NFL Week 15 Game Thread

luckiestman

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Yeah, I think it came down to Green Bay having to beat the Jets, but Green Bay had already clinched a playoff spot and they only played scrubs.

This was 2002, I think. A bunch of shit went right for the Jets and they pasted Manning in the playoffs 41-0. But then they lost to the raiders on the road.

Pats lost the early game to Miami or something. Something weird where three afc east teams were tied at 9-7 and the "play to win the game" Jets had the tiebreaker
 

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If Thompkins had stayed in bounds they would have kicked with no time left. Probably doesn't matter. Still, situational football and all that.
 

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He'll make it. But the defense will allow the Jets to drive right down the field and kick the game winning field goal with no time left.
Didn't think they'd leave any time left but the rest of this, well, it is the Cowboys. I've seen this movie a few times.
 

luckiestman

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WORKIN 9-5, everybody picked us to be last in the division
Let's see, Jets being 9-5 and 2 games to win to get yourself a PO spot.

I've seen this movie before.

We don't control anything though. If KC and Pitt win out, I think we're out even in the unlikely event that we beat Tom and the MASH unit
 

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Go to New Jersey next week, beat these assholes, knock them out of the playoffs and clinch HFA throughout the playoffs all in one shot.

Make it happen Patriots.
 

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Good news is Steelers know they have no margin for error. Jets will be in the playoffs. Solid team that could win a game or two once there.
 

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Sure would have liked more than one quick look at the possible Fitzpatrick fumble...Simms was too busy stumbling all over himself..
 

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Sure would have liked more than one quick look at the possible Fitzpatrick fumble...Simms was too busy stumbling all over himself..
I thought it was a fumble but given the call was down by contact and it was close I wasn't surprised they left it alone.
 

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Oh yeah, so HARD to be a Dallas fan. OH the pain, 3 superbowls in 4 years not too long ago. You guys ham it up like you root for the Cubs.

Hey now, don't sell being a Jets fan short, you won that Super Bowl back when the earth was flat, Christ was in a crib and VD was a thing. You've been to four AFCCG's since; ok, so you lost all four, but your riding high this year. Make sure you order that DVD "Spinach chin led us to a successful season only because our starting QB got knocked unconscious in training camp; the story of the 2015 New York Jets".......................
 

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Good news is Steelers know they have no margin for error. Jets will be in the playoffs. Solid team that could win a game or two once there.
The Jets? They are one of the worst 9-5 teams ever. One game against a team with a winning record. It's laughable that they are in this position.
 

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Good news is Steelers know they have no margin for error. Jets will be in the playoffs. Solid team that could win a game or two once there.
Jets wins:

Miami (x2)
Cleveland
Indianapolis
Jacksonville
Tennessee
Washington
NY Football Giants
Dallas

All teams under .500. Of course, they could make the playoffs and play an 8-8 or 7-9 team in the first game.
 

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The Jets? They are one of the worst 9-5 teams ever. One game against a team with a winning record. It's laughable that they are in this position.
So by this logic, the Pats are one of the worst 11-2 teams ever?
 

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Please don't compare anything about the Jets to the Patriots.

One legitimate loss by the Patriots with massive injuries.

Jets win tonight was an awful performance. Almost lost to a team with as bad quarterback play as is possible in 2015.
 

luckiestman

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Please don't compare anything about the Jets to the Patriots.

One legitimate loss by the Patriots with massive injuries.

Jets win tonight was an awful performance. Almost lost to a team with as bad quarterback play as is possible in 2015.

You write like you're in a cult. Guy said the Jets were one of the worst 9-5 teams ever because they played a soft schedule. Maybe, I don't even disagree with that. However, if that is the decision rule, the Pats have only played 3 teams with winning records and one of those three is "one of the worst teams ever with a 9-5 record."
 

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Jets wins:

Miami (x2)
Cleveland
Indianapolis
Jacksonville
Tennessee
Washington
NY Football Giants
Dallas

All teams under .500. Of course, they could make the playoffs and play an 8-8 or 7-9 team in the first game.
You can only play your schedule. Fitzpatrick has had a very solid season, Marshall/Decker are a very good WR tandem, Ivory has been good, and their defense is legit. They also went into NE and gave a healthy Pats team a hell of a game. I'm not sleeping on this team.
 

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I would if I could find one. Most I talk to are BBBs (Belichick Brady Bandwagoneers who say they are done with the NFL when those guys are done)
Please. I've been following the Patriots since before Joe Kapp.

Bandwagoner Patriots Fans?!?!

Please spare us the above nonsense. Yes the Jets have a decent team. Tonight was a gift victory. Nothing to celebrate except a win is a win in the NFL. 3 picks VS. 1 along with at least 1 fumble called down by contact. To me the Decker play was certainly a fumble and the Fitzpatrick play could have gone either way. Either one is ruled a fumble and the game almost certainly is a Jets loss.

The vaunted run defense was scorched pretty badly despite a pitiful Cassell and a weak armed slow footed undrafted guy that some would have guessed might never throw an NFL pass.

