2015 Cowboys: Romo Nomo

soxfan121 · Sep 3, 2015

Ed Hillel said:
It is a different process, but I think Hardy may have a law of the shop argument for a 2-game suspension. That was generally the punishment Goodell handed out for players beating the shit out of women for a long while, and this infraction happened before the new policy. Prior to Rice, did he suspend any player more than 2 games for it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suspensions_in_the_National_Football_League

It looks like five players were suspended before Rice for "domestic" situations; Michael Pittman got three games from Tagliabue in 2004; Duane Carswell, Brad Hopkins & Ricky Manning got 1 game, the first two from Tagliabue, Manning by Goodell in his first year on the job. Chris Cook got "entire season" in late October 2011 for domestic assault from the Vikings (his employer).

What makes Hardy different is A.) bench conviction, B.) different, non-Goodell arbitrator (Harold Henderson, League employee), and C.) prior court finding/process. Seen many lawyers on twitter today opining that Hardy can try, but he'll likely lose.

canderson · Sep 4, 2015

The cut Gus Johnson. Boooooooooo.

SeoulSoxFan · Sep 6, 2015

Really like the Michael pickup. Was one of the "leap" candidate from the Around the NFL guys: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000357110/article/making-the-leap-no-23-christine-michael

The former Texas A&M thumper with freakish combine numbers brings a hard-charging, downhill style to his game that fits perfectly with Seattle's offense. "He has breakaway speed and power behind his pads," coordinator Darrell Bevell recently cooed.

I went back and watched all of Michael's regular-season snaps and preseason work from Year 1.

The sample size is thin, but Michael bursts off the screen. He runs with a low center of gravity and a heavy dose of power. While dishing out punishment, the 5-foot-10, 221-pounder still has the wheels to dart away from would-be tacklers into the second level and beyond.

Michael's burst through the line helped him regularly chew up six, seven and eight yards per rush. General manager John Schneider has labeled Michael and Percy Harvin as "two of our most explosive offensive players."

The Texas A&M strength coach who trained both Michael and Adrian Peterson told ESPN's Louis Riddick that "Christine's athletic explosiveness is on par" with the Vikings All-Pro back.

Having said that, the Dallas OL could have resuscitated Trent Richardson's career.

sfip · Sep 7, 2015

Tons of talent, but issues with maturity. Jerry Jones has a long history of picking up players with that description.

Bosoxen · Sep 7, 2015

Man, that was a hatchet job of which even the Boston media would be proud.

Tony C · Sep 7, 2015

It was actually refreshingly on the record and candid. An article about a 2nd rounder being dumped isn't going to be filled with praise, not sure what you expected there, but this was the opposite of a hatchet job - not filled with off the record stuff or conjectures or CHB bs. That said, I suspect you got a good deal in Michael -- great situation for him

LondonSox · Sep 7, 2015

Yeah that seems a pretty decent article. He's very talented but hasn't been able to channel it. Maybe he will at Dallas, maybe he won't. Given what the Cowboys have at rb and the price it could be a good deal.
If I was a Cowboys fan I would be getting a bit concerned about the amount of players with baggage. I only say this in terms of the team supporting a headcase and keeping them on point but at some point too many headcases mean that is the indentity of the team.

And before you say yeah whatever eagles fans I would say it worked for the Red Sox and cowboy up and all.

I also know there are leaders in the Cowboys but damn Jerry is keen on spreading them thin!

DanoooME · Sep 7, 2015

Just wait as you watch him break down the left sideline with the ball in his right hand. It's downright frightening.

And while he got a little better at blitz pickups, he's still not good at it, his instincts are poor.

Tangled Up In Red · Sep 7, 2015

Cowboys sign former Boise State Bronco (and all-time winningest college) QB, Kellen Moore, who was cut by the Lions.

Bosoxen · Sep 8, 2015

LondonSox said:
Yeah that seems a pretty decent article. He's very talented but hasn't been able to channel it. Maybe he will at Dallas, maybe he won't. Given what the Cowboys have at rb and the price it could be a good deal.
If I was a Cowboys fan I would be getting a bit concerned about the amount of players with baggage. I only say this in terms of the team supporting a headcase and keeping them on point but at some point too many headcases mean that is the indentity of the team.

And before you say yeah whatever eagles fans I would say it worked for the Red Sox and cowboy up and all.

I also know there are leaders in the Cowboys but damn Jerry is keen on spreading them thin!

