NFL Week 15 Game Thread

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How can you have that long to make a decision and then do that?
Gotta be locking in on the receiver, right? Bryant had a step on the defender but Moore never looked for the safety coming the other way.


Pulling Cassel mid game was moronic. The time to get your QB choice right is 6 days before the game. And even if Cassel is stinking does anyone think things are going to go better with the guy who didn't get starter practice snaps that week?
 

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Pulling Cassel mid game was moronic. The time to get your QB choice right is 6 days before the game. And even if Cassel is stinking does anyone think things are going to go better with the guy who didn't get starter practice snaps that week?
Are you suggesting, therefore, that it's never the right thing for a team to do?
 

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It's not a Cowboys thing. I've hated him since his days at USC.
OK, now I understand. I was trying to figure out some connection with the Boys. I never gave a crap about Carroll until he started coaching my team.

I hate the Steelers because I lived there for years and understand the moronic fan mentality there and because Super Bowl XL.

I hate the Cowboys because they had so many bandwagon fans growing up in the 70s and 80s it just made me ill.

But if the Seahawks want to win their division, it's going to be dependent on Cowboys and Steelers wins and Bengals and Saints losses.
 

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It's not a Cowboys thing. I've hated him since his days at USC.
I've hated him since his three year stint as the Patriots head coach; he inherited a Super Bowl team and did shit with them.

Then Belichick inherited his mess and the rest as they say is history.
 

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Are you suggesting, therefore, that it's never the right thing for a team to do?
Pretty much. Preparation and familiarity matters so much. The coaches should know what the QBs can do based on practice before the game starts. When was the last time a team benched a QB in the first half for performance and everything ended up OK? Kind of like the bullpen by committee thing, setting expectations matters both for the QBs and for the rest of the offense.

If the coaches pull a QB in the first half they made a really bad decision the Monday before. IMO.
 

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Pretty much. Preparation and familiarity matters so much. The coaches should know what the QBs can do based on practice before the game starts. When was the last time a team benched a QB in the first half for performance and everything ended up OK? Kind of like the bullpen by committee thing, setting expectations matters both for the QBs and for the rest of the offense.

If the coaches pull a QB in the first half they made a really bad decision the Monday before. IMO.
But Cassell has been putrid for weeks now. I think the staff knew they were going to pull him if nothing changed from previous weeks.
 

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But Cassell has been putrid for weeks now. I think the staff knew they were going to pull him if nothing changed from previous weeks.
There were reports from Ed Werder and Pro Football Talk that they were set to make the change if Cassel continued to suck. Wasn't a surprise.

ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk 3h3 hours ago
Cowboys are indeed planning to yank Matt Cassel for Kellen Moore if Cassel struggles tonight, per source.
 

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But Cassell has been putrid for weeks now. I think the staff knew they were going to pull him if nothing changed from previous weeks.
I don't disagree, but then Garrett should have made Moore the starter last week. You're inviting chaos by switching midgame. And there's a reasonable chance you end up with Cassell again soon anyway.


Honestly how is McFadden an RB not a WR. Tallest RB in the NFL?
 

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There were reports from Ed Werder and Pro Football Talk that they were set to make the change if Cassel continued to suck. Wasn't a surprise.

ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk 3h3 hours ago
Cowboys are indeed planning to yank Matt Cassel for Kellen Moore if Cassel struggles tonight, per source.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
No NFL staff pulls a QB out of the blue, even if he sucks for a quarter.
 

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OK, now I understand. I was trying to figure out some connection with the Boys. I never gave a crap about Carroll until he started coaching my team.

I hate the Steelers because I lived there for years and understand the moronic fan mentality there and because Super Bowl XL.

I hate the Cowboys because they had so many bandwagon fans growing up in the 70s and 80s it just made me ill.

But if the Seahawks want to win their division, it's going to be dependent on Cowboys and Steelers wins and Bengals and Saints losses.
Playoff scenarios make strange bedfellows. I won't hold it against you. Though I'm not sure how the Cowboys beating the Jets helps the Seahawks.
 

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I don't disagree, but then Garrett should have made Moore the starter last week. You're inviting chaos by switching midgame. And there's a reasonable chance you end up with Cassell again soon anyway.
But that assumes that the staff has no idea what Moore would do. Maybe, Moore showed well taking snaps along with Cassell, making the staff confident enough for a possible switch.
 

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A TD here and I think Jets season may be finished.

Makes that Patriots game a bit less dangerous.
I think it obviously becomes very hard for them to make it based on the remaining opponents of their nearest rivals. But that doesn't mean they will be mailing it in at home vs. the Pats. They won't be mathematically eliminated and the coaching staff will be hammering them with anything can happen, they are writing us off, etc. Maybe they fold if they get down early, but probably not.
 

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Pretty much. Preparation and familiarity matters so much. The coaches should know what the QBs can do based on practice before the game starts. When was the last time a team benched a QB in the first half for performance and everything ended up OK? Kind of like the bullpen by committee thing, setting expectations matters both for the QBs and for the rest of the offense.

If the coaches pull a QB in the first half they made a really bad decision the Monday before. IMO.
I agree there's a bullpen analogy here, but it's more akin to a slow hook, not committee IMO. Pulling a QB for performance mid-game isn't always about that game. In this case it surely isn't; figuring out whether Moore can come on in relief in a big spot and be the backup next year is worth finding out for Dallas. Romo could go down anytime and Moore would need to play without having taken all the practice snaps.

Studying Moore in the situation he'll have to deal with as a backup is smart by Garrett.
 

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Playoff scenarios make strange bedfellows. I won't hold it against you. Though I'm not sure how the Cowboys beating the Jets helps the Seahawks.
Tiebreakers with the Cardinals are going to come down to strength of victory and the Hawks trail in that right now. The teams Seattle has faced and beaten that are different from the Cardinals are the Cowboys and Steelers. The Cardinals have the Bengals and Saints.
 

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I agree there's a bullpen analogy here, but it's more akin to a slow hook, not committee IMO. Pulling a QB for performance mid-game isn't always about that game. In this case it surely isn't; figuring out whether Moore can come on in relief in a big spot and be the backup next year is worth finding out for Dallas. Romo could go down anytime and Moore would need to play without having taken all the practice snaps.

Studying Moore in the situation he'll have to deal with as a backup is smart by Garrett.
Yes fair point.
And that assumes some decrease in the chances of winning this game to better plan for the future.
 

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Big time players make big plays in big games. I'm looking at you, pro bowler, Fitzpatrick
 

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"The little rub play"; ie, OPI that wasn't called.

That's just all sorts of fucking awesome.

Nice drive spinach chin, you fucking dickhead.