2015 Cowboys: Romo Nomo
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How is this possible, they are 5 million over the cap before he even signed and they have little money available to shed. Is Dez gonna take them to the woodshed with 50 million in guaranteed salary down the line? They are setting themselves up for another Romo-like position of negotiation with Dez, which is a big reason they are hamstrung now.Greg29fan said:
IIRC they wee actually $9 million under the cap. They have been serious about making disciplined decisions regarding their cap space the last few off seasons. They also have the ability to rework some contracts to create more cap space if needed.
Hmmm, over the cap has them at about 4 over before Free.EP Sox Fan said:
http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/dallas-cowboys/
Maybe they were 9 under before Dez and Beasley signed?
http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=dallas-cowboys&id=4740825
Here is a blog post discussing the Cowboys cap situation. Post Dez and pre Beasley and Free signings they had a little over $6 million in room. A lot of that was created when they released Henry Melton. They can create more space if they restructure Romo and Tyron Smith's contracts. Romo's cap hit this season is $27 million. They have been trying to avoid restructuring his deal out of concern of dead money at the end of the contract and Romo's back problems. They will likely restructure Tyron Smith's deal to give them more space. I don't see them doing much in free agency except building some depth with bargain signings (e.g. Orakpo on a cheap one year deal like Melton last season). My guess is that they will only sign Murray if the market keeps his price reasonable. A team like Indy is in a position to overpay him and has a definite need. I'm betting tHey will take someone in the draft.
Here is a blog post discussing the Cowboys cap situation. Post Dez and pre Beasley and Free signings they had a little over $6 million in room. A lot of that was created when they released Henry Melton. They can create more space if they restructure Romo and Tyron Smith's contracts. Romo's cap hit this season is $27 million. They have been trying to avoid restructuring his deal out of concern of dead money at the end of the contract and Romo's back problems. They will likely restructure Tyron Smith's deal to give them more space. I don't see them doing much in free agency except building some depth with bargain signings (e.g. Orakpo on a cheap one year deal like Melton last season). My guess is that they will only sign Murray if the market keeps his price reasonable. A team like Indy is in a position to overpay him and has a definite need. I'm betting tHey will take someone in the draft.
Dallas and Tyron Smith did rework his contract to give them some more room under the cap
http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2015/03/09/cowboys-freeing-cap-room-don%E2%80%99t-expect-big-splashes-when-fa-begins?campaign=social_20150310_41803106&adbid=575096083224748032&adbpl=tw&adbpr=8824902
http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2015/03/09/cowboys-freeing-cap-room-don%E2%80%99t-expect-big-splashes-when-fa-begins?campaign=social_20150310_41803106&adbid=575096083224748032&adbpl=tw&adbpr=8824902
@AdamSchefter: Now we know why DeMarco Murray has deleted Cowboys' references on his Twitter account: team has not called him since last week, per source.
They probably couldn't have gone crazy anyways but kudos to the front office for coming up with a plan and numbers and sticking to them.
I'll miss DeMarco. He was a solid citizen, a great player, and had chemistry with the line, but the line is the key and it's all back.
I'll miss DeMarco. He was a solid citizen, a great player, and had chemistry with the line, but the line is the key and it's all back.
Charean Williams @NFLCharean 6m6 minutes ago
Cowboys agree to two-year deal with Darren McFadden pending a physical.
Cowboys agree to two-year deal with Darren McFadden pending a physical.
It's a brave new world when the Cowboys don't do stupid shit with player contracts. Clarence Hill says this is now Stephen's team:
http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys/cowboys-corner-blog/article13819271.html
http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys/cowboys-corner-blog/article13819271.html
Guess we'll see if the other DM has any gas left in the tank at all. I know it's Oakland but his YPC are 3.3, 3.3, and 3.4 the last three seasons. I'm sure somebody else will be coming in the draft.
Will McClay is also having a big hand in running the joint along with Stephen.
Will McClay is also having a big hand in running the joint along with Stephen.
Hate that Murray joins an archrival but it was the right call to make. The Process is a thing and if there were any questions as to who is running this organization, I think this ends it. There are a ton of talented backs available on the cheap in the draft. While I'm not thrilled about McFadden, he's a veteran RB who has been an everydown back (albeit not a successful one) and the guaranteed money is practically nothing. Little risk involved here. There's little doubt that the replacement will be in the draft. Only question is if they pass up Gordon and/or Gurley in the first, draft defense and then roll the dice with one of Langford, Abdullah, Aiayi, Johnson, etc..
