The Plan For the #1, er, #3 Overall Pick?
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If by a long time you mean a few months... sure, but there have been plenty of drafts when the consensus #1 wasn't the best player, especially in those draft years that didn't have wire to wire, no doubt #1 picks which Fultz certainly wasn't.
Ainge has clearly lost his fastball if he's allowing protections on picks now.
Kidding—hope Sac pick is really in play though.
Kidding—hope Sac pick is really in play though.
Hey, lets be optimistic and presume that the protections are for the Celtics. Lakers '18, unless the Sixers pick is better. Kings '19, unless the Sixers pick is better.
I can dream.
Feel same
Why would you make Philly so strong while not helping yourself too
And Danny should have memories of 82-83
F this
The Sacto and Laker picks are nice gambles for a rebuilding team, if swapping them for a player is the plan here.
Aparently people around the league think that the Celtics are keeping the 3 and the BKN 18 and the 2 picks in this trade are getting moved on.
The "Why Bother Competing For The Next 3 years because Golden State" people are going to have a fit.
Three potential top picks...not many targets worth that. AD, Celtics nation hopes against hope it is you.
That's a huge overpay for Butler
That's a huge overpay for Butler
You gotta have a dream -
If you don't have a dream,
How you gonna have a dream come true?
Pretty SSS though. There have only been 4 since Magic Johnson. Rose/Irving/Iverson/Wall.
I think from the way it's worded, they're saying only the Lakers and SAC picks. So 2 very good picks, but also probably the 3rd and 4th best picks the Celtics have after this deal. That's a fair price for Butler or George as an example.
The second deal better be for someone other than Jimmy Butler. SOMEONE on this team needs to shoot the basketball.
If Ainge turns around and trades the Brooklyn 18 for Jimmy Butler I'll die.
Someone needs to score the basketball is probably more accurate. We shot above league average from 3 last year with Bradley and Crowder at 40%, Horford at a solid for a big 36%, IT at 38%. The worst aspects of the offense were scoring off the dribble and drawing fouls, two areas where Butler excels.
Tony Mazz will have a meltdown if Harden plays for the Celtics. Please make this happen.
And I could cite many, many others that say it's a no-brainer to take Fultz at #1. In your quote from 11 days ago Ford still says Fultz was their top guy on the board. You hear all the time in drafts that the team with the #1 pick is "considering" other players than the consensus top pick and it's usually bullshit. An NBA GM can say that Jackson is an Ainge guy but that doesn't mean he's going to move off of the better player for him.
Look, I know that Jackson is a good player that would help the team. But Fultz's ceiling is so high that it would force me to take him and live with the decision. Danny is built differently than most.
ESPN now saying the Sixers #1s swap is a go! #1 for #3, with other picks (yet to be determined) in the mix. No players named.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19665119/boston-celtics-philadelphia-76ers-agree-swap-nos-1-3-draft-picks
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19665119/boston-celtics-philadelphia-76ers-agree-swap-nos-1-3-draft-picks
If you feel that its stressful rooting against the Nets, then you need to take a pill. The Nets absolutely sucked last season and delivered night after night with crappy play.
Good grief the whining here is absurd. I'll take Danny and Brad's assessment on talent over any of the 'trust the process' jokers in Philly.
If the Celts braintrust believe Jackson has the same upside as Fultz this trade is brilliant.
Others may pooh pooh the 76ers aspect, but if this trade yanks them out of the lottery in 2018 and 2019, that's not a bad thing.
In addition to Fultz being the better player let's not forget Jackson is a woman abuser. Who wants to root for that?
And Ball brings the crazy family and doesn't want to be here
And Ball brings the crazy family and doesn't want to be here
I find the distaste for trading for Butler on this board baffling, He's a terrific 2 way player who is significantly better than anyone one the roster, he's on a great contract for 2 more years (allowing you to extend him if you want) he's still under 30, he was one of the 5-10 most valuable players in the league last year and carried a truly awful roster to the playoffs on his back.
I don't particularly want to trade the BKN 18 for him, but I'd be thrilled with say LAL 18 and SAC 19 plus some salaries?
The odds are pretty decent that nobody in this draft even touches how good Jimmy Butler is right now.
I don't particularly want to trade the BKN 18 for him, but I'd be thrilled with say LAL 18 and SAC 19 plus some salaries?
The odds are pretty decent that nobody in this draft even touches how good Jimmy Butler is right now.
For me, it's a timing issue. I'm on board the window being 2020 forward, so blowing the wad on a guy who's only under contract two seasons and will be 30 after that isn't ideal.
That's a bit strong. He kicked the door of a girl's car. Absent other details, I'm calling this a stupid mistake, and I'm much more concerned about his FT shooting than this.
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Asked an NBA exec for his opinion on Philly-Boston trade. His answer: "That's Danny [Ainge] for you. Not a highway robbery, but it's close."
Asked an NBA exec for his opinion on Philly-Boston trade. His answer: "That's Danny [Ainge] for you. Not a highway robbery, but it's close."
By the time GSW is done, he's 32
But he's better than George for a long term process, sure.
It's all about the proper horizon
Jackson still hasn't worked out for the Celtics, right? Seems odd to make this kind of trade if the target player hasn't worked out for your yet.
He's talking about Josh Jackson's rapsheet. Womanbeater, money laundering, highway robbery. Who knows what's next.
Because they have more value without protections and the team trading for them might actually care about such a thing? What a stupid take.
Even as a fan of this team I am going to laugh my f------ ass off if we end up make the same mistake as Billy King and trade the Nets picks to GTFIN without having a real chance at a title.
I have no problem with the idea of trading out of #1 if they really prefer someone other than Fultz, Ball and Jackson. But please don't piss the Brooklyn picks away to build a "contender." We are already a contender.
While it's though to grade this move without knowing how the other pieces end up coming together, as of now, I hate this move.
I just went down a worm hole watching Josh Jackson scouting vids and his form is horrific. Makes Lonzo's form look good.
I just went down a worm hole watching Josh Jackson scouting vids and his form is horrific. Makes Lonzo's form look good.
That's a bit of an exaggeration of the Jackson incident. It wasn't great, but what it actually was is that a woman threw a drink in his friend's face and a (probably drunk) Jackson screamed at her and hit her car.
Sure I guess, but I can't see an NBA franchise in the position the Celtics are just treading water for 3 years when they are one of the better teams in the league. Long term planning makes holding the BKN pick useful, but you can't really expect them to just waste the primes of the guys they have now. Butler even through his early/mid 30s is a pretty good asset whether as a valuable member of your team or trade bait. If they max IT I'd be worried, but getting a young All-NBA caliber player for some of their less valuable picks is a nice way of balancing draft based upside with proven elite talent.
Depends what you mean by done. The current team for GS is unlikely to last more than 2 or 3 years at most unless Thompson and Green take unprecedented pay cuts.
If they argument is that you should burn out the primes of your current starters, and the entire first contracts of Brown and whoever they pick this year waiting on Durant to decline... well that seems dumb to me. You can't really build a team to be good in 5+ years, the contract lengths alone make it really really difficult, as does projecting who will be bad that far out for best lotto odds.. and then hoping for luck. Better off being good without selling off the very best future assets and hoping that your luck is an injury or chemistry explosion in the GS lockerroom