Game 6 at Toronto

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Neither of these teams are good. The last two games were coin flips with fluky goals. Not sure what all the “fire Monty” is about. This team was never going anywhere.
When you’re up 3-1, you should be able to close out a series. 91% of teams up 3-1 close it out. Last year the Bruins fell into the 9%. To do it again a year later is inexcusable.
 

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When you’re up 3-1, you should be able to close out a series. 91% of teams up 3-1 close it out. Last year the Bruins fell into the 9%. To do it again a year later is inexcusable.
Yeah, and they lost in OT and were down 1-0 on a fluky deflection goal. I get it. They have no forward depth. Coyle is C1. This was a bridge year and they over performed.
 

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Neither of these teams are good. The last two games were coin flips with fluky goals. Not sure what all the “fire Monty” is about. This team was never going anywhere.
I’m right with you outside that I’d probably be fine with Monty being gone after this. Prefer to keep him but wouldn’t be crushed. This team has no top end offensive talent outside one superstar and a 36 year old.

All still premature and I found it laughable with a bunch of other descriptors that are no longer allowed that people were despondent not just for the game but the series after the second period. Pretty sure most people would’ve been in Montreal actively looking to bash the Civic after Game 2 in 2011.
 

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And that was the only game on tonight so I cant even watch another game as a palette cleanser.
 

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They haven’t blown anything yet Felix.
He’s talking about last year. The one in which the same “They don’t have enough talent, though,” explanation for pretty much the same phenomenon doesn’t really work.
 

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He’s talking about last year. The one in which the same “They don’t have enough talent, though,” explanation for pretty much the same phenomenon doesn’t really work.
I’m not sure Florida was the inferior team lat year either.
 

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They did blow a 3-1, what are you on about. The series is tied
Yeah, was just saying they haven’t lost the series yet, despite the macabre tone in here. Enjoy the night folks!
 

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I’m not sure Florida was the inferior team lat year either.
Then you could never be sure of anything. The Bruins blew the league away in points last year and were favored going into that series. They finished ahead of Toronto this year, and were favored going into this series (although it’s much closer). So basically, you’re left complaining that the Bruins in both years simply didn’t have enough talent to beat lower seeds. Drastically lower last year, a team that barely snuck into the playoffs, and you’re not convinced that the Bruins were better.

You’re not arguing variance in short series for both years; you’re arguing talent level. It’s a take, I guess.
 

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Yankees! and (ironically) Bruins. Also three other times in the NHL.

It’s never happened in the NBA. Kind of interesting to look into.
Yeah, I was at the Bruins's Game 7 loss, but it doesn't count because they won the Cup the next year.
 

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When you’re up 3-1, you should be able to close out a series. 91% of teams up 3-1 close it out. Last year the Bruins fell into the 9%. To do it again a year later is inexcusable.
On the other hand if they keep blowing 3-1 series leads the percentage won’t look so bad anymore.
 

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This is how the last 2 series with Toronto went btw. Exact same order of wins/losses. Hopefully this ends the same.
 

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Well this is awkward. After basically swearing off this team last night and thinking I might not even watch much of game 7, I just fell into decent tickets. My wife and I had a conversation about whether we should go, knowing that we could end up witnessing ignominious history - but of course we'll be there.
 

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Well this is awkward. After basically swearing off this team last night and thinking I might not even watch much of game 7, I just fell into decent tickets. My wife and I had a conversation about whether we should go, knowing that we could end up witnessing ignominious history - but of course we'll be there.
 

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Then you could never be sure of anything. The Bruins blew the league away in points last year and were favored going into that series. They finished ahead of Toronto this year, and were favored going into this series (although it’s much closer). So basically, you’re left complaining that the Bruins in both years simply didn’t have enough talent to beat lower seeds. Drastically lower last year, a team that barely snuck into the playoffs, and you’re not convinced that the Bruins were better.

You’re not arguing variance in short series for both years; you’re arguing talent level. It’s a take, I guess.
Well, to start, Felix and I were talking about this year.

On last year though, the Bruins blew it for sure. Florida got hot and was very talented though as we saw with them almost winning the Cup and being a favorite this year and one of the best teams in the NHL. The Bruins were better than them in the regular season, obviously, as Florida took time after the trade to come together, but they were a wagon come the playoffs. If the Bs had beaten them, I think they would have won the whole thing. Was my biggest post-2004 sports disappointment aside from 18-1.

I don’t want to see the Bruins lose this series. If they do, I don’t think you fire Montgomery for it. I’d argue they over-performed this year in what was a bridge year and this postseason is all gravy. I also think both of these teams are likely to be swept next round.
 

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I don’t want to see the Bruins lose this series. If they do, I don’t think you fire Montgomery for it. I’d argue they over-performed this year in what was a bridge year and this postseason is all gravy. I also think both of these teams are likely to be swept next round.
I agree with the first part, but I don't see the Bruins losing 4 in a row next round. Let's hope we find out.
 

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I don’t want to see the Bruins lose this series. If they do, I don’t think you fire Montgomery for it. I’d argue they over-performed this year in what was a bridge year and this postseason is all gravy. I also think both of these teams are likely to be swept next round.
Monty has helped deliver great results in the regular season 2 years in a row.
Monty has helped deliver poor (arguably atrocious if they lose Saturday) results in the playoffs 2 years in a row.

If he can't help them deliver great results in the playoffs, he needs to go, unless the organization is happy to just get great results in the regular season (which hopefully is not the case).
 

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Monty has helped deliver great results in the regular season 2 years in a row.
Monty has helped deliver poor (arguably atrocious if they lose Saturday) results in the playoffs 2 years in a row.

If he can't help them deliver great results in the playoffs, he needs to go, unless the organization is happy to just get great results in the regular season (which hopefully is not the case).
Yeah, I get it. Just don’t think you fire him on such a small sample size with two very different teams. Not sure the results are correlated.
 

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Yeah, I get it. Just don’t think you fire him on such a small sample size with two very different teams. Not sure the results are correlated.
I really don't get the "he has to be fired" talk, but I get everyone's emotions are insanely high.
 

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Yeah, I get it. Just don’t think you fire him on such a small sample size with two very different teams. Not sure the results are correlated.
Understood and while I would disagree with it, I can see the case for keeping him (based on regular season results). What I struggle with more, is that we're seeing very similar things in the post season this year so its worrisome that he's not learning fast enough or he is learrning but the players aren't responding. Either way its enough for me to move on.
 

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I'm definitely guilty of some emotional and recency bias, but add in this is the second year with similar things and I'm ready to move on.
And that's what you do in hockey. Monty will just be the next one to go in a long line of them.

Save for 2011, this has been going one for a very long time. This isn't new with this team, unfortunately.

Just fire him after we win The Cup this year.
 

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On the bright side, it’s great to be a fan of a team that generally does pretty well in the regular season and consistently makes the playoffs.
 

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On the bright side, it’s great to be a fan of a team that generally does pretty well in the regular season and consistently makes the playoffs.
It’s even better to be a fan of a team that has been eliminated per folks here but gets to still play Game 7 regardless.