2015 Cowboys: Romo Nomo
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I agree with SF121 and crystalline. Weeden has completed a high % of his passes and has generally managed the game well. He has been a bit unlucky to be 0-3 at this point. I doubt Cassell does much better.
Bosoxen said:
Ok, I sort of cherry-picked the endpoints, but his last half-decent season was 5 years ago. He's been awful ever since. He's 33 now and probably not as good now as he was then. What evidence is there that his performance five years ago is more predictive than everything he's done since then, including getting benched for Brady Quinn in KC, getting benched for Josh Freeman and Christian Ponder in Minn, and getting beat out by Tyrod Taylor in Bufallo?
True, his Vikings and Chiefs teams did not have much in the way of receivers (although Bowe was a good player for a while there, and the Greg Jennings/Jerome Simpson/Coradelle Patterson group in Minn isn't really worse than the current Cowboys sans Dez), but Cassel got to hand off to Jamaal Charles in KC and Adrian Peterson in Minn. He'll have no such luxury with the Cowboys.
soxfan121 said:
I'll defer to you since you got to watch him more up close than I did, but I was under the impression that the 2008 Pats offense was more of a vertical passing offense. I figured that meant he could throw the ball downfield. Maybe that's not his preference but he is capable, right?
coremiller said:
With the possible exception of Quinn, couldn't it be argued that all of those quarterbacks that displaced him had longterm value to their clubs? I know we can look at getting benched in favor of Freeman and Ponder as bad things now, but those guys were their respective franchise's "future" at that time. The same may be true of Taylor but with his age and considering the coach, I'm not even going to try to apply any sort of logic to that.
I don't know if my stance is clear or if it's getting lost. I don't expect Cassell to be the Pro Bowler he was five years ago or the season savior he was seven years ago. I merely expect him to play .500 ball and keep the season afloat for when Romo returns. All he needs to do is allow the offense a little room to breathe so they can get their running game going and let the chips fall where they may.
Bosoxen said:
Not really, and 2008 was a long time ago. Last season Dave Archibald looked at the Cassel-led Vikings offense - it wasn't good.
Cassel certainly has a weaker arm, compared to Weeden. Cassel might be a bit more accurate deep, but we're talking a meaningless distinction. Cassel might not be as prone to terrible decision, though even that's debatable based on last year's film.
Sorry...Cassel is basically the same guy as Weeden; neither is very good, or capable of going downfield.
Even in 2008, Cassel was a liability throwing deep. Moss was coming off a record-breaking season and barely got 1000 yards. It's the worst part of Cassel's game. One thing he has going for him is a little mobility; maybe the Cowboys can cobble together some O out of bootlegs and rollouts. Until Dez gets back, they might have a bottom-5 WR corps, which is a big part of the problem right now; they might be struggling even with Romo.soxfan121 said:
Greg29fan said:
Winner winner, chicken dinner!
Stephen needs to restrain Jerry, just like he did during the draft when he prevented him from picking Manziel.
But at least some good news out of that article: Randy Gregory is expected to play Sunday.
He's alive and "progressing", whatever that means.
Thankfully, Dez didn't practice yesterday, reducing the likelihood that they'll be stupid enough to have him play Sunday. They need him at 100% if they're going to have a prayer at salvaging the season.
Thankfully, Dez didn't practice yesterday, reducing the likelihood that they'll be stupid enough to have him play Sunday. They need him at 100% if they're going to have a prayer at salvaging the season.
SeoulSoxFan said:
Ah, should have looked back. I don't spend much time in this thread. And with that...
So they traveled east, left Dez behind, and created the fiction that he could fly in and still play. Finally, he has been downgraded to out.Bosoxen said:
I imagine Stephen Jones has his hands full these days with the old man. The hyper-rich share many of the common man's problems.
Baby macaque? Maybe the longtailed one?soxhop411 said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1161526/The-macaque-monkeys-teach-babies-floss.html
Those things are nasty and dangerous when they grow up
dcmissle said:
Monday:
"Heh, heh...Stephen, we'll tell 'em Dez might play and they'll spend time preparing for him. I'm a football genius."
"Sure you are Dad."
Saturday:
"Heh, heh...Stephen, we'll tell 'em Dez could fly to the game and be active and they'll prepare for it. I am a football genius."
"Sure you are Dad."
Sunday:
"Dez is playing next week."
"No Dad."
"But I paid for him! And I'm a football genius!"
"He's hurt."
"But if we SAY he's gonna play..."
"Sure, Dad. Go tell the press Dez is gonna play."
And then he paid for his own flight and went anyway and was filmed warming up.
You know they are rushing him back next week.
You know they are rushing him back next week.
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@jonmachota Jerry Jones on Greg Hardy: "That's the kind of thing that inspires. He's just getting guys ready to play in my view."
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@jonmachota Jerry Jones on Greg Hardy: "That's the kind of thing that inspires. He's just getting guys ready to play in my view."
This is like the second time Jerrah has enabled bad Hardy behavior in less than 3 weeks. Feel like this isn't going to end well.pjr said:
Van Everyman said:
Hardy has Aaron Hernandez potential. He is a crazy MF. And it's all good in the dysfunctional family of the Dallas Cowboys! Thanks Jer!
http://deadspin.com/greg-hardy-got-in-a-fight-with-the-cowboys-special-team-1738623781
Yeah you really don't need the owner supporting the behaviour, he did it with Dez but Dez always seemed like a guy who just cared too much. A loveable emotional freakish talent.