Take the win, move on and clam up, dude
 

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You can only play your schedule. Fitzpatrick has had a very solid season, Marshall/Decker are a very good WR tandem, Ivory has been good, and their defense is legit. They also went into NE and gave a healthy Pats team a hell of a game. I'm not sleeping on this team.
This is about where I am.

In fact, in the playoffs I'd take Pittsburgh and its porous defense over a feisty Jets team with a good secondary, strong front-four, and both Ivory/Powell running hard.
 

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There was nothing "gift" about this win.
It's also not fair to say Jets are a "bad" 9-5 team. When you're 9-5, you're pretty good how you slice it.
The holiday drinking has started in earnest.

On the one hand, I have seen a handful of posts from people thinking of moving on after BB/Brady retire. Maybe fewer.

On the other, can we stop with the schedule nonsense? It has popped up in the Carolina discussion and represents people sling shooting pebbles from a giant glass house. Last I checked the schedules of both the pats and jets are chock full of teams from the AFC South and NFC East.

The bottom line on the Jets is they have improved markedly over last year. They have a professional coach. They traded a 7th round pick that has become a 6th for Fitzpatrick. They traded a 5th for Marshall and a 7th. Effectively, then, they essentially traded a 5th round pick + for Fitz and Marshall, both of whom have made the team significantly better.
 

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The Jets are a more disciplined team, with a more organized/focused coach and with a better/smarter QB that doesn't screw-up too much, that runs a decent offense. Pair that with a good D-they're a good team. BUT last night was not an impressive win, but as we know awinzawin.

Can they be a pain in the ass in the post-seaon if they get there? Yup. Are they a team to respect? Yup. Are they a team to take seriously? Yup. But are they a team to really fear? I don't think so.
 

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I certainly don't "fear" the Jets but they have the ingredients to make things very tough for whoever they play. But they're going to have to survive the top team in the conference and a Rex SB so we shall see.
 

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Any team that wins a wild card is, by definition, good enough to make mischief in the playoffs. This year's Jets have that sort of potential. They are not, however, the sort of #6 seed (like the 2010 Packers or 2005 Steelers) that has more than a snowball's chance of winning three straight road games in January.
 

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Any team that wins a wild card is, by definition, good enough to make mischief in the playoffs. This year's Jets have that sort of potential. They are not, however, the sort of #6 seed (like the 2010 Packers or 2005 Steelers) that has more than a snowball's chance of winning three straight road games in January.
I guess my question is why not? Nobody thought the 2012 Ravens would do what they did. Say the Jets get the 5 seed and play Indy in Round 1. That would be a game they could easily be favored in. Then, say they go on the road against a Dalton-less Bengals team or an overrated Broncos team. They wouldn't be favored but could certainly play a competitive game and win a tight one. And then say they go to Foxboro for the AFCCG. Pats would be favorites but it sure wouldn't be a cakewalk, especially if Edelman isn't able to come back to close to his old effectiveness. Pats are the best team in the AFC but there really isn't much difference between teams 2-6 given the injury situations. And if the nightmare scenario happens where the Pats get upset in the Divisional Round would open things up even further.
 

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If the Jets make the playoffs, they should be taken seriously, no doubt about it. This organization has been an annoying pain in the balls to me as a Patriots fan for about 20 years, 1986 or so to be precise. This particular version is extremely annoying; they are where they are because their starting QB got his lights punched out, so spinach chin steps in, pulls a career year out of his ass and here they are, sitting at 9-5.

That game next week is going to be a war, I'll feel a lot better about it if Denver loses this week and the Bengals lose next week; if that is the case, a loss in New Jersey will mean shit.

I hope the Patriots go there and curb stomp these assholes and the "Wot a party....haw, haw, haw!!!" jackass from 2001 is there to see it.
 

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I guess my question is why not? Nobody thought the 2012 Ravens would do what they did. Say the Jets get the 5 seed and play Indy in Round 1. That would be a game they could easily be favored in. Then, say they go on the road against a Dalton-less Bengals team or an overrated Broncos team. They wouldn't be favored but could certainly play a competitive game and win a tight one. And then say they go to Foxboro for the AFCCG. Pats would be favorites but it sure wouldn't be a cakewalk, especially if Edelman isn't able to come back to close to his old effectiveness. Pats are the best team in the AFC but there really isn't much difference between teams 2-6 given the injury situations. And if the nightmare scenario happens where the Pats get upset in the Divisional Round would open things up even further.
Why not? Because while anything is possible, the Jets are likely to be a slight underdog against the Dalton-less Bengals, a double-digit underdog in Foxboro, and probably a touchdown underdog against whoever they'd face in the AFCCG. The odds of them pulling that trifecta are somewhere in the low single-digits. (Obviously, those odds are a bit better if the Jets beat out KC for the #5 seed, but I think that's unlikely -- the Chiefs are likely to win their last two games.)

If NE gets the top seed, the worst scenario is a CIN win over PIT/NYJ, which probably would mean KC-NE in the divisional round. The Chiefs have looked terrific in the second half, and it's a bad matchup for the Pats (which we learned in that infamous MNF game last year).