log says he had the 3rd and 4th off this monthSnodgrass'Muff said:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?id=craigal01&t=b&year=2014
So I do not think its a scheduled off day
Tyrone Biggums said:
He's already on the Cardinals 40-man, so he would have to be added to the Red Sox' 40-man.
Also, it says "scratched" which implies he was in an then removed. That's not common except for trade or injury. Given that he was out a couple days a few days ago, does that suggest perhaps nursing a minor injury?soxhop411 said:
Plympton91 said:
It could also just mean that the teams are close to a deal and that both names are currently in play, but not in the same deal, so the Cardinals pulled both while talks continue, expecting this to drag on into the evening.
EDIT: Well, I wouldn't call it underestimating exactly. I think he's better than you give him credit for though.Rovin Romine said:
Here's a good write up on him.
His ceiling is probably something around 3 WAR, and I'd argue his floor is around 2 WAR if his defense is solid. That's valuable as a cost controlled player, especially considering there's very little in the way of OF prospects in the system.
Grichuk would be a very solid return for Peavy. As noted above, WMBish. Or Reddick-like. Given his power, a very useful guy to have in the OF mix (or as part of a larger future trade for even better OF power).
On one hand, Striewski doesn't seem like an insider, at all. How would he have any inside scoop? On the other hand, he's got that kind of likable college boy charm where you could imagine he knows some people like that and they might tell him things.
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