2013 PGA Tour
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While I agree that the Stricker and Furyk's pick sucked, IIRC Mahan had a terrible second half.
So the PGA announced today that they opposed the anchoring ban set forth by the R&A and the USGA. It will be interesting how the USGA responds to this. I think the USGA hedged their bets by "proposing" the rule change and will slowly let the issue die w/o actually implementing a real change.
The Tim Finchem, as usual, handled it brilliantly:
The Tim Finchem, as usual, handled it brilliantly:
Zomp said:
For team matches, match play is awesome because you have 24 golfers on the course, which is why it's great for the President's Cup and the Ryder Cup. But in a tourney, it's great early on and then boring on the last day because it's only two guys and how fired up can you get for just two guys?
Poulter has spent the morning bitching and moaning about having to play the consolation match. He is so insufferable. I can't tell if he is joking or not, but saying Day may pull out of the Honda because he's too tired from the last 18 they had to play.
Poulter today said he was being sarcastic.
He's an odd character. I go through spurts where I really dislike him, but then sometimes I don't mind him.
He's an odd character. I go through spurts where I really dislike him, but then sometimes I don't mind him.
I can't stand him. He can always find something to complain about.
That and he is indestructible in the Ryder Cup.
That and he is indestructible in the Ryder Cup.
I actually like Poulter's honesty on Twitter. Yeah, he can be a douche more often than not but at least he's putting himself out there and voicing some opinions. I like that better than the Tiger Woods robot act or Phil Mickelson's fake good guy act. Poulter is a beeeyatch, though. He does whine a lot.
cshea said:
To Zomp's point, he may have been "sarcastic" if you stretch the definition of the word, but there's no way he was joking.
The last two days of that tournament were a tremendous grind for these guys - playing 36 holes of match play for two days in a row in very tough conditions is mentally exhausting. And I get why he would have been demotivated for the consolation match - the money involved is considerable, but he's already guaranteed a significant payday and the sting of losing in the semis was still fresh enough that he found himself asking "WTF am I doing freezing to death out here in a match no one cares about?"
So he made the comments and then as soon as he realized how they came off he tried to soften them. Not surprising in the least.
Would not surprise me if one or both of them or either of the finalists skip the Honda.
I like Poulter. The guy brings a flare to golf and is honest and entertaining. I don't like my golfers fake and boring like Mickelson.
FL4WL3SS said:
I used to dislike him because I didn't know him. More specifically, the only impression I had of him was related to his sartorial elegance, which made me think he was just a typical fake, boring golfer ... like Mickelson.
As he's matured and his talent and drive are now front and center, I like him a lot. The PGA needs more players who are ferocious competitors.
johnmd20 said:
Minor point: Tiger has a robot act AND a fake good guy act. He's a fake good guy robot.
I agree that the final day of a match play event can be a bit boring to casual viewers, whom the sport seems to be coveting so I worry that they'll make changes. My biggest worry is that they change it up to start on Friday play 36, then 18 on Saturday and Sunday with the top seeds (maybe even top 8) earning a bye in hopes of better assuring the superstars "make it" to the weekend
McIlroy six over par after seven holes this morning and is six over for the tourney. Projected cut is even par at the moment. Kid isn't playing much competitive golf this season.
He just put his second shot on 18 into the drink. Yikes.
He'll be fine though. He just hasn't played much yet and is still tinkering and getting used to the Nike's.
Edit: And he withdrew.
He'll be fine though. He just hasn't played much yet and is still tinkering and getting used to the Nike's.
Edit: And he withdrew.
That sounds like he injured something. You just don't walk off the course in the middle of a round just because you are playing shitty.
Nah, he's just playing shitty. He'll be back next week.
Edit: Atleast I don't think it is anything serious. Probably some sort of muscle pull and he didn't feel like risking further injury while shooting an 85.
Edit: Atleast I don't think it is anything serious. Probably some sort of muscle pull and he didn't feel like risking further injury while shooting an 85.
McIlroy's swing is a mess right now. He's got this weird loopy thing going on and is getting stuck inside and the ball is going left and right. He'll figure it out, but he needs to get his shit together and stop playing tennis.
In his presser before the WGC last week, he was asked about tennis and said that he actually plays less since he started dating Maria...FL4WL3SS said:
Unless of course you mean "playing tennis" the way some might say Dustin Johnson needs to stop "playing hockey" to get his game back then yeah, he needs to stop playing tennis... but tennis with her would be tough to pass up
And the spin begins. Rory outright says no to any physical ailment. PGA media folks say otherwise:
@PGATOURmedia: @McIlroyRory withdraws from @TheHondaClassic with severe wisdom tooth pain affecting concentration. #PGATOUR
@PGATOURmedia: @McIlroyRory withdraws from @TheHondaClassic with severe wisdom tooth pain affecting concentration. #PGATOUR
Tiger would've gotten absolutely killed if he picked up his ball and WD due to nothing more than a shitty round.
I had the same thought...cshea said:
Didn't he abruptly withdraw fairly recently during a poor round and get a ton of heat?
edit: it was the cadillac @ Doral last year with his achilles.
steveluck7 said:
Yes, last March. That's what my quote above refers to. Some people here accused him of faking an injury and compared him to John Daly.
Rory is sticking to the sore tooth angle.
Meh, whatever. He wasn't making the cut and wasn't going to get on TV today so the networks/sponsors didn't lose much.
Meh, whatever. He wasn't making the cut and wasn't going to get on TV today so the networks/sponsors didn't lose much.
