Following Former Red Sox: 2014

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vadertime said:
Nice writeup by Brian Macpherson about former C Dusty Brown returning to action after a two year absence.
 
Good job burying the lede. ;)
 
Two solo HRs to beat the PawSox today.
 

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Marlins DFA'd Jacob Turner so our old friend Brad Penny may be in line for a start on Saturday. 
 

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Jonny Gomes on Intentional Talk right now. He is the best. Always entertaining for sure. #15.
 

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Kris Negron of the Alex Gonzalez trade has been up with the Reds since Brandon Phillips went on the DL about a month ago and is hitting .283/.327/.522 in 17 games so far.
 

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After 8 years in the minors (including 6 with the Sox after they made him their 1st round pick in the 2006 draft), plus Tommy John surgery and a stint in Korea, RHP Caleb Clay has been called up to the big leagues by the Angels.
 
Boston signed him with a $775,000 bonus, but he underwent the UCL replacement just 5 games into his first pro season in 2007, and never advanced beyond AA in their system.
 

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Lose Remerswaal said:
He had had a nice progression in Games Played
 
2009 32
2010 55
2011 88
2012 97
2013 154
 
until this year.
 
Well, he clearly didn't follow the rule that you shouldn't play more than 30 more games from one season to the next and it caused the injury.
 

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To his credit, Lowrie did try to play through the injury for quite a few games. Hairline fracture to the throwing hand index finger affects every throw from SS and all of his ABs. I think he's actually been a rather model player for the A's. Too bad his hitting is off this year, although he was coming along until the injury.
 

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To be fair, he's had lots of experience trying to play injured.
 
What a frustrating player. All these injuries have essentially ruined his upside; his defense rates out terrible and his lifetime OPS+ is 102, because injuries have ruined several seasons for him. Tough call on whether he's worth the hassle.
 

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Scott Atchison signs extension with Cleveland for 2015.  Option for 2016.  Nice to seem him get some security.  Quietly has been an excellent reliever the last few years.
 
https://twitter.com/hoynsie/status/501769688125558784
 

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Anthony Rizzo just hit HR #30.  It could disappear if the game gets rained out, though.
 

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Jonathan Papelbon with his 100th save as a Phillie tonight, showing a blazing 90 MPH fastball.  His splitter had good movement though.
 
And he now has 319 saves, 17th all time.
 

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Plympton91 said:
Someone is 6-10 with 3 HR in his last 2 games.
 
Not sure what site you're looking at? Manny went 2-5 his last two games (and has been on the 7 day DL, so weird timing to post now).
 

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kieckeredinthehead said:
 
Not sure what site you're looking at? Manny went 2-5 his last two games (and has been on the 7 day DL, so weird timing to post now).
I checked JBJs AAA stats and it's not him either.
 

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E5 Yaz said:
 
Yup, and he's a $22M .287 hitter with 13 home runs.
4 less than that with Fenway right field fence rather than the short porch for his home games going by my rough calculations.
 

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E5 Yaz said:
 
Yup, and he's a $22M .287 hitter with 13 home runs.
So his batting average is basically JBJs slugging, which also happens to be about equal to JBJs on base percentage? I've noticed that many of y'all are big on comparing Rusnay Castillo to Ellsbury, without mentioning that the Castillo contract was mostly a reaction to the abject failure of JBJ to hit major league pitching. Cognitive dissonance I guess.
 

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I've noticed that many of y'all are big on comparing Rusnay Castillo to Ellsbury, without mentioning that the Castillo contract was mostly a reaction to the abject failure of JBJ to hit major league pitching.
 
Yep. Because if there's one mantra that guides major league front offices its, "we already have good players, let's stop getting more of them."
 

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Yeah, it's just so off topic to mention a hot streak by a former Red Sox centerfielder in the "Following former Sox thread." My apologies for interfering with the narrative. Ellsbury bad; JBJ awesome! Got it.

