2015 Cowboys: Romo Nomo
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Trading for anyone really doesn't make sense. No Dez for 8-12, No Romo for 6-8 and Demarco is still an Eagle. Ride it out and hope for the best. Seriously, what would trading future assets do to help now? Still paltry receivers with a mediocre run game, may as well stick with Weeden.
Jones won't see it this way and make a stupid move.
Jones won't see it this way and make a stupid move.
Like trading for Drew Brees.
I think NO would trade Brees for a 1st and 5th in a heartbeat and really begin the rebuild now. They are terrible.
I think NO would trade Brees for a 1st and 5th in a heartbeat and really begin the rebuild now. They are terrible.
The NFC East looks like crap right now. What was likely needing 10+ wins for the division now looks like 8 or 9.
The Giants could be 2-0 and favourites! Instead 0-2 and back to back heartbreaking losses.
The Cowboys will be interesting from here, without Dez and Romo and with the running game looking clearly less scary and powerful that offense is a concern. I mean if the Eagles hadn't been so completely awful we'd probably be talking about how bad the Cowboys offense looked for large parts of the game last night. The miscues (18!) penalties constant oline formation and false start penalties was a major surprise.
The game was just so horrible though maybe it's just one to write off and move on. Just bad for everyone and every way really.
Sean Lee was absolutely amazing last night btw. He was really why I was dubious about the Cowboys D last year, and with him back you can see why. That D is pretty ok now, though the secondary is a concern still esp until the pass rushers get back. I don't know how much of last night was the Cowboys, it looked as much self inflicted by the Eagles as a masterclass by the Cowboys. But that is hard to tell until I rewatch the film.
Just an awful game for everyone, injuries, constant flags, terrible play. I mean right up until the end zone INT and maybe even the insane fumble on the botched snap the Eagles could have still stolen it. Which would have been ridiculous.
You cannot have had an opponent play worse on offense, They would have been better to have punted on first down, except they had a punt blocked for the only tD until late!
Still at this point it's the Cowboys Division to lose, even without Romo or Dez, which says more about the rest of the division more than it does about the Cowboys depth.
The Giants could be 2-0 and favourites! Instead 0-2 and back to back heartbreaking losses.
The Cowboys will be interesting from here, without Dez and Romo and with the running game looking clearly less scary and powerful that offense is a concern. I mean if the Eagles hadn't been so completely awful we'd probably be talking about how bad the Cowboys offense looked for large parts of the game last night. The miscues (18!) penalties constant oline formation and false start penalties was a major surprise.
The game was just so horrible though maybe it's just one to write off and move on. Just bad for everyone and every way really.
Sean Lee was absolutely amazing last night btw. He was really why I was dubious about the Cowboys D last year, and with him back you can see why. That D is pretty ok now, though the secondary is a concern still esp until the pass rushers get back. I don't know how much of last night was the Cowboys, it looked as much self inflicted by the Eagles as a masterclass by the Cowboys. But that is hard to tell until I rewatch the film.
Just an awful game for everyone, injuries, constant flags, terrible play. I mean right up until the end zone INT and maybe even the insane fumble on the botched snap the Eagles could have still stolen it. Which would have been ridiculous.
You cannot have had an opponent play worse on offense, They would have been better to have punted on first down, except they had a punt blocked for the only tD until late!
Still at this point it's the Cowboys Division to lose, even without Romo or Dez, which says more about the rest of the division more than it does about the Cowboys depth.
LondonSox said:
It looked to me like it was 75/25 Eagles O-line/Cowboys defense. The defense took advantage of just about every opportunity they got, which was many thanks to that sieve of an offensive line. Even when Bradford had time, he was just completely rattled. And Murray was constantly being hit five yards behind the line of scrimmage.
That was just an insane game. I heard a crazy stat that really put in into perspective: on the final drive of the first half, when the Cowboys drove for that last-second field goal, they snapped the ball 21 times. In the span of five minutes of game time, they snapped the ball 21 times. A lot of those were aborted plays due to numerous false starts but there was a lot of yo-yoing due to the penalties on both sides. That really was one of the worst-played games I've ever seen. I don't watch Browns football, though, so take that for what little it's worth.
