2015 coaching carousel

[Gunfighter 09]

 
Josina Anderson ‏@JosinaAnderson  2m2 minutes ago
Source: The #Raiders have requested permission to interview Colts offensive coordinator Pep Hamilton.
 

 
 
Raiders interviews: 
 
Bowles
Pep
Mangenius
Pat Shurmur
Tony Sparano (interim HC)
 
Most observers feel like a Del Rio interview is built in, considering his East Bay ties, long conversations before both Denver games with Marc Davis and the fact that his parents are long time Raiders season ticket holders. 

 

[RedOctober3829]

Sources familiar with the situation have informed the National Football Post that the Miami Dolphins offered Ryan a multi-year contract this week worth approximately $8 million to become the team’s next defensive coordinator.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Sources-Dolphins-offered-Rex-Ryan-defensive-coordinator-position.html

 

[Silverdude2167]

Sources familiar with the situation have informed the National Football Post that the Miami Dolphins offered Ryan a multi-year contract this week worth approximately $8 million to become the team’s next defensive coordinator.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Sources-Dolphins-offered-Rex-Ryan-defensive-coordinator-position.html

This seems like a smart move, but what happens if the dolphins start out slow and you have Rex sitting behind Philbin.

 

[bosockboy]

Yeah if they want Ryan that bad just shitcan Philbin.

 

[( . ) ( . ) and (_!_)]

 
Sorry for the news GF. I really do think Oakland is one of the better open posts this year. An improving defense, a very solid, young, (and more importantly) dedicated QB in Carr, 
 
Get better skill players around Carr and the offense can put up enough points to compete. Raiders are about 2-3 years away still, but the passionate fans may get to see a PO team sooner than later. 

A lot obviously depends on Carr and what is his ceiling but the early returns are positive. I'd also add that a 2-3 year window lines up well with the end of Manning and Rivers likely well into his decline phase (especially since there are already mummers about him needing back surgery). KC is likely at the end if not near the end of the Alex smith era by then. A lot could change, ala Manning parachuting into Denver 2 years ago, but the youth of that team an timing in the division really make that job attractive.

 

[Corsi]

Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl  43s44 seconds ago
#Redskins announced: DC Jim Haslett and team mutually agreed to parts.

 

[dcmissle]

A victim of poor personnel, but after 5 years of mediocre to poor performance, not unexpected or unwarranted.
 
I will be a bit surprised if Danny doesn't jump into the Rex sweepstakes.  Just because ... this teams wins the offseason headlines like no other.

 

[RedOctober3829]

Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN  47s
47 seconds ago
Vikings assistant GM George Paton has declined the Jets request to interview for their GM opening, per source
 

 

[Silverdude2167]

 

Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN  47s
47 seconds ago
Vikings assistant GM George Paton has declined the Jets request to interview for their GM opening, per source
 

How often do GM interviews get turned down? I can understand the Baltimore guy doing due to his unique situation, but others? That seems like an massive indictment of Woody.

 

[67YAZ]

Bears interviewing Gasse and Quinn this week, request permission to talk to Bowles next week.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-bears-coaching-gm-search-20141231-story.html

An interesting move, interviewing GMs and coaches at the same time. But they'll need to move fast to get their guys.

If Gasse gets the job, it will be fascinating to watch him field the question, "how would you compare working with Peyton Manning to working with Jay Cutler?"

 

[wade boggs chicken dinner]

 
Sorry for the news GF. I really do think Oakland is one of the better open posts this year. An improving defense, a very solid, young, (and more importantly) dedicated QB in Carr, 
 
Get better skill players around Carr and the offense can put up enough points to compete. Raiders are about 2-3 years away still, but the passionate fans may get to see a PO team sooner than later. 

 
And most importantly, a ton of cap space.  Seems like a better job than the Jets (bad owner), the Falcons (not a lot of talent on the roster; doesn't appear to be much cap flexibility at this point); and Chicago.

 

[67YAZ]

 
And most importantly, a ton of cap space.  Seems like a better job than the Jets (bad owner), the Falcons (not a lot of talent on the roster; doesn't appear to be much cap flexibility at this point); and Chicago.

Except for all the uncertainty about where they'll play - Oakland, LA, elsewhere?

 

[Gunfighter 09]

Sources familiar with the situation have informed the National Football Post that the Miami Dolphins offered Ryan a multi-year contract this week worth approximately $8 million to become the team’s next defensive coordinator.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Sources-Dolphins-offered-Rex-Ryan-defensive-coordinator-position.html

 
This is the smartest thing I have heard yet. I like what the Phins are doing this offseason so far. 
 

