Yeah, it is just absolutely mind boggling. And it's not just this year, having been helpless at the plate in the playoffs last season too. While arguing for the Red Sox to sign him, or for some team to give him big money last offseason, I like most, thought that was just an ill-timed slump. But, it's been like some switch went off last October 1 (he was great last August/September) that just made it impossible for him to hit, almost like a hitters version of Steve Blass disease. I thought his very nice July was the start of a good finish and salary push, but it's just reverted to awfulness.Gash Prex said:I can't believe how bad Drew has been this season and he's been even worse for the Yankees. A .138 BA, .233 OBP - an ops+ of 34!!! By comparison Xander has an OPS of 87 for the year so far. I suspect he'll be looking at a minor league contract, certainly not a guaranteed salary for millions of dollars.
While I am not sure who was driving that bus this past off season, my gut tells me he lost many millions of dollars by following Boras' advice.
Doubront has an ERA of 1.5 with Chicago. They can't hit in the NL or Theo's coaches saw something that Nieves missed? Or something else altogether.Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat said:Our former pitchers are impacting the NL Central race tonight...
Doubront is shutting out Pittsburgh through 6
Morales gave up 4 runs in 4 innings against St. Louis
InsideTheParker said:Doubront has an ERA of 1.5 with Chicago. They can't hit in the NL or Theo's coaches saw something that Nieves missed? Or something else altogether.
soxhop411 said:X posting from September game thread
Papelbon blew the save. Fans booed him. Papelbon grabbed crotch in front of dugout towards fans. Umps saw it. Umps ejected papelbon.
soxhop411 said:How is Joe west allowed to just toss him aside like that?
It's three games, one of which was STL (described above) and the other two against PIT, which is much worse against lefties than righties.Doubront has an ERA of 1.5 with Chicago. They can't hit in the NL or Theo's coaches saw something that Nieves missed? Or something else altogether.
InsideTheParker said:Barry Larkin (espn) seemed to buy Papelbon's explanation that he was just "adjusting himself," and implied that Joe West should be fined for putting hands on Pap. I surely don't see it that way, myself.
While in some ways I feel you are right I can't help but think if Paps grabbed that fat slob West by the shirt and tossed aside in the same manner Paps would be suspended for a month. If the players can't lay hands on the umps the same should apply considering a chunk of them get more aggressive by the year. IMO there are 2 wrongs here, not just one.The_Powa_of_Seiji_Ozawa said:Jonathan Papelbon got exactly what he wanted.
As a woman, if someone confronted me and blocked my path the way that Papelbon did West, I would probably try to dodge out of the way under one of Paps' outstretched arms and run. But it doesn't strike me as the kind of thing that a man would do. The other umpires would usually intervene, but they didn't get there fast enough. I don't blame West at all.Soxfan in Fla said:While in some ways I feel you are right I can't help but think if Paps grabbed that fat slob West by the shirt and tossed aside in the same manner Paps would be suspended for a month. If the players can't lay hands on the umps the same should apply considering a chunk of them get more aggressive by the year. IMO there are 2 wrongs here, not just one.
Agreed...the shirt grabbing elevated it to a different level in my eyes.Smiling Joe Hesketh said:Papelbon is in the wrong and was acting like a jackass, but West is as well. West cannot be grabbing a player's shirt like that and moving him aside, it's unacceptable.
West also confiscated Bradley's equipment and refused to give it back to him after an ejection. They had a long history of run-ins. An umpire cannot be escalating the situation in any way.Andrew said:If MLB had a problem with what Papelbon did and they wanted to fine and suspend him, that'd be more than justified in my book. Joe West ejecting him and grabbing by the jersey is complete bullshit, and just more of the horsecrap Joe West pulls. From this to saying the Red Sox and Yankees should swing at more pitches, to promoting his horrible country music, Joe West always has an agenda and I'm so sick of it.
Edit: Right, I also forgot when he called Milton Bradley "boy". Probably the only time in chronic rager Bradley's life that he was justified in being so pissed off.
vadertime said:Kyle Weiland is alive, well, apparently still active. According to his baseball cube page he pitched in 14 minor league games this year for various Houston affiliates.
Q: Can you give us a glimpse in to what your life has been like the past year and a half and, also, what is your status currently (from a physical standpoint)?
A: Hmmm…it’s such a long story, but I’ll do my best to summarize it for you. I’ll start from the beginning, talking about going from a high to a low; I started out on an ultimate high, realizing that my childhood dream of becoming a Major League Baseball player had actually become a reality when I broke camp with the Astros to an ultimate low, as I found out later (via my at home nurse), fighting not just for my career, but for my life from a shoulder infection. Three surgeries and months of IV antibiotics later, with a new hole in my rotator cuff, demolished cartilage, and a removed biceps tendon, here I am today. Following my second surgery, doctors told me my career was now just a question mark, which was one of the hardest things I have ever had to hear in my life. Regardless, I decided that my life and career were not in any human hands, and I made a deal with God that if I made it back to baseball, it was because it was what He wanted, and that if it was His will, I would give all the credit to Him. So every single day I continue to progress, I thank and give credit to God who has made it possible for me to be where I am. Currently, I am throwing 3x a week up to 120 ft and plan to be ready to compete at spring training (God willing).
“@Ken_Rosenthal: Told that Papelbon’s penalty did not simply result from crotch grab. MLB determined that he bumped West once and Marty Foster twice.”MakMan44 said:But why is he getting more games than pitchers who are purposely trying to hit players?
soxhop411 said:“@Ken_Rosenthal: Told that Papelbon’s penalty did not simply result from crotch grab. MLB determined that he bumped West once and Marty Foster twice.”
Soxfan in Fla said:How many games is Fat Joe West suspended for grabbing Paps by the shirt and throwing him aside? Ridiculous. Paps was wrong deserved his suspension. West was wrong too and really
needed to be sat down for a few games.should RETIRE!