2013 Jets: Rex back for 2014
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Proximity mines were chaos. Nothing beats a perfectly executed remote mine trap.
Now to tie that back to the Jets.....uhhhh....their cap situation is/was a minefield. Done.
Now to tie that back to the Jets.....uhhhh....their cap situation is/was a minefield. Done.
Awkward & LOL.
NFL.com has Tannenbaum in studio, on topics like "Are the Jets mishandling Darrelle Revis" and "How should Jets handle Sanchez"
http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-york-jets/0ap2000000143398/Are-the-Jets-mishandling-Darrelle-Revis
http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-york-jets/0ap2000000143394/How-should-Jets-handle-Sanchez
NFL.com has Tannenbaum in studio, on topics like "Are the Jets mishandling Darrelle Revis" and "How should Jets handle Sanchez"
http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-york-jets/0ap2000000143398/Are-the-Jets-mishandling-Darrelle-Revis
http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-york-jets/0ap2000000143394/How-should-Jets-handle-Sanchez
So while the Pats are getting Brady on a 50% off sale, Jets FO are "snubbing" Revis' reps (by the best Jets beat writer ever, Manish Mehta):
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/corner-jets-brass-snubs-revis-agents-combine-article-1.1273500
Now Mehta has his way of pulling a "Borgie", and has done for a while now, but this just underscores the difficulties of the new Jets GM. Stories take a life of their own, even if they aren't really stories at all.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/corner-jets-brass-snubs-revis-agents-combine-article-1.1273500
Now Mehta has his way of pulling a "Borgie", and has done for a while now, but this just underscores the difficulties of the new Jets GM. Stories take a life of their own, even if they aren't really stories at all.
Thank you Woody! They get a competent GM and Woody still doesnt give him autonomy. They shouldnt be a real competitive rival for a while.
https://twitter.com/evansilva
Because whenever you're up against the cap and need a quarterback, you should definitely invest in the guy who is barely more competent than Matt Cassel.
TheYellowDart5 said:
To be fair, Cassel is much better than Brady Quinn.
I wonder if Sanchez will get psyched out by the "competition" that the Jets keep bringing in to push him - first Tebow, now Quinn...
TheYellowDart5 said:
Brady Quinn was one of only four qualified QBs (Cassel, Skelton, Lindley) with a DVOA lower than Mark Sanchez's in 2012. An open competition, indeed.
They are just trying to get the least competent former Denver QBs to come back up Sanchez.Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:
RedOctober3829 said:
The most interesting thing about the article is how Ryan is out of the loop, and Idzik is going solo in the supposed talks.
With Ryan publicly advocating keeping Revis, this seems to be paving the way for a brand new head coach in 2014, unless Jets pull out a miracle and make the playoffs.
Let's face it, Ryan is a lame duck.
They be smart to trade Revis and get salary cap relief and picks to re-stock. But (and?), in the short-term, that'll further undercut Ryan, making a decent season even more difficult and easing his removal.
If that's the plan, I'll enjoy it next year but it's the smart thing to do long-term.
If that's the plan, I'll enjoy it next year but it's the smart thing to do long-term.
Tony C said:
Absolutely. Further, there is a 0% chance Revis doesn't hit the market. Jets pull the trigger with SF or any team, really, and they get the picks, cap savings and chance to negotiate with him when he is a FA.
Jets have to do this.
Dogman2 said:
And remember if Revis leaves as a free agent the Jets take a $9 million cap hit in 2014--capmeister Tannenbaum's left an upperdecker as a parting gift.
If you're the new GM you want to take that hit this year if possible so you can have a clean slate as soon as possible.
On Mike & Mike this morning, Chris Mortensen walked back his speculation from yesterday about Brady Quinn to the Jets. Mort said he made the connection because the Jets' QB coach thinks Quinn can play and he'd be a cheap invite to camp and because the Jets want 5 QBs (Sanchize, McElroy, Simms, ____, ____) to compete.
The Evan Silva tweet doesn't source it to Mort, so maybe there are multiple sources for this report.