Hardy? Not so much. I'd have thought the coaching staff would like to have a say, and now what can they do Hardy will say the boss likes it, so bugger off.
I'd be delighted to see him kicked off the team and out of football, and it's a shame that the cowboys need him
Hardy? Not so much. I'd have thought the coaching staff would like to have a say, and now what can they do Hardy will say the boss likes it, so bugger off.
I'd be delighted to see him kicked off the team and out of football, and it's a shame that the cowboys need him
soxhop411 said:
What a shit show of an organization.
I guess good on Garrett for calling it like it is. But good looking building an actual team that way.
The Cowboys enabling and seemingly acceptance of Hardy's behavior is a disgrace. A mentality of perennial losers.
soxfan121 said:
My first thought is that Hardy would destroy Bryant. But then I remembered the story about Hugh Douglas confronting Terrell Owens in the locker room. Douglas was a much bigger, stronger man, but apparently Owens kicked his ass. So who knows? But Hardy...goodness, he's a ticking time bomb.
Charean Williams @NFLCharean 10m10 minutes ago
Jerry Jones repeats on @1053thefan what Stephen said yesterday: The Cowboys want to sign Hardy to long-term deal.
Jerry Jones repeats on @1053thefan what Stephen said yesterday: The Cowboys want to sign Hardy to long-term deal.
While watching him against the Pats I'll admit to thinking "he has many, many flaws but Hardy is a hell of a football player...maybe he's worth it?"
I'm now fully back in the camp that the rest of the league correctly assessed the benefit/burden of Hardy during this offseason.
I'm now fully back in the camp that the rest of the league correctly assessed the benefit/burden of Hardy during this offseason.
I feel for our cowboy fans brethren here. If they really want to do some long term deal then they are sitting on not one but two ticking time bombs. The eventual hardy suspension and the new contract. The order in which these events happen will matter a lot to the Cowboys.
Well, it looks like Joseph Randle's time with the team may be coming to an end:
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/659732681912020992
And this:
What a moron. Guy just can't get out of his own way.
Fucking Dunbar. That dumbshit decision to run the ball out from eight yards deep in the end zone keeps fucking the team.
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/659732681912020992
And this:
What a moron. Guy just can't get out of his own way.
Fucking Dunbar. That dumbshit decision to run the ball out from eight yards deep in the end zone keeps fucking the team.
Pretty amusing the compare the treatment of Randle and Hardy. Both have off field issues, both have are absent from practice without permission...but one's a game changer, and one's not.
ESPN should partner with Jerruh to reboot Playmakers.
ESPN should partner with Jerruh to reboot Playmakers.
I wonder how much their respective contracts and position on the field play into the decision making.
(That's a rhetorical question. You don't need to answer it.)
But seriously, I'm sure there's a fatigue factor involved, as well. They're both assholes but they may not yet have reached the point where they're sick of Hardy's shit - I'm certain that day will come. It's likely they've reached that point with Randle, however.
(That's a rhetorical question. You don't need to answer it.)
But seriously, I'm sure there's a fatigue factor involved, as well. They're both assholes but they may not yet have reached the point where they're sick of Hardy's shit - I'm certain that day will come. It's likely they've reached that point with Randle, however.
Jerry Jones is a hypocrite. Unbelievable how different the Randle and Hardy situations were handled.
Clearly. I mean who wouldn't follow Hardy's lead? Beat a woman, get a year long vacation while getting paid seven figures, then blow up at a superior while your boss lauds your leadership ability. He's got it made.yecul said:
And the resultant reaction will totally impact his future behaviour because he ended up getting a contract extension discussion. So the lesson is, act up if you matter or are goodRedOctober3829 said:
Maybe dez could punch a baby for an extension? Or is that what is in the video and already helped.
It really pisses me off to see the hit by Heath described as a blind side hit. I hate the damage of such plays - and I can see the argument of those who say he didn't have much by way of reaction time. But it was head on, there wasn't much by way of any angle at all, it wasn't a blind side at all. Heath himself was obviously bothered by the result of the play. It sucks to me that the hit might be viewed as anything but a devastating but clean hit.
If the league wants to outlaw two on one special teams coverage I'm for it to avoid such hits.
Am I viewing this from the wrong lens???
If the league wants to outlaw two on one special teams coverage I'm for it to avoid such hits.
Am I viewing this from the wrong lens???
RetractableRoof said:
Nope. As a Seahawks fan, I totally agree it was not a blindside hit. Lockette slipped or pulled something trying to get away from the gunners, looked up and saw Heath coming right at him and just reacted by ducking his head. It was an unfortunate play, but not dirty or illegal at all.
How out there is Hardy's behavior? Jerry Jones put up with Charles Haley calling him Massa Jerry among other crazy shit so I don't see why he would care too much about this stuff
@RapSheet: PETA contacted DeSoto (TX) Animal Control to request investigation into #Cowboys WR Dez Bryant’s “possible illegal possession” of a monkey
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@RapSheet: PETA’s Brittany Peet: “Monkeys belong in the wild—not (for) football players who acquire exotic animals just to make a splash on Instagram.”