Murray was fantastic last season. But that season was an extreme outlier from his career numbers. Given his injury history and fumbling issues, I completely get why the Cowboys did not want to fork over that much money. Especially when the roster is paper thin on the defensive side of the ball.
Murray was fantastic last season. But that season was an extreme outlier from his career numbers. Given his injury history and fumbling issues, I completely get why the Cowboys did not want to fork over that much money. Especially when the roster is paper thin on the defensive side of the ball.
I hate the Murray signing for the Eagles. Well not hate. But dislike and have major concerns. But he is a good fit for the system. I wouldn't be giving that contract to a guy with his history off that workload. He could be the gift that keeps on giving for the Cowboys tbh. That said I thought he would get more and at least the plan is to split carries.
But yeah the Cowboys being apparently smart is a concern. Esp as Kelly is either a genius or a disaster. Not much middle ground now!
But yeah the Cowboys being apparently smart is a concern. Esp as Kelly is either a genius or a disaster. Not much middle ground now!
Report: Cowboys negotiating with free agent Greg Hardy
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/report--cowboys-negotiating-with-free-agent-greg-hardy-194150644.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=tw
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/report--cowboys-negotiating-with-free-agent-greg-hardy-194150644.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=tw
What are cowboys fans thinking about this, clearly was a good player but clearly some baggage.
I mean the case went away as the woman refused to testify (for whatever reason).
I assume happy but you know what they say about assumptions
I mean the case went away as the woman refused to testify (for whatever reason).
I assume happy but you know what they say about assumptions
ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 9s9 seconds ago
It's a one-year deal for Greg Hardy in Dallas, that can be worth up to $13.1 million but that has a minimum base salary.
It's a one-year deal for Greg Hardy in Dallas, that can be worth up to $13.1 million but that has a minimum base salary.
Bosoxen said:
WEEI just said his cap hit this year is going to be like 2.2 million. I think there is a 750k base, a million or so in workout bonuses, and then he gets like 570k/game. I guess it's considered not NLTBE because he only played 4 games last year? Or are game bonuses always NLTBE? So, they are going to be taking like a 9 million dollar hit for next season if he stays healthy. Interesting.
Edit - 745k base, 1.3 in workout bonuses, and 578k/game.
I love this deal, and move for Dallas. I posted in another thread last week that I wouldn't be against the Pats bringing him in on a "show me" type of deal. I had heard 1m base salary in the car earlier, with roster bonuses bringing up to 11m, and then another 2m in potential performance bonuses. No downside to this deal at all, except for the initial PR shit they'll have to deal with, IMO. If he's suspended by Goodell, or fucks up again or plays like shit, see you later. If not, America forgets this shit by week 6, and Dallas just got one of the best pass rushers in the NFL for pennies on the dollar.
Wow, awesome deal. He's gonna be an animal playing for his paycheck every week. Would have loved to see the Patriots sign him to a similar deal, but doesn't look like that one would work under the salary cap (not sure how the NLTBE bonuses work, etc.)
I'm not sorry, but isn't there a line for you guys? Hardy was credibly found guilty in the court of law and got off because he either paid or threatened the victim into silence.
He's the worst of the worst: he leveraged wealth into physical privilege and you're mistfully admiring this signing by the Cowboys? That's fucked.
He's the worst of the worst: he leveraged wealth into physical privilege and you're mistfully admiring this signing by the Cowboys? That's fucked.
Dallas TV sports anchor Dale Hansen certainly thinks the line has been crossed. He lights up the Cowboys, their fans and Jason Garrett on this video:
http://deadspin.com/dallas-sportscaster-blasts-the-cowboys-for-signing-greg-1692314454
As an aside, as one of the token Seahawks fans around here, I'm ecstatic my favorite team didn't sign Hardy. I want no part in trying to rationalize him playing for my favorite squad.
Edit: grammatical.
http://deadspin.com/dallas-sportscaster-blasts-the-cowboys-for-signing-greg-1692314454
As an aside, as one of the token Seahawks fans around here, I'm ecstatic my favorite team didn't sign Hardy. I want no part in trying to rationalize him playing for my favorite squad.
Edit: grammatical.
Suh is dirty but being a dirty/ over the edge player on the field is not in the same league as Hardy for me. He's also fantastic and played last season. I'm assuming this means you're down and you don't really care about the person just the football player.Bosoxen said:
But I don't think paying Suh and paying Hardy are the same.
It's kind of an interesting question. I sort of assume Ray Rice is done. Peterson will likely play somewhere, but cheaply (relatively). Suh not only is fine but is becoming the best paid tackle around. Incognito is back. Hernandez yeah that's the extreme I guess where the law makes team's opinions irrelevant.