 
And most importantly, a ton of cap space.  Seems like a better job than the Jets (bad owner), the Falcons (not a lot of talent on the roster; doesn't appear to be much cap flexibility at this point); and Chicago.

 
 

A lot obviously depends on Carr and what is his ceiling but the early returns are positive. I'd also add that a 2-3 year window lines up well with the end of Manning and Rivers likely well into his decline phase (especially since there are already mummers about him needing back surgery). KC is likely at the end if not near the end of the Alex smith era by then. A lot could change, ala Manning parachuting into Denver 2 years ago, but the youth of that team an timing in the division really make that job attractive.

 
There are certainly things to like. A good group of young players from the last two drafts including a potential franchise QB and an elite pass rusher. $70-75M in cap space with almost $100M of free space in 2016 and all of your draft picks into the future, including the #4 pick this year. The biggest challenge is that the owner has no cash and any new coach has to tell his family that they will likely only be living in Oakland for the next year before they move to LA. The best thing the Raiders have going is that Marc Davis seems to realize that he has to increase the value of the franchise through a coaching or elite player higher to make the move to LA (or sale??) happen. 
 
 

Bears interviewing Gasse and Quinn this week, request permission to talk to Bowles next week.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-bears-coaching-gm-search-20141231-story.html

An interesting move, interviewing GMs and coaches at the same time. But they'll need to move fast to get their guys.

If Gasse gets the job, it will be fascinating to watch him field the question, "how would you compare working with Peyton Manning to working with Jay Cutler?"

 
Doesn't Shanahan (with Haslett, and I assume his son) just make too much sense here? They really can't get rid of Cutler and Shanahan is the last coach that would really be excited to have him and Marshall. 

 

[( . ) ( . ) and (_!_)]

Except for all the uncertainty about where they'll play - Oakland, LA, elsewhere?

 
I don't think that will be a big obstacle for most coaches.  Coaching football seems like a pretty transient life as you work your way up from job-to-job, college town-to-town, NFL city-to-city.  These guys move around a lot, sometimes to not so glamorous places.  It's fair to say that some older coaches may reasonably want some stability in their life.  Cowher is a great example of this, but he also has a pretty accomplished resume.  I would expect that many younger, up and coming coaches trying to get one of only 32 head coaching jobs in the NFL see potentially having to move cities again after a year or two as just another cost of being in the business.  

 

[67YAZ]

 
 
Doesn't Shanahan (with Haslett, and I assume his son) just make too much sense here? They really can't get rid of Cutler and Shanahan is the last coach that would really be excited to have him and Marshall. 

Under President Ted Phillips, the Bears have only hired first time head coaches with low key public personas. They seem to be hewing close to that again.

 

[jsinger121]

 
I don't think that will be a big obstacle for most coaches.  Coaching football seems like a pretty transient life as you work your way up from job-to-job, college town-to-town, NFL city-to-city.  These guys move around a lot, sometimes to not so glamorous places.  It's fair to say that some older coaches may reasonably want some stability in their life.  Cowher is a great example of this, but he also has a pretty accomplished resume.  I would expect that many younger, up and coming coaches trying to get one of only 32 head coaching jobs in the NFL see potentially having to move cities again after a year or two as just another cost of being in the business.  

I think the stadium situation is a huge part of this. They play in the worst facility in the league by far. That is tough is draw free agents to ubless they vastly overpay. I can see this being a reason tip coaches staying away.

 

[67YAZ]

 
I don't think that will be a big obstacle for most coaches.  Coaching football seems like a pretty transient life as you work your way up from job-to-job, college town-to-town, NFL city-to-city.  These guys move around a lot, sometimes to not so glamorous places.  It's fair to say that some older coaches may reasonably want some stability in their life.  Cowher is a great example of this, but he also has a pretty accomplished resume.  I would expect that many younger, up and coming coaches trying to get one of only 32 head coaching jobs in the NFL see potentially having to move cities again after a year or two as just another cost of being in the business.  

But it's not just the coach moving. The HC is going to supervise the relocation of all the staff and players plus participate in the the overall organizational relocation planning. It will be a lot of extra work on top of the standard expectations.

 

[( . ) ( . ) and (_!_)]

But it's not just the coach moving. The HC is going to supervise the relocation of all the staff and players plus participate in the the overall organizational relocation planning. It will be a lot of extra work on top of the standard expectations.

 
I hear what you are saying and maybe I'm exerting sometype of personal bias here, but the way I see it is that there are only 32 of these jobs in the world (Really 31 because BB is NEVER leaving).  Being the "hot" coordinator has a shelf life and is likely driven by somethings outside of your control.  Take Todd Bowles.  He is 50 something and a hot coaching candidate right now.  Did he suddenly become a better coach in this 50s or has he hit some perfect storm of working for the right head coach, with the right set of defensive players that has pushed him to the front of the pack?  If he passes a job this year and AZ crashes back to earth next season, will he still be at the top of the list?
 
