Felger re-iterated that he believes the Moss trade was made to improve the Pats on the field and not for any off-the-field considerations.
Felger and Mazz - Creating False Naratives one day at a time
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Felger re-iterated that he believes the Moss trade was made to improve the Pats on the field and not for any off-the-field considerations.
Exactly how much in the way of sports does he watch? He admitted that he didn't watch much of the Sox for last month or so of the season. He admitted that he didn't watch much of the Pats/Dolphins game. And now, here he is admitting that he didn't watch the Bruins opener.
What is he doing then? Why should anyone care about his opinion on the sporting events that he doesn't watch?
I wish they could work out a segment with Felger and Francesa...THAT would be interesting.
I missed the first hour of the show so I didn't hear that. Fucking awful. But whats almost just as bad is that they make a joke out of it. They always say, "Did you watch the game or were you watching Law and Order instead?"...and then they chuckle. This is because Mazz admitted that he watched Law and Order over a Bruins (or Celtics) playoff game last year. The guy is an embarrassment. That said, it was a good show today with Felger ripping Favre all day.
Yes you can. His job is to intelligently converse about sports. (OK, intelligently may be a stretch.)
Watch the fuckin' games.
Yeah, I'm with Blacken on this T4P... if the Globe asked him to write a piece on the Bruins opening game and he just handed his editor a piece of paper containing texts from Bertrand and B-Real, he'd be shitcanned.
Yeah. He's been beating the drum about how football isn't always about the most talent, and how its FUN to root for "teams" over talented individuals since Moss got here. He is gonna lap up this Patriot team with a spoon.
I think he's gonna say that this win reminded him of Pats wins circa 2001. At least thats how I saw it, and me and Felger have seen eye to eye on the Pats in recent years.
Good radio today --
MAZZ -- "Those drops by Aaron Hernandez pissed me off to no end ... "
something we all can agree on
EDIT --
Felger -- "Brandon Meriweather should be the next guy to go ...Thinks he's better than he is ... and does not get it"
MAZZ -- "Those drops by Aaron Hernandez pissed me off to no end ... "
something we all can agree on
EDIT --
Felger -- "Brandon Meriweather should be the next guy to go ...Thinks he's better than he is ... and does not get it"
I was pretty pissed when Meriweather took that cheap shot on Heap myself and agree that he probably thinks he is better than he is, but I'm certainly not ready to toss him in the bust or bad seed pile either.
I guess it depends on whether or not he is coachable. He is still a young player who has potential to be able to do a lot on the field and aside from Sundays game I have never seen him as a cheap shot artist that lines up for the cheap hit.
He's not a particularly bright (football wise)player yet but that could come with experience and better coaching.
He has the best coach in football coaching him. He isn't going to get better coaching anywhere else. If BB can't get through to him to do things the Patriots way then they should move on from him.
Which is pretty much what I was trying to say, if Belichick can't reign him in I have full confidence that he will get cut.
When I said coaching I wasn't really talking about BB, I meant more along the lines of on the field leadership/mentoring that this young defense is missing.
He is not alone. With the Pats having the near equivalent of two year's of draft picks next April, the uncoachable, undisciplined and infirm on the current roster are dead men walking.
I agree, this is when you really miss guys like Rodney Harrison and Bruschi on the field.
Caught some of the DA show last night and he was harping on "the look" that Belichick gave Meriweather after that play "said it all," which seems to suggest that the coach's patience with him is running close to zero at this point. And I don't recall too many times that guys in Belichick's doghouse made their way out of it before being shipped out of town.
Belichick is a great coach but that doesn't mean that he's the best possible coach for Meriweather. I could easily see Meriweather thriving in Batlimore or with the Jets where it's okay for the players to freelance more and where it's okay to boast, demonstrate swagger, and get a few 15 yeard penalties for late/viscious hits.
Assuming the CBA doesn't increase team control over players to six years, Meriweather's a free agent after 2011, so I could definitely see him getting traded for a draft pick and even if they don't trade him I could see the Pats drafting a safety reasonably high.
I see a player who isn't coachable. Between his benching for the Jets game for "not following the coach's plan" (his own words) and the awful, awful goal line play where he sidestepped the blocker and gave the receiver an unimpeded path to the end zone...I don't see a player who is responding to coaching.
