lostjumper said:
Ed Hillel said:
Don't hurt'em hammer.phragle said:
RedOctober3829 said:
Why? Who's paying a first plus for one year of Revis off a torn ACL? Adding Mallett in, considering he's a great chip towards teams that suck and have great picks, makes it even worse. I'd probably be willing to give up this year's first rounder, but that's about it. And the Jets won't take that, anyway, because it's the Patriots.RedOctober3829 said:
soxhop411 said:
Judging by the interest a day after this was leaked, I'd say there's a ton of interest in Revis which will only up the price. Multiple people think Revis will command a #1 even coming off an ACL surgery. Hell, coming back from a torn ACL is so routine these days I wouldn't think twice about offering up a price equal to if he was healthy. Look at Adrian Peterson if you want to see how someone can come off that injury. Judging the Patriots' needs and the prediction that this year's free agency won't be a big bidding war meaning you can get good value for guys that will give you good production, trading for Revis would be a no-brainer from a Patriots perspective.Ed Hillel said:
Again, everything you're willing to pay outside of the money is for one year of his services. He's going to his FA anyway, so he'll be open to the Pats again at that point, though he'll probably get more than the Pats would offer anyway (~15 million if he comes back strong). You want to give up Mallett and two firsts for one year of Revis? The secondary is actually in better position now than it has been in years. While there's a lot to be desired, you finally have two guys in McCourty and Dennard that take up two of the four starting positions, and likely will for years to come. You can probably find a guy like Talib or Grimes to give you 80+% of Revis' production for half the monetary cost, and without having to give up valuable players and draft picks. Hell, you could probably get a combination of one of Byrd/Goldson and/or Talib/Grimes for significantly less than what Revis alone would get, particularly in guaranteed money. Again, that's without giving up Mallett or any picks. That seems like the far more desirable course.RedOctober3829 said:
Like I said up thread, you dont think if that is his demands, that that would cause teams to want to give up LESS to get him because if it will costs mulltiple high picks + that high contract which would tie up that team cap wise for the near future (and would prevent them from signing other players)?SeoulSoxFan said:
Shelterdog said:
Morning Woodhead said:
But, see, this is exactly why insiders and fans shouldn't love the guy. Sure, he finds room for big name players but that doesn't mean having those players guarantee a SB win. The Jets have found out the hard way that pushing huge guarantees into the future while not winning now is a recipe for disaster. Now, they are cap tied to players, outside of Revis, that will likely not do anything to help them win now or in the future. I can't see why people love that about Tanny.Shelterdog said:
Dogman2 said:
I don't think football insiders are stupid (I'm talking front office personnel, GM's, etc. and not fans in this particular case. Yes, fans are dumb). Let's set aside Woody pulling the strings to sell the luxury boxes for a second and look at this from a GM evaluation perspective. Tanny's big name moves didn't propel the Jets to win anything so his talent evaluations need be taken into consideration here. Because of that, I don't understand the love for the guy inside the league.Shelterdog said:
steveluck7 said:
Perhaps I misunderstood you. I thought you were saying true insiders, in addition to fans, love the guy. I'd agree with the skepticism surrounding Tannenbaum. There really is quite a bit of evidence that suggests his talent evaluations need to be questioned and perhaps this is why he is still unemployed.Shelterdog said:
Shelterdog said:
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