The Evan Silva tweet doesn't source it to Mort, so maybe there are multiple sources for this report.
Listening WFAN, Boomer & Carton, there was a brief story/rumor about Revis to 49ers.
A healthy Revis on the Jets is a waste, I hope he plays there in '13, then bails.
A healthy Revis on the Jets is a waste, I hope he plays there in '13, then bails.
Another good point. I have no doubt the Jets make a trade. The only issue in doubt is what the Jets settle for when the teams that come knocking finish their laughter. IOW, I say he goes for either a 1 and 5 or a 2 and 4.Shelterdog said:
kelpapa said:
No. If they keep him and he leaves in free agency, it's 9 million this year, 9 million in 2014. If they trade him it's 12 million this year. You'd just be dooming the team this year so you can have a fairly clean slate next year.
Wade Boggs Hair said:
As an aside, what happened to Cassel...?
Is he just fundamentally not very good?
SF has a 1, two 2's, and two 3's, I think.
In other words, Rexy, our 1 and a 2 isn't close. How about our lower 2 and a 3?
simplyeric said:
Well, the 2008 Patriots featured 3 offensive linemen who made multiple Pro Bowls and were not on the downside of their career, two of the best wide receivers in the NFL and were coached by one of the best game planners of all-time, with Josh McDaniels and Bill O'Brien as the two top offensive assistants and Dante F*cking Scarneccia as the OL coach. Cassel's only offensive weapons were Dwayne Bowe (not exactly a model of effort and consistency) and Jamaal Charles, his offensive line was nothing special and he was coached by Romeo Crennel and Brian Dabol. It was possible to cover his deficiencies with the Pats, not so much with the Chiefs.
But, as well, not that he ever had a gun, but something happened whereby he lost arm strength this past year. It was painful to see him trying to chuck the ball -- I assume an injury, but don't really know. Definitely not the same guy we had here (or KC had at first)
One more reason why Jets are considering trading Revis in 2013:
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/myers-jets-don-stand-pat-revis-article-1.1276718
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/myers-jets-don-stand-pat-revis-article-1.1276718
That article is a heaping pile of shit and reads like a bleacher report article. "Belichick hates the Jets and would love to steal Revis from them!" "If Revis has to play out his contract, he'd sign with the Patriots to spite the Jets!"
The New York Daily News cant find a real writer?
The New York Daily News cant find a real writer?
Joe Beningo of the WFAN, just finished a 10-minute rant on the Revis in a Pats jersey.
Like BB would ever sign a CB for $16MM a year (and more than Pats poster boy earns)
Yesterday Benigno proposed a Revis to the 49ers for Aldon Smith and the 49ers 2 #2s
This soap opera holds the promise for a lot of fun this year,
Like BB would ever sign a CB for $16MM a year (and more than Pats poster boy earns)
Yesterday Benigno proposed a Revis to the 49ers for Aldon Smith and the 49ers 2 #2s
This soap opera holds the promise for a lot of fun this year,
Per Mike & Mike, the Jets worked out David Garrard yesterday and may be discussing contract terms.
Kenny F'ing Powers said:
Have you ever lived in NY? The quality of "writing" in the daily rags are entertaining at best.
Not just arm strength but his mechanics and footwork were also terrible. Could be injury, could be a bad OL, could be coaching or lack of committment. In other threads people suggested trading Mallett and signing Cassel. No possible way - Cassel was incredibly terrible last year.Tony C said:
drleather2001 said:
It implies at the end that somehow the Jets might end up moving to Des Moines. Which gets me to think those words, but not about the situation.
Seems pretty clear Revis will be dealt by the draft. May be chumming, but 49ers and Falcons reportedly interested. That would be a nice competition. Maybe the return will be good for a guy who is coming off an injury and cannot be franchised.
Falcons apparently don't have the cap space for Revis. The secondary could use some work this offseason with Dunta Robinson already cut and Brent Grimes and William Moore needing to be re-signed, but I would guess that both sides of the line are higher priorities. And probably another running back and a tight end (unless, fingers crossed, Tony Gonzalez comes back).