What is the line for you? Actually this is maybe an interesting thread, it's not really Dallas specific.
ThePrideofShiner said:
Dale Hansen is the Dallas version of Dan Shaughnessy. Anything he says really should be taken with a grain of salt. Not necessarily saying he's wrong that there might be something inherently wrong with this deal, but I do believe in second chances. Someone would have signed him and given him a chance to make good. I don't have a problem with that someone being the Cowboys.
LondonSox said:
I agree that Suh and Hardy are different cases. I was merely using Suh as the example of me not really judging the player - coincidentally, I was completely against the Terrell Owens signing, but for obviously different reasons. I do care about the player, insofar as he shows geniune remorse for his mistakes and takes steps to correct them. If he continues to do the same stupid shit, however - ala Adam Jones - then my feelings will change.
pappymojo said:
I have a feeling they'd make it work somehow, were Peterson to become available.
I have to disagree with the pennies on the dollar aspect. Should he avoid suspension and play at an elite level, he'd be getting 13 million, which would make him the second highest paid DE in the league behind Watt. Seems fair value. Jones is spending beyond his means to win now again, which he is wont to do. With Romo getting old and broken, now may be a worthy time, but it's going to hurt next year.Deathofthebambino said:
Ed Hillel said:
Au contraire, this signing has Stephen written all over it. Jerry would have guaranteed at least $5 million of that contract to make sure he never left town to meet with Seattle. The fact that it's so heavy in incentives is yet another data point which supports the notion that Stephen is now running the show.
Also, maybe you've forgotten what it's like to go more than five years without even catching a whiff a Super Bowl. This team is really close and they should absofuckinglutely pay a little more at a premium position to ensure that the defense can hold its own in January. Marinelli's defense is about disruption and turnovers. Last season, they created 18 interceptions with what can be most politely regarded as a shitty pass rush. Imagine how much more they could do with a guy that can create double digit sacks.I don't think I'm going very far out on a limb when I see that having a guy like Greg Hardy would have allowed the Cowboys to pound a hobbled Aaron Rodgers into submission and beat Green Bay.
I think he played 1 game last year right? So 1 game bonus is LTBE, and 578k goes on this year's cap as a hit. The rest of the game incentive is NLTBE. So if he gets a five game suspension and plays 11 games, the Cowboy's adjusted cap number (not counting any other earned NLTBE net of unearned LTBE) would go down $5,780,000.Ed Hillel said:
I think the workout bonus all should be LTBE and on this year's cap but I'm not sure.
Bosoxen said:
Greg29fan said:
http://insidethepylon.com/nfl/long-form-editorial/opinion-long-form-editorial/2015/03/30/cheering-greg-hardy-a-dallas-dilemma/
Sorry, Luis.
Shitheel, huh? Did you pull rank to have the censors leave that in?
It's an uncomfortable situation, that's for sure. But the moral high ground is already packed with Pats fans, so the rest of us plebes have to content ourselves with plugging our noses while our teams do whatever it takes to win. The laundry can be a powerful thing - but you can bet your ass I wouldn't even consider for a second buying that jersey.
Hardy isn't the first Cowboys player I don't like, and he certainly won't be the last.
It's an uncomfortable situation, that's for sure. But the moral high ground is already packed with Pats fans, so the rest of us plebes have to content ourselves with plugging our noses while our teams do whatever it takes to win. The laundry can be a powerful thing - but you can bet your ass I wouldn't even consider for a second buying that jersey.
Hardy isn't the first Cowboys player I don't like, and he certainly won't be the last.
Nah, authors get no input into whether something like "capricious shitheel" makes it to publication.
We did have an argument about the last line, especially after the Dallas Mayor claimed one of the spots. But I successfully argued that only Luis would be conflicted, so "both" was accurate. ;-)
DotB isn't a Cowboys fan, but I imagine his opinion is representative of the fanbase, with a smattering of Greg29 thrown in.
Uncomfortable, for sure. But I've high-fived over a murderer catching a touchdown, so no moral high ground here. Just another fan unsure of whether I like this sport any more or not. ;-)
We did have an argument about the last line, especially after the Dallas Mayor claimed one of the spots. But I successfully argued that only Luis would be conflicted, so "both" was accurate. ;-)
DotB isn't a Cowboys fan, but I imagine his opinion is representative of the fanbase, with a smattering of Greg29 thrown in.
Uncomfortable, for sure. But I've high-fived over a murderer catching a touchdown, so no moral high ground here. Just another fan unsure of whether I like this sport any more or not. ;-)
