2013 Jets: Rex back for 2014

JimBoSox9 · Jan 8, 2013

lostjumper said:
As if Kate Uption wasn't perfect already! That was a really well done slam.

I am literally weeping with happiness. The calendar may have already turned, but January 8th marks the perfect exclamation point to the Jets 2012 obituary. Tangentially, if I ever was in a position to be able to choose between Kate Upton and Olivia Munn, I'm sure I'd mentally break down so completely that I'd find a way to ruin it with both. I kind of hate you, Yaz, but thank you, thank you kindly for that.

Reverend said:
Nice.

You know, until you responded, I honestly wasn't 100% sure it was a joke. I sort of thought it was odd for a moment that he would think that Rex throwing her under the bus was even possibly on the table, and then I just moved on. Does that say more about me or the Jets?

Edit: added unnecessary snide jab at Yaz.

Dogman · Jan 8, 2013

I'm honestly starting to think Rex and his wife invited Mark into their bedroom and that is what the tat signifies. There has to be another reason he stuck with Mark for as long as he did despite all the evidence that he wasn't very good (not that Tebow or McElroy are better).

Old Fart Tree · Jan 8, 2013

Wait - what? unlawful possession of a chair? whaaaaaaaaaaaaa-?

Reverend · Jan 8, 2013

Old Fart Tree said:
Wait - what? unlawful possession of a chair? whaaaaaaaaaaaaa-?

This is just bad writing at this point.

glennhoffmania · Jan 8, 2013

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones promised back on Jan. 2 that Dallas would be making some organizational changes and on Tuesday the Cowboys made a big one when they fired second-year defensive coordinator Rob Ryan.

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I smell a family reunion.

And I enjoyed this quote:

"I inherited a team that was 31st in the league in defense and made them better. I (expletive) made them a hell of a lot better. I'll be out of work for like five minutes,"

Reverend · Jan 8, 2013

That would be really, really bad writing.

Ed Hillel · Jan 8, 2013

Edit, already covered.

Smiling Joe Hesketh · Jan 9, 2013

glennhoffmania said:
Link

I smell a family reunion.

And I enjoyed this quote:

Dallas points allowed in two seasons under Ryan: 747 (16th and 23rd)

Dallas points allowed in two seasons prior to Ryan: 686 (2nd and 31st)

Like his brother Rob has a somewhat tenuous grasp on reality.

mauf · Jan 9, 2013

glennhoffmania said:
Link

I smell a family reunion.

And I enjoyed this quote:

I had already decided my 2013 fantasy team would be named "Buddy Ryan's Bratty Kids," so I hope Rob is right about his job prospects.

dcmissle · Jan 9, 2013

Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
Dallas points allowed in two seasons under Ryan: 747 (16th and 23rd)

Dallas points allowed in two seasons prior to Ryan: 686 (2nd and 31st)

Like his brother Rob has a somewhat tenuous grasp on reality.

Even so, the patient in Dallas has COPD and 'Jurrah' has cut off a mole, relatively speaking. It wasn't a great defense, but Ryan had big injury problems, and this is far from the principal problem with the team.

But heads must roll ...

EDIT -- You can, write the golden quotes right now if bro ends up in NY:

Rex -- "This is like JFK appointing his brother Bobby Attorney General ... Loyalty is key ... I need someone who has my back ..."

glennhoffmania · Jan 9, 2013

I like how Garrett got out of town before the firing. He apparently wanted to be as far away from Ryan as possible.

dcmissle · Jan 9, 2013

glennhoffmania said:
I like how Garrett got out of town before the firing. He apparently wanted to be as far away from Ryan as possible.

He gets the Rex lounge chair pool side -- and will keep it warm for Mike Shanahan.

TheoShmeo · Jan 9, 2013

Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
Dallas points allowed in two seasons under Ryan: 747 (16th and 23rd)

Dallas points allowed in two seasons prior to Ryan: 686 (2nd and 31st)

Like his brother Rob has a somewhat tenuous grasp on reality.

And in about the same way.

Rexyspeak: “We are going to be a dangerous football team, I can promise you that,” Ryan said. “How many wins, all that? I don’t know. But I’m going to tell you, you’re not going to want to play the New York Jets because I know the mentality we’re going to take and that’s what I’m looking forward to.”

