The Nation's Tears: Pink Stripes
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My favorite thing I found in comment sections today was in a story by Robert Mays about how the Pats were the better team last night. This inspired dozen's of fans to scream and shout that the Steelers were "clearly the better team" and that they would have won the game if they didn't miss two field goals, didn't fuck up on the goal line, Heywerd-Bey would have caught the pass in bounds and if their secondary didn't let the down. Of course, if any team took all of their mistakes out of a game they would always win, but it just so funny to see the knots people are willing to twist themselves into to avoid giving the Patriots credit.
Kliq said:
Yeah also, "the better team" doesn't fuck up so much. There's a reason the Patriots are usually the better team, they fuck up less.
I love the "better" team debate. It never seems to come from the winners for some reason -- unless they have to defend bullshit cheating allegations, I suppose.
When they start handing out trophies for who was better instead of who scored more points, I'll start to give a shit.
When they start handing out trophies for who was better instead of who scored more points, I'll start to give a shit.
Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:
We've heard variations of this coming out of Pittsburgh and Indianapolis for years.
Baltmore more recently.
This has been the narrative from the very beginning of the B/B era. The Patriots would keep it close and make a big play or let the other team beat themselves and then the losers would whine about how they should have won. I've always thought that a big part of the "cheaters" narrative was that these teams thought they were more talented and deserved to win but mysteriously lost so something had to be off.Kliq said:
Edit: Of course this works to New England's advantage. If you can be Kordell Stewart and be the third best quarterback in an AFCCG and lose but nevertheless declare you really were the best team then you are built to lose. I doubt any of us can imagine a scenario where Brady loses and says "well we were the best team obviously."
I hate to state the obvious, but yeah, sometimes, the better team on the day loses. It happens.
“@PhilAPerry: If you were hoping to see the full pregame ceremony last night but couldn’t, here it is via @PATRIOTSdotCOM: http://t.co/IP0gVurAe5
Catching up on this thread, I thought this quote was particularly telling in view of the latest stupid controversy.weeba said:
I also seem to recall BB saying that part of the reason he didn't call a timeout at the end of the Suepr Bowl this year was because he knew how chaotic the last minutes of a Super Bowl can be due to headset comms being challenged by all the media descending on the field. Am I making that up?
That may explain why "it always seems to happen in New England" too. The Steelers, for example have been on the top tier of AFC teams during this entire Patriots run. As such, their games in NE are usually, at worst, the CBS National game (4:25) with the Nantz and Simms announcing crew and all of the on site correspondents, etc. Many times, like last night, it's been THE game, either Sunday night or Monday night (back when MNF was the marquee match-up of the week)Saints Rest said:
Anyhow, basically, whenever PIT and NE play, it's a big deal and the media treats it as such
brandonchristensen said:
Thanks for posting that.
Highlights include things in the background at the 23s and 1m mark. So perfect; I'm sure they are both coincidences, but fantastic ones.
Marshall Lynch's failure to pick up a yard at the end of that game provides more than enough joy for this Pats to get over the other AFC East entrants all winning.
I think the primary driver was BB's no time-out call and the desire to pass on one of the three potentially remaining downs. By far. But maybe Pete was also affected by Lynch's 1-5 record from the one last year. Maybe.
Regardless, the irony in today's result is glaringly obvious...and fun stuff.
Oh, and if the Seahawks had recovered the onside kick, it would have been hailed as gutsy and brilliant. But in exactly that situation, I would not want the Pats to attempt it. The short field it's failure gave the Rams was not worth the gamble, in my view. Thanks, Poodle Pete.
I think the primary driver was BB's no time-out call and the desire to pass on one of the three potentially remaining downs. By far. But maybe Pete was also affected by Lynch's 1-5 record from the one last year. Maybe.
Regardless, the irony in today's result is glaringly obvious...and fun stuff.
Oh, and if the Seahawks had recovered the onside kick, it would have been hailed as gutsy and brilliant. But in exactly that situation, I would not want the Pats to attempt it. The short field it's failure gave the Rams was not worth the gamble, in my view. Thanks, Poodle Pete.
TheoShmeo said:
You need Lynch not picking up a yard in week 1 of the 2015 season to feel joy? Man I feel sorry for you...
I believe you have enough 2014 threads about the Superbowl so if you could keep from mucking this one up with stuff from 2014 that would be much appreciated.
These posts were moved from the Seahawks thread:
wibi's right. Posting stuff celebrating the Patriots in the Seahawks thread is inappropriate. If you simply must post crap like this, do it in the right thread: this one.
TheoShmeo said:
wibi said:
wibi's right. Posting stuff celebrating the Patriots in the Seahawks thread is inappropriate. If you simply must post crap like this, do it in the right thread: this one.
Never noticed this before. Super Bowl.
18 seconds left. After the fight. One last huddle. Brady is trying to call the victory formation in the huddle. Slater and Vereen are back hugging about distance of where they will be as backup protection for the kneel down. Brady sticks his head out to scream at them "get over here" with the intensity of this is important.
Pretty damn funny. Singular focus of Brady on display.
18 seconds left. After the fight. One last huddle. Brady is trying to call the victory formation in the huddle. Slater and Vereen are back hugging about distance of where they will be as backup protection for the kneel down. Brady sticks his head out to scream at them "get over here" with the intensity of this is important.