The only players that would concern me would be Dez, Hardy and Michael. There are other points of concern, like Scandrick/McClain/Gregory and keeping Randle out of the Frisco mall, but I don't see any major red flags other than the former three. Michael will likely be a Martellus Bennett type of flop, but for a conditional seventh, it's a risk worth taking (even though I will find it very hard to root for him). Dez has generally kept himself out of trouble but we don't know what the money will do to him and Hardy, well, not much needs to be said about him.

There are some stress points on the roster, no doubt about it, but this is still nowhere near the cast of outcasts and dipshits that Jerry built under Wade Phillips' nose. The Bryant/Hardy/Michael trio is nowhere near as bad or concerning as the TO, Tank Johnson and Pacman Jones show. Talk about a murderer's row of knuckleheads.

I doubt they'll win 12 games again, but it won't be because the team imploded due to bad behavior.

LondonSox · Sep 13, 2015

This seems like a lot for guy with three career sacks and missed all of 2013. But I'm not that familiar with him.

5y 45 million 25(or 17.5) guaranteed.
What say the Cowboys watchers.

http://mobile.sportingnews.com/article/4655086-cowboys-tyrone-crawford-agree-to-monster-contract-extension-nfl-dallas-football?modid=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.co.uk&utm_source=mweb&utm_medium=mweb&utm_campaign=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.co.uk

soxfan121 · Sep 13, 2015

Crawford is one of Dan Hatman's "players to watch", and he wrote about him here. Guy has monster potential that he's begun to harvest and this deal might seem a bargain after the season, if he continues to improve.

LondonSox · Sep 13, 2015

Thanks. I didn't see that article (and btw lane Johnson didn't miss 4 games to a knee injury last year it was a suspension.)

soxfan121 · Sep 13, 2015

LondonSox said:
Thanks. I didn't see that article (and btw lane Johnson didn't miss 4 games to a knee injury last year it was a suspension.)

Thank you, LS. Updating it now.

soxhop411 · Sep 14, 2015

https://twitter.com/PatDoneyNBC5/status/643269907942014976

https://twitter.com/PatDoneyNBC5/status/643269907942014976

link to tweet

Seems like Dez's ankle is bothering him.

Freddy Linn · Sep 14, 2015

Dez has a broken bone in his foot as per NFL network.

soxhop411 · Sep 14, 2015

And it's a broken bone in his foot

“@DesmondPurnell: Cowboys Owner Jerry Jones just told me @DezBryant suffered a broken bone in his foot.”

RedOctober3829 · Sep 14, 2015

Dez Has a broken foot per NFL network postgame show

RedOctober3829 · Sep 14, 2015

@DMN_George: Jerry Jones said Dez Bryant needs a screw in his foot. Says he'll miss 3-6 weeks probably.

Ed Hillel · Sep 14, 2015

Has Dallas used its IR-DtR yet?

Van Everyman · Sep 14, 2015

@jeffphowe: With Dez Bryant out 4-6 weeks, Malcolm Butler likely won't have to deal with one of the most physically imposing receivers in the NFL.

soxhop411 · Sep 14, 2015

“@clarencehilljr: Randy Gregory has a high ankle sprain. That is usually four to six weeks”

LondonSox · Sep 14, 2015

Was unable to watch the game as it was late for me here, but sounds like the Dallas running game maybe missed Murray a bit?

This is the big thing for me, if the running game is down, will the play calling shift to a pass heavy approach again (eg this game 45/23 split). If so I think that's a big mistake. The Dallas line is better in run blocking than pass protection, you don't need to let Romo take a lot of extra shots and the best thing for the Dallas D last year was ball control running game. I do think the Cowboys D is a little better than last year, but it doesn't have the depth to be exposed too much.

The Dez injury only makes this worse. If you go pass heavy sans Dez I think that would be a worrying sign. I don't think anyone would argue this Dez injury is a good thing, but it could force them back to the game plan that worked for them last year.

The 45 pass attempts vs 23 rushes is not a number I think the Cowboys can win with long term. In any given game whatever, esp given down and chasing the game late etc.

But the Giants run d is not really any good and 22 carries @ 3.7 yards per is going to be a big stat to watch, but without Dez to stretch the field it's not going to be any easier.