The Four Peters said:
It was actually less than a year, not over a year. And what's not cool about it? When is the appropriate time to ask whether people's standards are the same for all golfers?
People absolutely slammed Woods when he pulled out of a tournament because he was injured with his ball sitting 300+ yards down the fairway of the 12th hole of the final round when he was -6. I think when the World #1 pulls out after plopping one in the water in Round 2 sitting at +7 is a pretty good time to do it. If this applies to Tiger:
Then I'd like to talk about whether it applies to Rory. That's what this thread is for -- to discuss the PGA Tour.
Then talk about Rory. Everyone is talking about Rory, it's a more than worthy discussion point. You can even do it in the context of the reaction to Tiger pulling out last year. But stop playing "gotcha" and bringing up old arguments for the 50th time by taking people's old quotes and editing them in a clear attempt to antagonize. Stop calling people douchebags. Stop trying to gloat and always make sure everyone knows exactly the times when you're right, even if most of us ignore the many times you are wrong since trying to have a normal conversation with you can be futile.
We're all golf fans, or we wouldn't be in here. Discussing golf should be fun, not a chore of a debate all the time.
We're all golf fans, or we wouldn't be in here. Discussing golf should be fun, not a chore of a debate all the time.
The Four Peters said:
Thanks for your direction, but one of the things I like to talk about is how the hatred of Tiger Woods by some--based on many things, ranging from the fact that he *gasp* had extramarital affairs, to the fact that he doesn't give warm and cuddly interviews, or even to his racial outsider status in a still very-white sport--causes them to make wild statements, accusations, analyses and predictions, that to my eyes don't comport with reality, and don't apply to other athletes. I like debate, as well as golf, sorry. I want to do both sometimes. You're welcome to block me.
As for calling people douchebags, point me to another instance where I've done it, if you like. When your BFF comes in and responds to a post having nothing to do with him with nothing but a sarcastic ad hominem, I think an accurate ad hominem response is fairly appropriate.
To the bolded, how about you do that, just once? Editing an old johnmd20 post isn't exactly advancing a healthy debate around Tiger's place in the sport of golf and its surrounding cultural context. I've yet to see you once discuss the things you just laid out here, to me it seems you're more focused on making sure you call out everyone who was mean to Tiger in the past. Hell, I think that'd be a fascinating discussion point with how it gets manifested in people's criticism of Tiger. Cshea right before you said that Tiger would have gotten blasted if he did what Rory did (and I agree with him). Unfortunately, I also think you're pretty incapable of leading this discussion/debate with antogonizing everyone else who tries to participate, but I would love to be proven wrong and would admit if and when I am.WayBackVazquez said:
And I told both of you to knock it off earlier, not just you. I've ignored a shit ton of your sarcastic comments over the past week or two directed my way (including another snarky BFF reference above), it's possible for you to do the same just once. And it wasn't an ad-hominem either. It was sarcastic, and if you're really sensitive I guess you could construe it as an "attack", but it was making a very specific point. Your response wasn't an ad-hominem either, but that's also beside the point.
And I'm welcome to do a lot more than block you, however I'm just trying to give constructive feedback for the betterment of the threads and the forum. The fact that you responded dismissively, argumentatively, and snarkily shows that it's likely a futile effort, proving my entire point in the first place. Back to your regularly schedule Rory discussion.
How far off the planet has Paul Casey fallen, good lord. He's +15 and in last place. I have no idea why Nike is still sponsering this guy and featuring him in commercials. I mean, christ, David Duval finished ahead of him this tournament.
The Four Peters said:
Oh, okay. I'm the snarky one, but you're going to attempt to correct me about what ad hominem means while acknowledging that it's beside the point? Do you derive your superior knowledge about this vocabulary word from your title as spelling bee champ or your position as the coach of the debate team?
And what were the shit ton of sarcastic comments directed your way? How about pointing me to even a quarter ton of them?
I have to agree with Wayback on the Tiger-Rory comparison. What Rory did today is pretty irresponsible by tour standards. If I paid $40 as a golf fan to follow the world's No. 1 player around today, it would be a little disappointing to see him quit like that. Doesn't he have an obligation to the fans?
The kid has a ton of talent but the wide ranges in his scoring from week to week are a bit disconcerting, and I'm talking about 2012 when he missed three cuts -- Players, Memorial and US Open -- in four weeks. Not to mention what he's up to this year due to change of equipment, along with the burdens of being No. 1.
Nobody is more pure when his swing is in sync. But when it's out, Rory really falls off the cliff compared to other elite (top five players). Today's tantrum sort of raises the question of his mental toughness.
The kid has a ton of talent but the wide ranges in his scoring from week to week are a bit disconcerting, and I'm talking about 2012 when he missed three cuts -- Players, Memorial and US Open -- in four weeks. Not to mention what he's up to this year due to change of equipment, along with the burdens of being No. 1.
Nobody is more pure when his swing is in sync. But when it's out, Rory really falls off the cliff compared to other elite (top five players). Today's tantrum sort of raises the question of his mental toughness.
Rory is a bitch for quitting, too, WBV. Totally classless move. So was Tiger last year when he did it a couple of times. You have won the internet, congratulations, this is clearly a very big day and moment for you and I'm going to step back now and let you have it.
Cut line currently at even par. Tiger, who is even, in bunker at 17, needing an up-and-down to stay alive.
udpate: hits it to 18 inches. par coming.
udpate: hits it to 18 inches. par coming.
Phil pulled the same crap last year with his "mental fatigue" despite the fact he was on vacation in Europe for 2 weeks before the tournament. Of course he got a pass because hes Phil.
