I get it but I'm of the general belief that a GM's feelings don't matter. Players' feelings matter though and I think the feelings of a homegrown superstar who's the most popular player on the Yankees since Jeter (and who they're still hoping to extend) do matter.
You forgot "already signed and much cheaper".
Stanton also has better numbers, and no failed attempts to troll his rivals, in the playoffs.
Yeah, god speed, Aaron, because no way I'm turning that down as a guy who's about to turn 30 and who has missed a considerable amount of time in his career. That was an incredibly fair offer so wondering if there's more to it.
I think the disconnect is that he might've gotten something like that if he became a free agent in his 20s, when it seems most superstars hit free agency.
Same. Love the guy, but learn your lessons from Jeter. Stay and be a legend for the rest of your life, get tons of media attention and marketing opportunities. Or go hope you can go to Minnesota for an extra $20m
There is no way NY goes past 8 years, so while 260 is not actually halfway between 213 and 360 (!!!!), I do think that the absolute highest NY would go is something like 8/256, so yes.
It's New York and he hasn't won shit yet and he wants to be paid until he's 40. We'll be fine if he goes somewhere else, as much as it sucks. The truth is that the vax shit and the contract stuff kind of turned a lot of people against him in a very short period of time. Everyone is still a Judge fan but something about the way he's using that confidence which he normally uses against our opponents but instead wielding it against the organization is off putting. Every player should fight for the biggest contract they think they deserve and who are we to judge whether or not he should have accepted but clearly something went wrong here.
And actually more, there is a bunch of deferred money in the Mookie deal, making the actual current yearly value $25.5M.
The younger players deserve to be paid more, the huge deals often end up as overpays for actual performance. It's not so much that 'the players deserve to be paid' as 'performance and salary need to be more closely linked', and this CBA did help some with that, but still more often than not, it's the smart move to let the superstar leave and maintain financial flexibility as well as roster flexibility.
I never really look at the actual payments, only the AAV/ CBT numbers; players use whatever number is larger to feed their egos and teams backload and defer money to get extra marginal value out, but those numbers aren’t being used (by teams) to justify not spending.
Agreed on the first point, but since the system didn’t change the basic structure of how the player pool extracts their money from ownership overall, it’s reasonable to expect superstars now to stilllook for that money at the end of their FA deals.
I think it was kind of brilliant, he needed the fanbase to see that NY made a very fair offer.
Yeah, Judge’s request was out there the next day, NY’s offer would have been also. It’s just business, on both sides.
Cashman has been around so long, he can do things however he wants. What GM has lasted 25 years in the same job? Must be a few but I am too old to remember anything.
Answering myself now. Ed Barrow served 23 years as Yankee GM after fleeing Boston.
I understand your point fully, but I think the point is they are not going to get a deal done, now (obviously) or after the season either. Judge is asking for at least 9/324, not coming down off that during three weeks of negotiations, and so Cashman has essentially been forced to move on.
And if he leaves in FA, they will almost certainly come out much farther ahead.
Come out ahead how? The previous seasons are gone, they don't matter in this context. Albert Pujols meant at least as much to St. Louis as Judge does to the Yankees, but he also got to FA at an older age (leaving aside the rumors that he is actually even older) and STL smartly let another team pay him 10/240 for a grand total of 12 WAR.
Many fans are never convinced of this. I bet Kay and Franscesca were taking calls about how the Yankees should have beat Seattle's offer to Cano right up until he started failing PED tests.
I think they were ignoring that and thanking him for the awesome years he spent in STL previously.
True. But some of those Midwestern fans are too nice. They are different than fans in the northeast.
They were thanking him for signing that albatross deal with a team other than own. What’s better than having a superstar in his prime and then letting someone else massively overpay for his decline? It’s nothing but good memories for STL fans.