I actually agree that Meriweather might be better or more productive in another system. He likes to free-lance far too much for the Patriots disciplined "everyone does their job" system. I think his true talents are in reading & reacting. If he were allowed the freedom to decide when and where to apply himself, he would probably make a handful of impact plays every year. He would also get burned more often than he excels but in a system like the Jets run, he'd have the deep FS to cover some of those mis-judgments.
In any case, he's not a great fit next to Chung and that's apparent in the playing time being given to Sanders and/or Page. I don't think BB honors the traditional FS/SS roles and I actually think Chung is a better long term fit in the Eugene Wilson role. BB is still looking for the Milloy/Harrison type.
Was I the only one completely turned off by this show yesterday? For the hour or so I listened it was mostly Mazz talking about the Sox ownership and adding seats and doing whatever they can for money, blah blah blah. Seriously, he had to have some sort of major run in with Ownership because he makes zero sense when he talks about the team, he acts like they spend 50 million a year on the roster. I actually changed the station yesterday for the first time as Felger joined in and it was just 20 minutes of ripping the Sox ownership and adding more seats, moving in the bullpens, etc.
I was lucky enough to miss most of that, I left work early yesterday and listened from 3:30-4 and it was most Meriweather talk. The one part I could understand where Mazz was coming from his concern that the Red Sox were now just a part of the JWH portfolio and might not be as important as Liverpool or Rouche Racing.
I missed the stuff that made you turn the show off and it would have driven me nuts too.
Today they will be broadcasting live from the Harp on Causeway Street for the Bruins home opener.
I have started to listen to this show regularly during football season (after not really having the radio on in the afternoons at all - I'm not a Big Show fan by any stretch). I never had much of a feeling for Felger aside from a mild distaste for his bombastic performances on the Big Show back in the day. After six weeks or so, I find him pretty captivating. I like his personality, and I line up with his way of thinking probably 80% of the time. But he has this knack for going on a streak of utter likability, for say, 3 shows, and then just becoming infuriating on day 4. Absolutely insufferable - and then he bounces right back the next day. I think that's his genius - make them like you, but not too much. He has the formula down pat.
No, you weren't the only one. I turned it off after about 20 minutes of talk following the Youk interview. The whole "Red Sox fans should be rooting for the Yankees because it'll force Sox management to really 'Go For It' next season" gets really old too. I really like the Bruins and Pats discussions but the show is unlistenable when Tony talks Red Sox. He sounds like Borges going off on Belichick.
I never get it when people are upset that the team is trying to make money..That is why they got the team. I could understand if they didn't spend any money on the team an people getting upset. But they are in the top 2-3 every year in payroll.
Tell them to move to KC or Pitt.
Tell them to move to KC or Pitt.
Jack hit the nail right on the head, except I would say that BOTH OF THEM sound like Borges talking about Belichick. Felger spent like 10 minutes yesterday ranting about comments JWH said in regards to his acquisition of Liverpool and applying them to the Red Sox, with no factual basis for doing so other than "well, if he plans to run one sports team like this, he must be planning to do the same thing with the Sox".
Absolutely zero consideration taken for the difference in how these sports are run, mind you. Just "oh, Henry says he's going to be frugal and smart with Liverpool... clearly he's doing the same thing with the Red Sox" despite, you know, having our largest payroll ever this past season.
This show is really insufferable when they talk about the 2 teams in town that don't broadcast on their station, and maybe thats the root of the problem right there.
Absolutely zero consideration taken for the difference in how these sports are run, mind you. Just "oh, Henry says he's going to be frugal and smart with Liverpool... clearly he's doing the same thing with the Red Sox" despite, you know, having our largest payroll ever this past season.
This show is really insufferable when they talk about the 2 teams in town that don't broadcast on their station, and maybe thats the root of the problem right there.
I dunno, I'm fine with Felgers Sox rants. I happen to agree with most of them. (go figure) Its Tony's crap I can't stand. He argues narrow points, and just repeats them. Its not entertaining. I'm all for people taking some pot shots at the Sox.......they've gone unchecked over there for too long and this years team chased away a quarter of the fanbase. Just make sure its entertaining.