Robspeak: "I inherited a team that was 31st in the league in defense and made them better," Ryan told ESPNDallas.com's Tim MacMahon. "I (expletive) made them a hell of a lot better. I'll be out of work for like five minutes."

dcmissle · Jan 9, 2013

"We're gonna lead the League in effing coaching changes ..."

tims4wins · Jan 9, 2013

Apropos of nothing, this Jets GM search kind of reminds me of the Sox manager search last offseason.

simplyeric · Jan 9, 2013

dcmissle said:
"We're gonna lead the League in effing coaching changes ..."

+1

ShaneTrot · Jan 9, 2013

From http://m.nfl.com/news/0ap1000000124079/
Ryan's Jets have lost 13 of their last 19 games, dating to December 2011. And this season didn't exactly feature a bunch of near misses; the Jets lost six games by 17 points or more.

KiltedFool · Jan 10, 2013

The Jets will be interviewing Omar Khan, the steelers' capologist and chief contract negotiator, for the open GM seat.

Omar is a wizard and a big part of the Steelers' success, he'd be a hard one to replace. I'd have to think he's a hell of a lot smarter than to take the circus of the Jets' GM seat rather than the stability of ownership at his current gig. Wouldn't surprise me if it was a leverage move on his part.

Buck Showalter · Jan 10, 2013

KiltedFool said:
The Jets will be interviewing Omar Khan, the steelers' capologist and chief contract negotiator, for the open GM seat.

Omar is a wizard and a big part of the Steelers' success, he'd be a hard one to replace. I'd have to think he's a hell of a lot smarter than to take the circus of the Jets' GM seat rather than the stability of ownership at his current gig. Wouldn't surprise me if it was a leverage move on his part.

That's crazy. He's a different version of Tannenbaum.

They need a real-life talent evaluator.....which shows you that Rex was and remains in-charge of that area.

But hey.....it only helps the Patriots.

BannedbyNYYFans.com · Jan 10, 2013

Buck Showalter said:
That's crazy. He's a different version of Tannenbaum.

This was my reaction. If they hire Khan, that means Rex (or a new hire) will have a lot more influence on personnel and talent evaluation. And that's a good thing.

They've already missed out on Caldwell and Telesco, two of their rumored favorites. If you're a Jets fan you can't be thrilled with how things have gone this far.

Mystic Merlin · Jan 10, 2013

Whoever they hire, Rex is running the show. It's irrelevant.

bankshot1 · Jan 10, 2013

Mystic Merlin said:
Whoever they hire, Rex is running the show. It's irrelevant.

This.

Rex gets to ok the GM-candidate. Thus the candidate must sign on to Rex. Rex get himself a yes-man.

Now the Jets may get lucky and get a great GM, but the probability of any independent thinker, who is good at the job wil sign for being Rex's yes-man is slim.

Bergs · Jan 10, 2013

Rob Ryan said:
"I inherited a team that was 31st in the league in defense and made them better. I (expletive) made them a hell of a lot better. I'll be out of work for like five minutes,"

He's right, I'd wager.

Harry Hooper · Jan 10, 2013

Mystic Merlin said:
Whoever they hire, Rex is running the show. It's irrelevant.

Yes, Francesa really picked up on Rex talking as if he had a new 5-year mandate from Woody to be the mastermind.

glennhoffmania · Jan 10, 2013

Why don't they just make Rex the GM/coach and call it a day? Has a coach ever had a say in the hiring of a GM before?

Leather · Jan 10, 2013

Because then who would Rex blame after next year, when they go 6-10?

tims4wins · Jan 10, 2013

6-10 is generous

soxhop411 · Jan 10, 2013

RT @KMart_LI: BREAKING: Caldwell on Tebow: I cant imagine a scenario where he'd be a Jax Jaguar. Even if he's released." #nyj

They were the supposed "main suitor" for tebow. So what team does he go to now?

