EPL Survivor Pool

Which pool option do you prefer

  • A) One team to win or draw each week, must pick new team each week, resets for second half

    Votes: 1 14.3%
  • B) One team to win or draw each week, must pick new team each week, pool for 1st & 2nd halves

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • C) One team to win or draw each week, each team may be picked up to 2x, one pool for season

    Votes: 6 85.7%

  • Total voters
    7

candylandriots

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Hey guys - I'll update everyone on the competition probably tomorrow. But I did want to pass on some sad news. I don't think any of you knew him, but Marcos Rios from our pool passed away this weekend. You'd have a hard time finding a kinder, gentler man than Marcos. I had just gotten him into soccer because he has a 7-month old baby, and I think it's kind of the law for new dads who are sports fans, right? Even better, Marcos decided to support Palace with me, and I got his son a CP onesie (and have a great picture of them watching the game together in it). Marcos was a lifelong Sox and Pats fan, and grew up in Southbridge, MA. One of my favorite memories with him was seeing the Sox and Yankees in London together.

There is zero obligation to do anything like this, but if anyone wants to chip in a small contribution to his son Gabe's college fund, you can do it here (and I'm amazed at how much it's grown in a single day).

https://gofund.me/f57e76c6

Full disclosure: my wife and I are not contributing to the GFM, but are going to do something separate for Gabe.
 

candylandriots

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Things looking pretty good for Ronny right now. I had Southamption in my spreadsheet, but remembered I didn't send myself an email with a pick to have proof, and decided to change to Manchester United. Galaxy brain in action apparently.

If this ends this weekend (which is looking quite possible), would you guys prefer to do a new pool right away, or wait until the second half of the season?
 

teddykgb

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You had it backwards btw. I gladly chose United because either I got through or I got to laugh because United lost to Watford. It was a win/win
 

candylandriots

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Did we decide on rules for draws?
Do you mean for drawn games or if Spurs/Ronny lose tomorrow?

If the former...we haven't decided anything. I get what people are saying regarding the "feel" about players advancing with draws. But at the same time, this thing is going to be over before 1/3 of the season has been played. Do we need to make it harder?

If the latter...I guess we can either have a discussion among the three last player whether to keep going or split the money.
 

DJnVa

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Do you mean for drawn games or if Spurs/Ronny lose tomorrow?

If the former...we haven't decided anything. I get what people are saying regarding the "feel" about players advancing with draws. But at the same time, this thing is going to be over before 1/3 of the season has been played. Do we need to make it harder?
I'll go with whatever is decided. I just meant it we may start next week, I wanted to know what they rules were.
 

candylandriots

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Just sent this email out to the players, but copying here if there is wider interest:

Hello Everyone

Well, it's all over...at least the first one. Congratulations to Ronny S., who like his native Canada, sits atop our CONCACAFish competition here. Ronny, you should receive your winnings shortly.

There seems to be interest in doing another round (or two) of this. So, a few questions for everyone:

1) Do you want to start in Week 13, or start at the midpoint of the season?
2) Should we have any rule changes?
a) Fewer than two picks per team in a shorter round
b) A penalty for picking teams that draw. The best suggestion I've seen is that if you pick two teams that draw in a row, you'd be eliminated.

My personal view is that this was difficult enough as it was, cleaning everyone out after only 12 weeks, and I don't think that we need any real changes. But if there is a strong view, I'm certainly open to making some changes.

It would be great to get some additional players into the game as well, so feel free to share this among friends that may be interested.

If you want to get things started again right away, please let me know in the next couple of days...Otherwise, we can start it at the midway point of the season (after week 19).

Thanks for playing and good luck next time around.
 

Morgan's Magic Snowplow

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Congrats to Ronny! Is he a SOSH member? I have trouble linking real names to SOSH handles.

And big thanks to Jeff for running this thing and offering to do it again, even in the face of a terrible tragedy.

I'm up for going again.

My gut instinct is not to mess with the rule regarding draws, as my worry would be that this would incentivize people just to completely frontload the best teams rather than taking some calculated risks on lower table sides and that would make it a little boring. But I don't have strong feelings and will go with anything.