If there's a side in this debate that needs a binky, it's the side that insisted that JBJ was ready to be an everyday player on a pennant contender. Talk about being dead wrong in public.
 

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Plympton91 said:
Yeah, it's just so off topic to mention a hot streak by a former Red Sox centerfielder in the "Following former Sox thread." My apologies for interfering with the narrative. Ellsbury bad; JBJ awesome! Got it.

If there's a side in this debate that needs a binky, it's the side that insisted that JBJ was ready to be an everyday player on a pennant contender. Talk about being dead wrong in public.
 
You win the internet. Again.
 

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Everyone sees through your act by now on this topic, P91. Knock it off. For a guy with so much of value to offer on other topics you're curiously blind to the way you come across on this one.
 
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DanoooME said:
Jonathan Papelbon with his 100th save as a Phillie tonight, showing a blazing 90 MPH fastball.  His splitter had good movement though.
 
And he now has 319 saves, 17th all time.
 
90?  Yikes.  Though, I just looked up his stats and he's having a hell of a season: 1.60 ERA, 232 ERA+, 2.63 FIP, 4.15 K/BB.  He's also looked to be fairly consistent and very good with the Phillies.  Maybe Papelbon can pitch with diminished velocity?
 
It may have been an overpay, but he's been 1.7, 1.5, and now 2.8 bWAR (6 total) and 1.3, 1.0, 1.4 fWAR (3.7 total).  At 6M per WAR (isn't that the going rate? and which WAR is typically used?), he's given them value anywhere between 24M and 36M - while earning 37M.  He just might actually earn that contract!
 

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Plympton91 said:
Yeah, it's just so off topic to mention a hot streak by a former Red Sox centerfielder in the "Following former Sox thread." My apologies for interfering with the narrative. Ellsbury bad; JBJ awesome! Got it.

If there's a side in this debate that needs a binky, it's the side that insisted that JBJ was ready to be an everyday player on a pennant contender. Talk about being dead wrong in public.
 
Jesus christ on a pogo stick dude, just let it fucking rest. By now you should know how people here perceive you in regards to the whole Ellsbury/JBJ stuff, so when you come here to talk about Ellsbury's hot streak and sing his praises, you should either expect the negative reaction and take in stride or reevaluate how you come off on the subject. Being snarky, playing the victim and patting yourself on the back while calling half the board delusional isn't helping.
 

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rodderick said:
 
Jesus christ on a pogo stick dude, just let it fucking rest. By now you should know how people here perceive you in regards to the whole Ellsbury/JBJ stuff, so when you come here to talk about Ellsbury's hot streak and sing his praises, you should either expect the negative reaction and take in stride or reevaluate how you come off on the subject. Being snarky, playing the victim and patting yourself on the back while calling half the board delusional isn't helping.
You hit the nail on the head with perception. The idea that I wanted the Red Sox to sign Ellsbury out of some irrational attitude toward his true worth is belied by the history of my posts on the issue. I listed several fairly conservative WAR-based projections that showed the Yankees offer to be fair value rather than an overpay, I showed how even if it was an overpay the Red Sox had enough cost controlled talent to not have it hamstring them, and I made the case that in the near term they had no outfield depth. On that last point, thankfully I was only right in regard to 2014, as they've rectified the situation for 2015, though they did so in part by gutting their pitching staff and at the mere cost of one of the worst and least enjoyable seasons of the past 2 decades.

Now back to your regularly scheduled near contentless litany of daily updates.
 

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Did you jerk one out while typing that?
 
 "I was right" "I was right" "I was right" "I was right" "I was right" "I was right" GUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUEHNNNNNNNNUH.
 
Enough already. If I wanted to see public masturbatory actions like that I'd go pay $250 an hour for it in the Combat Zone, like any decent person.
 

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Speaking of ex Red Sox outfielders, Grady Sizmore with a 2 run pinch hit homer to put the Phils ahead. Not suggesting it was the wrong move to get rid of him, but he has picked up the pace a little on the Phils: 301 BA with a 330 on base average.