Yes, the Raiders job may have some unique challenges if they relocate, but it's supply and demand and the supply of these jobs is not large.  

 

[dcmissle]

Under President Ted Phillips, the Bears have only hired first time head coaches with low key public personas. They seem to be hewing close to that again.

I think Gunfighter's Chicago speculation may be right on the money. When the announcement was made today that Haslett was leaving, the parting was spun as a "mutual decision." Like Harbaugh.

Now this could be the Redskins being classy. But a couple of days ago, Gruden said he would recommend that Haslett be retained and he seemed prepared to fight for him.

It's quite possible that Haslett said, thanks but I have another gig; don't fight for me here.

 

[Super Nomario]

But it's not just the coach moving. The HC is going to supervise the relocation of all the staff and players plus participate in the the overall organizational relocation planning. It will be a lot of extra work on top of the standard expectations.

Not only that, but also the lame duck situation that might exist. How invested are Raiders fans going to be if it leaks that the team is moving? What is that transition period going to be like? Belichick has always cited the specter of the move to Baltimore as a major factor in the Browns' underperformance in his final season.
 

 
I hear what you are saying and maybe I'm exerting sometype of personal bias here, but the way I see it is that there are only 32 of these jobs in the world (Really 31 because BB is NEVER leaving).  Being the "hot" coordinator has a shelf life and is likely driven by somethings outside of your control.  Take Todd Bowles.  He is 50 something and a hot coaching candidate right now.  Did he suddenly become a better coach in this 50s or has he hit some perfect storm of working for the right head coach, with the right set of defensive players that has pushed him to the front of the pack?  If he passes a job this year and AZ crashes back to earth next season, will he still be at the top of the list?
 
Yes, the Raiders job may have some unique challenges if they relocate, but it's supply and demand and the supply of these jobs is not large.  

Yes, they'll have no trouble finding someone to take the job. But there's enough uncertainty that they may have trouble coaxing a candidate with other options.

 

[amfox1]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter  2m2 minutes ago
Doug Marrone has opted out of his contract as the Buffalo Bills coach and is now a free agent to pursue other jobs, per @mortreport and me.

 

[soxhop411]

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Doug Marrone has opted out of his contract as the Buffalo Bills coach and is now a free agent to pursue other jobs, per @mortreport and me.

That's a shock.

 

[soxhop411]

He must have another job locked down. Otherwise why leave?

 

[Sox and Rocks]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter  2m2 minutes ago
Doug Marrone has opted out of his contract as the Buffalo Bills coach and is now a free agent to pursue other jobs, per @mortreport and me.

Makes sense given what the bills did this year. He would be a good fit in Oakland

 

[soxhop411]

Schefter says jets are favorites.

 

[dcmissle]

Why would you leave Buffalo for NYJs?

 

[Al Zarilla]

Why would you leave Buffalo for NYJs?

Because nobody cares about Buffalo?

 

[amarshal2]

Never been to Buffalo, I take it?

Good point. On the other hand right before this he was down the road in Syracuse. More likely this has something to do with new ownership.

 

[RedOctober3829]

@JasonLaCanfora: Bill Polian will be taking over as Bills team president/football czar but move may not be announced til late Jan, due to his commitments

 

[soxfan121]

Seems like Marrone was told he could opt out now or be fired when Polian officially takes charge. 

 

[Greg29fan]

Seems like Marrone was told he could opt out now or be fired when Polian officially takes charge. 

 
There was a clause in his contract that gave him a three or four day window to opt out if there was an ownership change and I guess he took it.

 

[E5 Yaz]

@JasonLaCanfora: Bill Polian will be taking over as Bills team president/football czar but move may not be announced til late Jan, due to his commitments

 
Which makes the "mutual" part of the Marrone decision make sense. Polian comes in and can hire his own coach, without having to fire a guy who had a winning record

 

[bosockboy]

Why do the Jets want him? What about Marrone is impressive? Baffling that he could go 500 in two years with the Bills and somehow get a big raise and better gig out of it. Then again, he hardly worked wonders in Syracuse.

They went 9-7 with a terrible QB situation. Marrone is viewed as very impressive as far as I can tell.

 

[dcmissle]

Never been to Buffalo, I take it?

My views are colored by having a spectacular girl friend who lived around there when I was at school in upstate NY. A Wonder Woman in every way, mature beyond her years and mine too. I was just short of intimidated at the age of 25 -- and appropriately so.