Where they go from here without Romo and Dez is anybody's guess. A lot of guys are going to have to step up in order to keep their heads above water in the standings. Most importantly, the offensive line is going to have to cut the shit and play to their potential. Defenses are now going to key on the running game, so they're going to have to give Weeden time - without committing penalties - if they're going to have any hope of keeping defenses honest.
Somebody floated this seriously in print last night, and it's the most idiotic concept imaginable from every conceivable perspective.86spike said:
I'm convinced now that nobody outside DC, except film studiers who know what they are watching, have no idea what this player is and what has become of him.
@AlbertBreer: Source: Bills is the process of trading Matt Cassel to Dallas.
Makes a lot of sense.
Makes a lot of sense.
Don't get this deal for the Bills. They are a tyrod taylor injury away from going to EJ Manuel.
Bosoxen said:
You do realize if you come to a Pats board to discuss the Cowboys, you might hear the occasional comment about the Pats, right? Presumably there are Cowboys boards out there if you want to be insulated from that, which is perfectly legit.
SeoulSoxFan said:
Anyway, on Cassel, this strikes me as a pretty decent trade -- in a minor key -- for the Bills. Cassell has a 1.8 million $ contract...? that's not a totally insignificant hit to get out from under, and a lot for the Cowboys who, let's face it, if they have to use Cassell are absolutely sunk. Not that getting a 5th rounder is huge..but I assumed the draft swap would be even less than that. I guess it's all very minor stuff in the larger scheme, still... a bit surprised by this from a Dallas perspective.
Tony C said:
I've asked repeatedly for the non-Pats, general NFL stuff to be separated for this precise reason. The Pats fans act like they own the place, and this post is exactly reflective of that attitude. Some of us couldn't give two rat fucks about the Pats and would like to discuss other teams/general league topics without every single thread coming back to the predominant team. I don't think that's too much to ask but if the EXTREMELY vocal majority won't have it, then I guess the rest of us are shit out of luck.
It's like Godwin's Law at this point. Eventually, every single thread in this forum will be derailed into a Patriots-centric discussion. There's a hive mind mentality in this forum and once the hive starts buzzing, the thread is cooked. I'm merely trying to prevent that from happening in our tiny corner of SoSH.
Finally, I appreciate you inviting me to go somewhere else to discuss the Cowboys, but I've been there and done that. I'd much rather talk about it here with the handful of knowledgeable posters we have than with the general population of mouth-breathing morons that make up the Cowboys fanbase. I used to help moderate the board on dallascowboys.com and I'll be damned if I ever go back to something like that again. That was the seventh circle of hell compared to the Deflategate threads here on SoSH.
Tony C said:
Cassell is no great shakes, for sure, but he's a proven commodity (whose value is admittedly not going to knock your socks off). Weeden is still very much a question mark and with Romo likely returning at the beginning of December, it's a good idea to have an insurance policy so he's not coming back to captain a sinking ship. If they can salvage a potential playoff spot, a fifth-round pick is a very small price to pay. If they can catch lightning in a bottle with one of Weeden/Cassell, like they did with Steve Beuerlein in 91, why not take a shot?
At least they didn't trade a second-rounder for a Matt Flynn type. That would be a waste.
Not that i don't agree with your point, Pats fans shouldn't go into every thread and make Pats related comments for no reason, but wasn't it split out before and it turned into a barren wasteland?
I mean go look at the Yankees forum, it's basically Jon Abbey posting by himself. (Yogi Berra from today excluded)
I mean go look at the Yankees forum, it's basically Jon Abbey posting by himself. (Yogi Berra from today excluded)
There's a difference between going into other team's threads and discussing the Pats and going into other team's threads and saying oh good your team lost that's what you get for playing us last year after Deflategate and having the temerity for trying to win the Super Bowl, or oh good your star players are injured that'll make it easier for us to beat you in Week 5. The latter is embarrassing.