Al Zarilla · Jan 10, 2013

soxhop411 said:
RT @KMart_LI: BREAKING: Caldwell on Tebow: I cant imagine a scenario where he'd be a Jax Jaguar. Even if he's released." #nyj

They were the supposed "main suitor" for tebow. So what team does he go to now?

Who gives a Rats, Tats and Naked Digits? I'd just soon lose the distraction he is to following the NFL.

Shelterdog · Jan 10, 2013

Al Zarilla said:
Who gives a Rats, Tats and Naked Digits? I'd just soon lose the distraction he is to following the NFL.

Laugh now but we all catch Tebowmania the second he becomes the NEP's backup fullback.

dcmissle · Jan 10, 2013

Al Zarilla said:
Who gives a Rats, Tats and Naked Digits? I'd just soon lose the distraction he is to following the NFL.

You do, or should given your thoughts on the distraction disappearing.

The most plausible landing spot for Tebow has pretty clearly been clustered bombed.

dcmissle · Jan 10, 2013

Shelterdog said:
Laugh now but we all catch Tebowmania the second he becomes the NEP's backup fullback.

That would be interesting, as it would require him to renounce all QB aspirations, except as an emergency parachute.

Shelterdog · Jan 10, 2013

dcmissle said:
That would be interesting, as it would require him to renounce all QB aspirations, except as an emergency parachute.

Yup. But I think his options are quickly becoming be a CFL quarterback or try and stick on as a Jim Jensen type in the NFL.

bankshot1 · Jan 10, 2013

I posted months ago, that Tebow should go to the CFL, to resurrect his career. .

KiltedFool · Jan 10, 2013

BannedbyNYYFans.com said:
This was my reaction. If they hire Khan, that means Rex (or a new hire) will have a lot more influence on personnel and talent evaluation. And that's a good thing.

They've already missed out on Caldwell and Telesco, two of their rumored favorites. If you're a Jets fan you can't be thrilled with how things have gone this far.

Yep. Khan is a maestro at what he is, a cap and contracts guy, so he's very valuable to the Steelers. Not convinced he's anything more than that, he's not needed for talent evaluation in the Steelers org.

And yes the Jets are a delightful shitshow.

dcmissle · Jan 10, 2013

bankshot1 said:
I posted months ago, that Tebow should go to the CFL, to resurrect his career. .

Continuing the frolic & detour (lest we start a Tebow thread), how exactly?

As I see it:

1. This year has seen two guys come in as rookies and execute some variant of what Tebow did last year, but --

they have vastly more accurate and powerful arms,

they are much faster and quicker than Tebow, and

they were, not surprisingly, much better QBs than Tim was last year.

2. At the same time, we have been told that since Florida, people have worked with Tim on his mechanics, to no avail. He always reverts to form.

So if this is the hand he has been dealt, plot the path back to the NFL at QB. It does not seem likely.

Dogman · Jan 10, 2013

In my mind, this is how Tony C., Soxfan121 and JohnMD reacted to this conversation:

:rex:

bankshot1 · Jan 10, 2013

dcmissle said:
Continuing the frolic & detour (lest we start a Tebow thread), how exactly?

As I see it:

1. This year has seen two guys come in as rookies and execute some variant of what Tebow did last year, but --

they have vastly more accurate and powerful arms,

they are much faster and quicker than Tebow, and

they were, not surprisingly, much better QBs than Tim was last year.

2. At the same time, we have been told that since Florida, people have worked with Tim on his mechanics, to no avail. He always reverts to form.

So if this is the hand he has been dealt, plot the path back to the NFL at QB. It does not seem likely.

IMO the CFL would give him a shot to learn the craft of QBing under a far less harsh spotlight. I've no idea if Tebow will ever develop the arm/accuracy to be a NFL quality QB, but IMO2 he will fail in the NFL.

And there are more than a few guys who played QB in the CFL who came back to the NFL with a fair degree of success.

johnmd20 · Jan 10, 2013

Dogman2 said:
In my mind, this is how Tony C., Soxfan121 and JohnMD reacted to this conversation:

All in all, it's ok, he'll get a shot somewhere and we'll see what happens. He's a fun QB to watch and I hope he gets a chance somewhere.