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Via @mortreport: 49ers' interest in trading for Jets CB Darrelle Revis is ".001 on a scale of 1-10," a source said via text message
Via @mortreport: 49ers' interest in trading for Jets CB Darrelle Revis is ".001 on a scale of 1-10," a source said via text message
Vandalman said:
Well old Adam confessed error this morning on his estimation of the chances of Revis being traded.
A one-year rental would be tempting to me, for them or Atl, Almost 20 years ago, the 49ers won a SB renting Deion Sanders for a season. This is a real weakness for both of hese teams, perhaps the 49ers only big weakness.
This is the one situation that I wish the Jets weren't the Patriots' chief "rival". I'd take Revis on a 1-year rental in a SECOND. Too bad I have a better chance of having sex with Kate Upton than the Pats do of landing Revis right now.dcmissle said:
All I know is that the Jets are likely to get substantially less than their fan base wants. Its basically a one year rental at a cap charge of $9M. If Revis plays like the Revis of old, you are getting a nice short term bargain. But if Revis is just a little slow coming back from the ACL surgery and is merely a Top 10 CB, you are only breaking even given that cap charge. And if he has some kind of severe performance setback, which seems unlikely but is still certainly possible, then you are getting hammered. I think a 2nd round pick is the most they will get.
RedOctober3829 said:
Absolutely. I'd surrender our first round pick for him and never look back, regardless of whether we extend him, provided they really scrub the medicals.
Now at this point, somebody is going to chime in, "Well logic demands that the Jets take the best deal, regardless of the trading partner,", forgetting, of course, that logic does not animate Woody.
Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:
If the Jet's received only a 2nd round pick we'll have fun for weeks watching Jet's fans meltdown. Remember the gangreen discussion when this was first brought up? People there were talking about 3 first round draft picks + a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th! This would be the cherry on top of a wonderful year for the Jets.
Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:
You're essentially right except for the price tag--the cap hit for another team would be $6 million which isn't bad at all for a one year rental.
Shelterdog said:
I still think a 1st and a 6th or a 2nd and 5th or some conditional option of those.
Shelterdog said:
Yup, you're right. That obviously increases the attractiveness of a one-year rental but I still have my doubts about how much anybody will give up.
Once a 1st is on the table, teams have to decide if they just want to move up and get Milliner. Its a gamble either way but would you rather give up the 1st and gamble on Revis rebounding to form and giving him a huge extension, or do you sacrifice the 2nd round pick get Milliner and go spend what you would have been spending on Revis in free agency? While Revis is a shutdown dominating guy, I dont know if he is really better than 2 players (Milliner + FA pickup), especially next year when he is coming back from the ACL.
Assuming you'd have to give up the second round pick to trade for Revis OR move up for Milliner (ie, it's a wash) , representing it as 1 player vs 2 doesn't really work. What you'd have is:
"Milliner + Free Agent(s) signed with the money that would otherwise be spent on Revis," on one hand, on the other "Revis plus own first-round pick."
Which then breaks down into "Milliner vs other talents available in the draft" and "Revis versus other talents, or combinations of talent, available for the same money in FA." Being high on Revis or expecting him to accept a somewhat reasonable extension makes the Revis deal more likely, while being high on Milliner makes it less. There's also the degree of GFIN in play, because Revis is likely to be substantially better than any rookie for next season, however talented the rook is.
"Milliner + Free Agent(s) signed with the money that would otherwise be spent on Revis," on one hand, on the other "Revis plus own first-round pick."
Which then breaks down into "Milliner vs other talents available in the draft" and "Revis versus other talents, or combinations of talent, available for the same money in FA." Being high on Revis or expecting him to accept a somewhat reasonable extension makes the Revis deal more likely, while being high on Milliner makes it less. There's also the degree of GFIN in play, because Revis is likely to be substantially better than any rookie for next season, however talented the rook is.
Wade Boggs Hair said:
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#RL The New York Jets have announced this afternoon they have signed 9-year veteran QB David Garrard.