Super Nomario · Sep 14, 2015

LondonSox said:
This is the big thing for me, if the running game is down, will the play calling shift to a pass heavy approach again (eg this game 45/23 split). If so I think that's a big mistake. The Dallas line is better in run blocking than pass protection, you don't need to let Romo take a lot of extra shots and the best thing for the Dallas D last year was ball control running game. I do think the Cowboys D is a little better than last year, but it doesn't have the depth to be exposed too much.

The Dez injury only makes this worse. If you go pass heavy sans Dez I think that would be a worrying sign. I don't think anyone would argue this Dez injury is a good thing, but it could force them back to the game plan that worked for them last year.

The 45 pass attempts vs 23 rushes is not a number I think the Cowboys can win with long term. In any given game whatever, esp given down and chasing the game late etc.

But the Giants run d is not really any good and 22 carries @ 3.7 yards per is going to be a big stat to watch, but without Dez to stretch the field it's not going to be any easier.

I don't think you can take the final run / pass ratio seriously. Eyeballing it, they passed 16 times and ran just once in the fourth quarter, when they were mostly in catchup mode. They had drives at the end of the first half with six passes and no runs. The running game was disappointing, but it was more game situation than anything that dictated how much they passed.

Bosoxen · Sep 14, 2015

Super Nomario said:
I don't think you can take the final run / pass ratio seriously. Eyeballing it, they passed 16 times and ran just once in the fourth quarter, when they were mostly in catchup mode. They had drives at the end of the first half with six passes and no runs. The running game was disappointing, but it was more game situation than anything that dictated how much they passed.

It's not so much the ratio that's concerning but the 3.7 yards per carry. I felt like they left a ton of yards on the field and Michael Irvin seemed to agree with me when he made a comment on the NFL Network postgame show about meat being left on the bone. Randle is not going to make anyone forget about Murray and they appear to be treating McFadden with kid gloves. Dunbar looked serviceable in his limited playing time but we already knew that's pretty much his ceiling. This committee will likely prove the mantra that anyone can run for 1,000 yards behind that line but there's a world of difference between 1,000 rushing yards and winning the rushing title by a mile. I get the feeling they're really going to regret not snagging one of the many running backs available in the draft.

One can reasonably chalk it up to Week 1 rust but it's definitely something that bears watching. Especially with the Dez injury on top of it. Williams, Beasley and Street are going to have to step up big time. And will someone please hold onto the fucking football?

Oil Can Dan · Sep 14, 2015

That they only averaged 3.7 per rush vs that awful, awful front 7 should be alarming. Next week will show us more about where that running game actually is.

Bosoxen · Sep 14, 2015

Greg29fan said:
The Cowboys didn't play their entire line together once during the preseason, Romo had I think 1-2 drives, one of which was two hand-offs and a dump off to Dunbar, and Dez had nothing (which makes me at least reasonably optimistic they can get through his absence).

I was definitely expecting an offensive struggle based on that and expect them to get much better.

It needs to get better very quickly, though. The Eagles will not be quite as forgiving as the Giants were. A repeat performance of last night will end up with them losing a laugher. As London pointed out, they're going to have to control the clock in order to minimize the amount of time the defense is on the field. The defense is improved but they're now missing three key players, two of which are their best pass rushers. The best medicine for that will be to pound the rock.

LondonSox · Sep 14, 2015

Bosoxen said:
It needs to get better very quickly, though. The Eagles will not be quite as forgiving as the Giants were. A repeat performance of last night will end up with them losing a laugher. As London pointed out, they're going to have to control the clock in order to minimize the amount of time the defense is on the field. The defense is improved but they're now missing three key players, two of which are their best pass rushers. The best medicine for that will be to pound the rock.

Totally. The Eagles front seven is really good. The Cowboys struggled to run on them with Murray and the team and line well established etc. On top of the defensive concerns you'd have to be a bit worried about the risk of Romo taking a lot of hits if they get pass heavy and invite the rush.
There's just WAY too many positives for the Cowboys to be run heavy for me to believe they ditch that, you know you're a Romo hit from disaster, and your biggest investment and asset is your o-line AND it hides your defensive weaknesses.

Of course this was true to a lesser extent pre last year, and they were pass happy. So...

Bosoxen · Sep 14, 2015

LondonSox said:
Totally. The Eagles front seven is really good. The Cowboys struggled to run on them with Murray and the team and line well established etc. On top of the defensive concerns you'd have to be a bit worried about the risk of Romo taking a lot of hits if they get pass heavy and invite the rush.
There's just WAY too many positives for the Cowboys to be run heavy for me to believe they ditch that, you know you're a Romo hit from disaster, and your biggest investment and asset is your o-line AND it hides your defensive weaknesses.

