The worst move was to sub out Drew. I could care less about his bat. I want him in the field. I said it in the top half of the inning it was a mistake and it turned out correct. He makes that play to start the inning off.
RedOctober3829 said:The worst move was to sub out Drew. I could care less about his bat. I want him in the field. I said it in the top half of the inning it was a mistake and it turned out correct. He makes that play to start the inning off.
Except WMBs defense isn't great. Xander-Drew is a better combo.smastroyin said:Presumably part of this move was to get WMB's defense in. I would love to know how they ended up with him in such lousy position if they intended to use him that way.
Bringing Doubront in there isn't the issue. Taking him out when he was cruising is the head scratcher.Dummy Hoy said:Given all the concern for Buchholz tomorrow, especially after hearing reports of how he looked throwing today, why the hell would you burn Doubront today when Clay may need someone sooner?
This was my biggest issue of the night. I don't really care about the Workman call because they clearly intended on him going another inning, and you can save Napoli for WMB or a pitcher later.RedOctober3829 said:Farrell had multiple fireable moves tonight. His absolute worst game of the season. Mike Napoli not getting a chance in the 9th while letting Brandon Workman(?????????) hit is not acceptable. So is taking out Drew. His fielding positioning with WMB on Holliday's hit in the 7th. Not walking the bases loaded in the 9th to pitch to .550 OPS Pete Kozma.
I don't complain about this crap much, but there was move after move after move that made absolutely no sense. Get it together.
Paul M said:Have to think Morales as frightening as the prospect is, might need to be an early option given St. Louis' relative performance vs. LH. Doubront could go another 25-30 pitches I guess, but how many times has he had to come back after throwing 25 pitches like tonight? And what can you expect from Workman again since he threw 30 pitches. Just hoping Buchholz can summon the strength a la Pedro in 1999 to give them 6 strong innings. A 4 or 5 inning outing two nights in a row would be very difficult to manage especially with the pitcher having to bat.
I honestly can't even ken what an appropriate response to this would look like.JimD said:I'd love to know what John Henry is thinking right now about Farrell's performance. He cannot be happy with what he is seeing.
JakeRae said:I fail to understand how anyone can argue that not walking Jay contributed to losing the game. Jay hit a ground ball that was fielded, a play was made at the plate, and there should've been 2 outs and runners on the corners. That's pretty much exactly what you are hoping for in that situation (it's not much different from a strikeout or pop up). Now, it may have been the wrong decision, I certainly won't argue that. Especially considering Uehara's command, it's hard to argue against setting up the double play. But, the decision, even if wrong, was not a factor in losing the game. The factors in losing the game were Salty making a terrible decision, Middlebrooks not coming off the bag to make sure that ball stays in front of him, and the umps decision to call obstruction. As for that last point, we have a thread on the subject already, and it probably should stay out of this thread, but it can't be ignored as a factor independent of the question of if it was correct.
Paul M said:Dempster is the first man? Oh boy...we're f*cked barring Clay dealing a miracle. St. Louis hits RHP very well; Ryan Dempster was horse-crap vs. RH hitters like Holliday, Molina, and even Freese. Maybe out of the pen he's more effective, but you can't expect a very effective multi-inning performance. So, lifting Doubront arguably prematurely for Game 4 is not a rationale. Relying on Dempster for the 5th-7th innings is just too risky. It's also just harder to get one of these performances in a close game in an NL park.
Agreed. Farrell started shitting all over this game from the moment he filled out a lineup card with Salty's name in it til' the 9th. Just horrendous all aroundbrs3 said:This game was easily the worst managed postseason game I've ever witnessed. The comedy of errors by Farrell is deafening, and I can only hope the team rallies around the idea of an injustice rather than notice the incompetence of a manager to compete in an NL ballpark. It's like Farrell took a day off.
I rarely criticize a manager. Tonight's game was a head scratcher early and often. The umps didn't blow this game, JF did.