I'm happy to start now or mid-season. If we started now, how would it work in terms of the number of times you could pick each team? Allowing two picks per team might be too much, as you could go through the rest of the season without ever selecting any of the relegation-threatened sides. Maybe we can only pick each team once and then if the league is somehow still going 20 weeks from now then we figure out some kind of system for weeks 33-38?
 

CPT Neuron

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Congrats, Ronny...

Let's run it back - not sure I would change the rules if we start up immediately, but can see the logic of making a few caveats (maybe you can only pick a team a second time after all teams have been picked once?). If we wait and start at the half-way point, I'd suggest that a player can only choose a team once.
 

candylandriots

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First off, Ronny is not a member here. He has the distinction of being one of the few people I genuinely liked at my old company and probably the first person that I really discussed soccer with. We worked together for many years (him in Toronto, me in New York), and he's the rare finance person that I'm happy to stay in touch with. On the negative side for Ronny, he's a Toronto FC, Chelsea and Lazio fan (that one is by birth), so adjust your opinions of him accordingly (in his defense, I'm completely sure he's not a fascist, and I remember him sounding apologetic about it to me before I knew their history and he didn't know that I was clueless then.) I can't defend the Chelsea thing though, because that was 100% his own choice. His father either is or was on the Toronto FC board, so I forgive him that one.

Seems like the bit of feedback that I've gotten is that people are eager to start again. I think we take this week off, and start at week 14. Hopefully this will give us a chance to get a few more participants as well. I think that since we will be starting with 24 weeks left in the season, 2x per team is still ok. Does anyone have strong objections? And advance with win or draw?

Thanks for your feedback and participation. Ideally, we will can get enough players recruited for next season that we can go a whole season and not need to restart. That would be my goal anyway.
 

OCST

Sunny von Bulow
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It's fun. i'm in whatever the rules.

Suggestions and that's all they are:

-Draw is ok but you must win the next week. 2 draws in a row = out.
-Can pick a team 2x but second pick must be a win - if you're going to go back to the well you can't skate with a draw.
 

Dummy Hoy

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Jul 22, 2006
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It's fun. i'm in whatever the rules.

Suggestions and that's all they are:

-Draw is ok but you must win the next week. 2 draws in a row = out.
-Can pick a team 2x but second pick must be a win - if you're going to go back to the well you can't skate with a draw.
I don't care for the first suggestion but love the second. Unless that makes it much harder on @candylandriots
 

candylandriots

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Just sent out this email to the participants of round 1. For those Gazzers that didn't play the first time around, you should get in! I think that it was enjoyed by pretty much everyone.

Thank you all for your feedback. We are going to take this week off, and then start again in Week 14. This is partly because I'm moving on Tuesday and things will be hectic enough, partly to give everyone a break and time to strategize and partly so you guys can hopefully have some time to recruit some additional players.

I am not going to make any changes to the rules this time around. You can still pick each team up to twice. Ideally, I'd like to get this thing large enough for next season that we can hopefully go an entire season through instead of lasting only 12 weeks. That might mean some rule tweaks then. The best suggestion that I've seen is that if you pick a team a second time, they have to win instead of just draw. We will talk all that out before the new season starts, but for now, we will have exactly the same rules as the first time around.

Entry fee is still $20 to jkempa@yahoo.com via PayPal. Please make NO MENTION of the pool/gambling.

If you have any questions, please do let me know. Please try and get some new folks to join as well! The more the merrier!

Thank you all!
Jeff
 

Jimy Hendrix

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I think I'm out for this one, too many other balls in the air at this time.

It was super fun though, I'll probably do more in the future and encourage anyone reading and thinking "hrmmm" to throw in.
 

candylandriots

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And sorry to keep banging this drum, but we're missing a lot of players from the first time around. So hopefully you're all just waiting for the last minute ;)

Apologies for my disorganization though the past few weeks with getting this restarted. The pool will run more smoothly than getting it restarted has been.
 

Joe Sixpack

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And sorry to keep banging this drum, but we're missing a lot of players from the first time around. So hopefully you're all just waiting for the last minute ;)

Apologies for my disorganization though the past few weeks with getting this restarted. The pool will run more smoothly than getting it restarted has been.
Just sent mine