Of course this was true to a lesser extent pre last year, and they were pass happy. So...

Well, now, let's not compare apples and oranges here. Besides the fact that the offensive play calling duties were handled by Bill Callahan in 2013, there was also no Zach Martin and Travis Frederick was a rookie. That team was a completely different animal. Yes, they were pass happy but that tendency isn't really instructive for 2015.

Not that I disagree with your overall point, mind you. I just don't think you should be looking for something that isn't there.

soxfan121 · Sep 14, 2015

https://twitter.com/ChrisGearyOrtho/status/643405544380858368

RedOctober3829 · Sep 14, 2015

Do we know for sure that it is in fact a Jones fracture?

koufax32 · Sep 14, 2015

RedOctober3829 said:
Do we know for sure that it is in fact a Jones fracture?

Are you doubting the wise and powerful DRS?? Heathen

soxfan121 · Sep 14, 2015

RedOctober3829 said:
Do we know for sure that it is in fact a Jones fracture?

I should have posted both of the tweets:

https://twitter.com/ChrisGearyOrtho/status/643388758423928832

soxhop411 · Sep 14, 2015

RedOctober3829 said:
Do we know for sure that it is in fact a Jones fracture?

yes

mike fisher ‏@fishsports 20m20 minutes ago
#Cowboys now confirming @1053thefan report from last night: #dezbryant surgery on broken 5th metatarsal bone in foot.

Bosoxen · Sep 14, 2015

Greg29fan said:
They dominated the clock last night though even with the running game issues (37 mins to 22). The turnovers are definitely the first thing that need to stop. And a lot of those short passes to Dunbar and Randle are just extended handoffs.

Be that as it may, I think we can probably all agree that averaging 3.5 yards per carry on 22 carries isn't going to cut it against a stronger defense. Not if you want to keep Romo upright all season, anyway.

DaveRoberts'Shoes · Sep 14, 2015

RedOctober3829 said:
Do we know for sure that it is in fact a Jones fracture?

*Cough*

Oil Can Dan · Sep 17, 2015

So Cowboy fans, what are you thinking for the big game this weekend? It should be a high scoring game on both sides. Eagles should be able to move the ball vs that depleted and banged up DL, and Tony Romo is an assassin and should carve up that Eagles secondary, even w/o Dez. Of course every time I think I know something the opposite happens so it'll probably be a 6-3 final one way or the other.

Not sure what to think, but I don't think the Vegas line of Eagles -6 makes any sense at all. Except that Cowboy lines are usually tilted towards the opponent as the betting public loves them some Cowboys.

Bosoxen · Sep 17, 2015

Oil Can Dan said:
So Cowboy fans, what are you thinking for the big game this weekend? It should be a high scoring game on both sides. Eagles should be able to move the ball vs that depleted and banged up DL, and Tony Romo is an assassin and should carve up that Eagles secondary, even w/o Dez. Of course every time I think I know something the opposite happens so it'll probably be a 6-3 final one way or the other.

Not sure what to think, but I don't think the Vegas line of Eagles -6 makes any sense at all. Except that Cowboy lines are usually tilted towards the opponent as the betting public loves them some Cowboys.

I think you may be misreading the effects of betting on the line. That line is likely the effect of Dez missing the game, forcing money towards the Eagles. I'm not a betting man, but if I were, that line would force me to take the Cowboys in a cocaine heartbeat. Which is what the odds makers want.

I think Philly wins but that line is pure insanity. Both teams have their fair share of question marks, particularly at wide receiver and defense. I think you're right and, short of a repeat performance of tipped-up interceptions, this should be a pretty high-scoring affair.

johnmd20 · Sep 17, 2015

Exactly, they are begging people to take the Cowboys, which makes the Eagles the good bet here.

Freddy Linn · Sep 20, 2015

Rapoport just on NFL Network with a 10-12 week timetable for Dez.

DaveRoberts'Shoes · Sep 20, 2015

The bone graft doesn't necessarily increase his healing time - could just be used as an adjuvant for normal healing. If it was a stress fracture then it would be longer, but I'm sticking with my 6-8 week estimate

soxhop411 · Sep 20, 2015

Judy Battista ‏@judybattista 54s54 seconds ago
Romo fractured left clavicle.

2015 Cowboys: Romo Nomo

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