Well this post-season has taken the "The Sox shoulda' gone the extra mile for Teixeira" arrow out of Tony's quiver. So this is what he's left with.
I simply don't understand you people. Why do you listen to the show if these guys bother you so much? I agree that Mazz is lazy and a broken record most of the time but that doesn't make me disagree with him reflexively because of it. I much prefer Felger, of course. You rarely hear me bitch about The Big Show because I rarely listen to it. So, if you want to participate in the circle-jerk that is The Big Show, when it comes to all things Patriots and Red Sox, and BB, don't listen to Felgy and Mazz. Listen to The Big Show.
Mazz, in print, already has replaced it with "the RS MUST get Cliff Lee" arrow, which is borderline lunacy considering --
(i) the ship already sailed with the RS and Lee (when Theo refused the Indians' offer of him for Clay);
(ii) the RS already are over-invested in SP, or at least mediocre starting pitchng;
(iii) nobody is taking Lackey or Dice-K off their hands anytime soon.
So it's a dead horse -- which Tony will beat like a red-haired stepchild.
To me, Felger talking Red Sox is often like the hot chick you're dating who sounds like a moron when discussing politics. I find his opinions somewhat interesting at times but I'm not expecting too much either way - and he's great 90% of the time overall. Mazz, on the other hand, is the ugly broad you work with who won't stop telling you things that you don't want to hear once, let alone ten times.
As for Sparky's comment, you're right that I probably bitch a little too much at times on this board. But I guess it's because I'll really enjoy the show for four days straight when it's funny and insightful, only to be turned off on the fifth day with Tony talking Red Sox...and repeating the same (often nonsensical) bullshit. Zo and Gresh suck, so I don't care either way, but Felger and Mazz can be great radio at times, so I expect more and am more critical I guess.
I called once and ragged on him about how he was wrong about Lester, Buchholz, and a bunch of other crap he would say. He told me, "Jack, you say the same garbage", I told him "Good. Now you know how your audience feels". I guess if some of his Red Sox rants weren't so repetitive I wouldn't have a problem with it...but "They blew it on Teixeira" and "They are cheap" continue to annoy me so I post about it even though it annoys you. But now that I think about it, maybe I'm starting to sound like Tony Mazz on this board....
As for Sparky's comment, you're right that I probably bitch a little too much at times on this board. But I guess it's because I'll really enjoy the show for four days straight when it's funny and insightful, only to be turned off on the fifth day with Tony talking Red Sox...and repeating the same (often nonsensical) bullshit. Zo and Gresh suck, so I don't care either way, but Felger and Mazz can be great radio at times, so I expect more and am more critical I guess.
I called once and ragged on him about how he was wrong about Lester, Buchholz, and a bunch of other crap he would say. He told me, "Jack, you say the same garbage", I told him "Good. Now you know how your audience feels". I guess if some of his Red Sox rants weren't so repetitive I wouldn't have a problem with it...but "They blew it on Teixeira" and "They are cheap" continue to annoy me so I post about it even though it annoys you. But now that I think about it, maybe I'm starting to sound like Tony Mazz on this board....
Good point. And I truly understand that everyone has an opinion and is entitled to air it.
Yeah, to echo Jack, the show is good, or can be good, and that is why I complain. Gresh and Zo suck, so I don't complain cuz they are awful and I shutter the iTunes stream from 10 to 2. The Big Show is absolute garbage, I haven't listened to WEEI (other than Sox/C's games) since 98.5 came into existence and I won't because they employ D&C and I find that abhorrent and offensive. So I don't complain about anything that station does because I don't know what they do anymore and frankly I'm better off for that, as far as I'm concerned.
But this show, and Toucher and Rich (which I know is not your bag, Sparky) are often good radio and thus, I feel, warrant my mental energy for criticism.
But this show, and Toucher and Rich (which I know is not your bag, Sparky) are often good radio and thus, I feel, warrant my mental energy for criticism.
Today's show is an example of great radio and what makes the Felger and Mazz show different. Felger, doing the Doom and Gloom act about the Bruins, Jack Edwards sitting in and playing the role of homer and Kevin Paul Dupont bringing some solid analysis that was somewhere in the middle. Even if you're not a die hard B's fan it was really entertaining radio.