StuckOnYouk said:
Yes, but I don't buy into this theory that some of you have that Ellsbury's injuries don't count. Guess what. He might have more collisions in his future.
That's fine. I recognize that it is not a stance that everyone agrees with and there are valid reasons to disagree with it. However, pointing to cumulative counting stat figures to rebut the proposition that they are similar players once the injuries are accounted for makes no sense. Also, that 3-year WAR/650 PA figure, which shows Ellsbury being a bit better than Cano, doesn't completely ignore his injuries. His performance in 2012 was significantly impacted by his shoulder injury and that is part of that comparison.
As for the collisions thing, so might any player. Unless Ellsbury is more likely to suffer collision injuries than Cano, the fact that either might suffer them is irrelevant. But, to argue against myself, Ellsbury's basestealing and position both probably make him marginally more likely to suffer a collision based injury. I just think the significance of that impact is vanishingly small on how the two players should be valued.
Also, my personal impressions are adjusted a bit relative to the rate stats for Cano's consistency and some discounting of Ellsbury's 2011. Thus, I am not arguing that Ellsbury is better. In fact, I'll even accept an argument that Cano is more valuable. It's just, IMHO, not a very big value gap and nowhere near as large as what it sounds like their pay gap is going to be.