TheoShmeo · Jan 10, 2013

Shelterdog said:
Laugh now but we all catch Tebowmania the second he becomes the NEP's backup fullback.

I'll take ANYONE on the Pats who contributes and makes them better. If Tebow could do that as a QB, fine with me. And the thought of the Pats pulling some value out of Tebow while Jets fans stew in some seriously bitter juices over it...so much the better.

Late edit: Oops, I wrote QB and meant FB. Though really, my point stands either way. If Tebow, Jebow or Frebow helps the Pats, sign me up.

Dogman · Jan 10, 2013

johnmd20 said:
All in all, it's ok, he'll get a shot somewhere and we'll see what happens. He's a fun QB to watch and I hope he gets a chance somewhere.

Absolutely.

mwonow · Jan 10, 2013

glennhoffmania said:
Why don't they just make Rex the GM/coach and call it a day? Has a coach ever had a say in the hiring of a GM before?

Isn't Pioli available? And he's got experience!

CaptainLaddie · Jan 11, 2013

Dogman2 said:
In my mind, this is how Tony C., Soxfan121 and JohnMD reacted to this conversation:

:rex:

He's their precious.

And they're all still horribly horribly wrong.

Darnell's Son · Jan 11, 2013

Dogman2 said:
In my mind, this is how Tony C., Soxfan121 and JohnMD reacted to this conversation:

:rex:

I love Dogman2 unconditionally.

PC Drunken Friar · Jan 11, 2013

johnmd20 said:
All in all, it's ok, he'll get a shot somewhere and we'll see what happens. He's a fun QB to watch and I hope he gets a chance somewhere.

How is he a fun QB to watch, exactly, other than to see how horrible a QB he really is?

Shelterdog · Jan 11, 2013

PC Drunken Friar said:
How is he a fun QB to watch, exactly, other than to see how horrible a QB he really is?

Scrambling quarterbacks are always fun to watch; improvisational plays with athletic quarterbacks--whether they end in picks, long completions, sacks or long runs--are generally more interesting than a Brady or a Manning throwing a six yard checkdown or throwing it out of bounds.

With Tebow specifically he's a really fun runner--he is big and strong as shit, he's like a fast fullback, and he just plows through sons of bitches. He has no business as an NFL quarterback but a play like that run he had to beat the Jets was just awesome.

dcmissle · Jan 11, 2013

Pasting a John Marzano post from the media forum:

This is via RotoWorld but comes from the NY Post:

Quote

The New York Post reports at least two execs have turned down the chance to interview with the Jets over salary cap concerns.

"Salary cap hell" is how one league source describes the Jets' situation, as they are already $19.4 million over the 2013 cap. Ex-Browns GM Tom Heckert canceled his interview while Dave Caldwell and Tom Telesco chose the Jaguars and Chargers, respective, over the Jets. The team will have just 10 returning starters under contract in 2013. Per the Post, two undisclosed former GMs are expected to be added to the Jets' candidate list this weekend.

Shelter has talked about this breeing for some time. So you have an erratic owner, Rex dug in, no QB, and kid-brother status in NYC. What's to like?

Gambler7 · Jan 11, 2013

Rex Ryan and Woody Johnson may have danced around the Tim Tebow debacle at a press conference earlier in the week, but retiring special teams coordinator Mike Westhoff left little doubt that the Jets fumbled the entire situation.
"It was a mess," Westhoff told the Joe Rose Show on 560-AM WQAM in South Florida on Friday morning. "It was an absolute mess. You can say it however else you want it: It was really a mess. I was very, very disappointed."

"To be honest, I don't think anybody has really answered that question: Why did we do it?" Westhoff said. "I honestly don't know. I know we didn't practice it. We didn't practice it in training camp. We were going to unveil it. Well, I'm still waiting for the unveiling. And it didn't happen."
"It's very disappointing," Westhoff added, "But again, if you just say this is a quintessential NFL drop back quarterback, no he's not. He's just not. But if you use him a lot of different facets, in my opinion, I think he's outstanding. If you do that. But we didn't do it. And it was a distraction… and really a shame. Because that's a hard working young man if you ever saw one. Believe me."

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/westhoff-rips-jets-handling-tebow-article-1.1238127

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