So who predicted that through two weeks, Dallas would have the #1 run defense in football (by yards per carry)?
NortheasternPJ said:
Yeah, but it was done in the offseason. In other words, it never had a chance.
The Yankees forum is the only comp we have but it's also apples and oranges. The non-Sox forums are split into general MLB, Yankees and other teams. Were they to combine all three into a single forum, I think there would be a decent amount of discussion.
But anyway, we're getting too backwashy.
Super Nomario said:
I can't believe they let Murray get into positive yardage. Completely wrecked their yards per carry.
Marciano490 said:
Hear, hear.
Posts of this latter nature should be ignored. If Cowboys (or any other team's fans) think it's the latter, send us a PM and we'll move it to the appropriate Pats-related thread. Don't engage, don't post long diatribes about it...just let me, SeoulSoxFan or ThereIsNoRev know, and we'll do our best to keep the embarrassing shit corralled.
As a Pats fan, I admit to sometimes posting a snide remark in a thread about other teams. It is a little confusing in that this section of the board is Boston Sports | Blinded By The Light The Patriots Forum. It is not always clear which thread is meant to be for fans of or at least intelligent discussion of other teams only and which are meant for football fans to ridicule. For example, are their actual Colts fans in the Colts thread? The snarky thread titles don't help either.
Just my two cents.
Just my two cents.
The Colts are playing like shit and started DFG. The Cowboys are 2-0, have a ton of interesting things going on with injuries and had nothing to do with DFG beyond the imaginations of poor persecuted fans parsing what JJ may or may not have said or done. Plus, you can read the threads and see which have active fans and which don't.
So I had a weird thought in the light of Owens trying to invite himself onto the roster. If they intend to hand the keys to Cassel would it make sense to see if Moss has about 5/6 games left in him? If he does, Cassel knows him and has thrown to him while with New England. I don't think it is a great idea, but it might be worth a thought or two as a low risk, medium reward type idea.
pappymojo said:
FTR, there are Colts fans on this board. But they don't participate because this forum is mostly populated by Pats fans who make them feel unwelcome.
It would be better for this forum if all Red Sox fans were able to "fly their colors" in this subsidiary forum. But it likely will never be the case, and so we lose some potentially good, valuable members because people forget we're all on the same (Red Sox) team, here.
Oh, and what Marciano490 said. Someone oughta make that guy a Dope.
RetractableRoof said:
The guy is 38 and been retired for 3 years (and his 2012 he un-retired to play all ready). What makes you think he's itching to play with game-ready form THIS year rather than the past 3?
I don't care how ready Cassell is, he has to start next week. Even half of the playbook will be more effective than whatever the fuck Weeden did all day today. Bonus points for his complete and utter lack of game awareness. His interception and sliding down on 3rd down while running the two minute drill showed a stunning lack of football IQ. Thanks for nothing, Captain Checkdown.
Extra special mention for Jason Garrett calling a timeout with :40 remaining in the half and a first down at the one. I really hope you're proud of that three points you gifted them, you raging, stupid fuck. Had you had a competent quarterback, that would have been the difference in the game. It's a really good thing you were born without a soul, otherwise you would have found some monumentally stupid way to lose it.
I'm not even drunk. It's just that between this and the Longhorns, I've already had my fill of stupid, pathetic football for the season.
Extra special mention for Jason Garrett calling a timeout with :40 remaining in the half and a first down at the one. I really hope you're proud of that three points you gifted them, you raging, stupid fuck. Had you had a competent quarterback, that would have been the difference in the game. It's a really good thing you were born without a soul, otherwise you would have found some monumentally stupid way to lose it.
I'm not even drunk. It's just that between this and the Longhorns, I've already had my fill of stupid, pathetic football for the season.
Wtf! I just had a long thought out post to compliment your rage and then by some magical movement of my fingers on the iPad screen...poof. Gone. I'll just sum it up with this. I don't think I've had that much sports rage since....forget it. Never. I feel for you dude.