 

[dcmissle]

dup -- but I am that emphatic about it, more than a few years later.

 

[jsinger121]

They went 9-7 with a terrible QB situation. Marrone is viewed as very impressive as far as I can tell.

They went 9-7 due to a top 5 defense and some solid skill position players. I don't see him as an top coach and would welcome him as the coach of the Jets as he is pretty average in my view.

 

[dcmissle]

Thanks for the Polian angle. I had forgotten about that. Which explains everything.

Still you do not have a mutual parting unless Marrone has someplace to go. Otherwise, you let Polian Fire you and get paid.

 

[Ed Hillel]

The Bills are getting Jets'd. Imagine if they hire Rex now.

 

[Ed Hillel]

Also, fuck Bill Polian.

 

[dcmissle]

Also, fuck Bill Polian.

He had some very complimentary words for BB while at ESPN. So I can go back to hating him again?

So it's full circle for him. Buffalo/Carolina/ Indy/ Buffalo.
Will be very interested to watch him try to get a QB?

 

[radsoxfan]

Is it possible the below quote is correct? What a great agent he has if that's true.
 
If so, I can see Marrone wanting to move on.  Not that his stock is sky high right now, but I can't imagine it will be better after Orton retires and Manuel/rookie QB/journeyman vet QB is in charge next season.  If he turns his current situation into 4 million bucks plus a multiyear deal, that's a giant win for him.
 
Worst case scenario he gets paid for doing nothing this year I guess. 
 

 
 
Marrone's clause also allows him to walk away with his 2015 guaranteed base salary of $4 million without it counting as an offset against any future salary even if he should land another job, sources said.

 
 
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12104824/doug-marrone-opts-contract-buffalo-bills

 

[bosockboy]

Incredible deal. He gets a freebie salary next year and likely has a new gig in sight.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

If Marrone is hired in the next 48 hours by the Jets they're probably facing some serious tampering charges. Between him and Revis, Woody is pretty much giving the finger to Goodell here.

 

[j-man]

I mean, the Broncos DC is Jack del Rio who is about as accomplished as Rex. It's not like he's some nobody who doesn't know anything. And Rex wouldn't be bringing Sheldon Richardson and Mo Wilkerson with him. 

brady is like 8-0 aga Del rio Def  with a passer rating of 123 i think  

 

[j-man]

 
 
Since we are posting in here and the Michigan thread, yes this is the worst day in Raiders franchise history. Marc Davis offered more money than he can afford and total control of the franchise to Jim Harbaugh and he chose to go to a college program that is in no way guaranteed to succeed. If he had taken the Raiders offer Harbaugh would have been the highest paid coach in NFL history and had little in terms of pressure to deal with. An 8-8 season would be more than acceptable for the next couple of years in Oakland. And still he said no. So, Reggie McKenzie is still operating as the GM, and leading a coaching search, knowing that his boss just offered to fire him in order to get a new coach, and Tony Sparano is turning the season ending press conference into a referendum on why he should be head coach after going 3-9....
 
 
These are dark times in Alameda. The Raiders should offer Rex a big money deal, and should certainly call David Shaw, but I am worried that the best case is getting someone like Jack Del Rio or Pat Shurmur. 
They offered Jim Harbaugh $9M+ and he said no.... incredible. 

+1 who can oakland hire  they only have 2 solid players  and plob  only 8-10 players above ave    oakland needs a new  place to play   first

 

[quint]

If Marrone is hired in the next 48 hours by the Jets they're probably facing some serious tampering charges.

Mmm, no. No they wouldn't.

 

[Sox and Rocks]

+1 who can oakland hire  they only have 2 solid players  and plob  only 8-10 players above ave    oakland needs a new  place to play   first

Who are the 2 solid players?

They don't have a ton of talent, obviously, but with Carr, Mack, Murray, Hayden, Carrie, and Ellis they have young talent at the most important positions, some solid role players (tuck, Reece, branch, Moore, jones), 75 million in cap room, and some top draft picks. They can be good in a hurry, especially given the age of manning and rivers.

If they bring in a solid coach, have another good draft, and spend well in free agency, they will be well positioned

 

[RedOctober3829]

@BrianCoz: Doug Marrone also has interviews lined up with the Falcons and Bears, according to a league source #nyj

 

[jsinger121]

@BrianCoz: Doug Marrone also has interviews lined up with the Falcons and Bears, according to a league source #nyj

Atlanta just fired a Doug Marrone type in Mike Smith. Not sure why they are wasting their time with another soft coach.

 

[soxhop411]

“@AlbertBreer: Doug Marrone informed Bills players last night of his decision -- after news broke -- via a mass text. Said to call if they needed anything.”