Pretty damn funny. Singular focus of Brady on display.
drleather2001 said:
Top comment wins it
Stop it, guys. You know damn well you just copy/pasted that from the last time Goodell spoke on the issue.
Well you gotta hand it to Miss America. She pretty much nails how most of this country thinks about this issue.
k-factory said:
She also nails the fact that most of this country doesn't know any fucking science.
Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
Well I think the point is that science doesn't even really enter into the picture. Why bother when the bar is simply "was there question there"?
As for science I believe this is the video you are looking for: http://deadspin.com/5814133/miss-usa-candidates-attempt-to-answer-a-question-about-evolution-fail-at-it
To TheoShmeo's point about the Lynch run - did anyone see Indy's first TD yesterday? It was the exact same play as the Butler pick. And Montcrief was WIDE open. He just walked into the end zone, not a defender within 3 yards of him. Just a little more fuel to the fire that running wasn't so obvious.
I would hope that all loyal Pats fans will be blowing up the twitter account of that redneck Eldrege that asked the question.
I am assuming Miss America has no immediate touring plans for the northeast.
I am assuming Miss America has no immediate touring plans for the northeast.
I was driving past Philly last night and picked up their radio. Brian Dawkins was on and asked about Deflategate. He said that it "was not fair to the 1,500 other players that Brady went unpunished completely." When the host brought up evidence and asked if there was actually any of it against Brady, Dawkins said "no." There was an awkward silence, and the host prodded Dawkins to put those together and he said, "Well, but why did the Patriots lose a 1st and 4th round pick. What more evidence do you need?" More awkward silence. Then he went casually on to, "well, do you really think they would have deflated those footballs without Tom's knowledge?"Smiling Joe Hesketh said:
There is simply a lack of understanding about even the most fundamental aspects of science. You don't need to know the IGL or its formula, but at least the knowledge hot air expands and cold air contracts should be enough to at least cause some pause. But nope. The PSI dropped, and the only possible explanation is that someone let air out of the footballs. It's sad.
From "I'm not sure" to "he definitely cheated" in about 6 seconds. She could have saved the NFL a BUNDLE.drleather2001 said:
I think you guys will like this...After the Super Bowl I posted about a friend who threatened to end our friendship because she felt I was reveling too much in the victory at Seattle's expense and went on this We are 12 rant (some of you may remember)....so fast forward to yesterday I don't know if anyone heard Russell Wilson's comments about the play call to run Lynch on the last play. He said, "It was the right call, we have the best back in football let's see what we can get." The irony was dripping so I posted the following on FB:
wait a minute so Post-game Russell Wilson on the 4th and 1 says, "it was a good call, you have the best RB in the league let's see what we can get." Holy complete and utter facepalm, do it in September and not February? Got it.
Which was then followed by the following reply from the same friend: Jason shut up!!! Why can't you just be happy for your teams victory! No you just have to hate on the Seahawks are you that threatened by the Hawks that you just have to run your mouth! Seriously J let it go! Damn!
I replied politely but it was hard without laughing my ass off.
wait a minute so Post-game Russell Wilson on the 4th and 1 says, "it was a good call, you have the best RB in the league let's see what we can get." Holy complete and utter facepalm, do it in September and not February? Got it.
Which was then followed by the following reply from the same friend: Jason shut up!!! Why can't you just be happy for your teams victory! No you just have to hate on the Seahawks are you that threatened by the Hawks that you just have to run your mouth! Seriously J let it go! Damn!
I replied politely but it was hard without laughing my ass off.
Zo and Beatle are killing these poor girls today. It's fucking hilarious.
"Is there any question to be had", what in the hell does that mean?
"Is there any question to be had", what in the hell does that mean?
Fun fact (to extend the point t4w made about a hangover):
All 3 losers to the Pats in the SB have not returned to the SB in the 10+ years following the loss.
Sorry Hawks fans. Hangover
All 3 losers to the Pats in the SB have not returned to the SB in the 10+ years following the loss.
Sorry Hawks fans. Hangover
It's a little lame to be celebrating the Hawks' loss. Like, we beat them, it's over, they are not in our conference. I know DFG has everyone salty but Seattle had literally nothing to do with that shit, they just happened to be the next team in the way. Now the Colts and Ravens on the other hand, celebrate their misfortune all you want.
Old Fart Tree said:
I think a lot of people just really don't like that Seattle team.
I'm one of them. I can't stand the whole operation, the bravado, the stupid uniforms, the coach, the QB hearing deities, a group of fans that willingly refers to themselves as the "12s". It's all awful.
I'm just happy to see a really scary team take a loss. They're still the NFC team I'd least like to defend the title against.
I disagree with everything except the bolded. God-loving/fearing players, highly involved fans, bravado - we had all of those elements with the 2004 Sox, and I give no shits about uniforms. The coach is an absolute dipshit, though.( . ) ( . ) and (_!_) said:
Marciano490 said:
That's where I stand too. I have nothing but respect for Seattle and, for various reasons, I don't like our chances that much in a potential rematch. Since winning another Super Bowl is the goal, I'm happy to see the toughest possible opponent get into a little trouble early in the season.