2016 NFL Coaching Carousel

[amfox1]

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 2h2 hours ago
Rams team officials are unable to get out of Boston, where they interviewed Josh McDaniels, in time to meet with Shanahan in ATL

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 3h3 hours ago
Rams interview with Kyle Shanahan, scheduled for this weekend, has been postponed due to weather issues for LA brass to get to ATL....

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 3h3 hours ago
There won't be a way to conduct the interview during this NFL-mandated window though both sides are very hopeful of finding another time...

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 2h2 hours ago
Under current NFL rules, Shanahan wouldn't be able to interview again until Super Bowl bye week should Falcons reach that stage....

 

[amfox1]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/browns-make-wholesale-changes-on-d-hire-gregg-williams-and-3-4-assistants/

The Cleveland Browns are apparently making wholesale changes to their defensive staff and they've begun by acquiring Gregg Williams to be their next defensive coordinator.

Williams will also be bringing at least three to four assistants with him as the Browns attempt to fix what was one of the NFL's worst defenses in 2016. Coach Hue Jackson was close to former defensive coordinator Ray Horton but was on board with the change.

 

[vadertime]

Its not deal, but they couldn't do the interview over Skype or something? Its better than nothing and risk losing him or having to wait.

 

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

He has specifically said that a new coach would not have to be married to Bortles as his QB. Caldwell's words, not mine.

I think Bortles is still salvageable. Dude needs a QB mechanics coach in the worst way, but IMO he's shown enough so far in his career to be worthwhile if he can be fixed.

 

[DJnVa]

Bortles also played most of year with 2 separated shoulders. He's still just 24. That said, you can't tie a new coach down there to him.

 

[Tony C]

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Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 2h2 hours ago
Under current NFL rules, Shanahan wouldn't be able to interview again until Super Bowl bye week should Falcons reach that stage....

Its not deal, but they couldn't do the interview over Skype or something? Its better than nothing and risk losing him or having to wait.

No kiddin'...

 

[mauf]

He has specifically said that a new coach would not have to be married to Bortles as his QB. Caldwell's words, not mine.

There's a difference between saying you aren't wedded to Bortles, and being willing to trade for JG, Romo (unlikely), or some other non-scrap-heap option. Absent the latter, you're stuck with Bortles -- best you can do is bring in a Fitzpatrick-type guy to push him (and take the job if you decide midseason that Bortles is unsalvageable).

 

[jsinger121]

 

[dbn]

Good luck (on Sunday), Mike.

 

[InstaFace]

That is great news for the Pats.
Really hope he stays with the NEP.
I agree with the line of thought that losing him would be worse than losing both coordinators.

Really? I thought Pioli had a much better track record, both draft-wise and in choosing FAs and reclamation projects. Caserio has some successes in that regard of course - perhaps Malcolm Butler most notably - but I think has a lower value-weighted batting average, so to speak, than Pioli did.

Firing Wade Phillips seems to be the primary symptom of an organization which overestimates its talent on the field. Man I would take him as my D.C. Any day of the week. I honestly believe that he is the best Defensive coordinator not named Bill Belichick of the last 30 years.

We should have a thread about this, and about head coaches.

 

[koufax32]

Another JAX update: Local people (radio guys, Tony Boselli) are saying the team is narrowing its search to a defensive minded coach. I assume McD is either out or saw he wouldn't be a fit for whatever reason. One bullet dodged If true.

 

[jsinger121]

Another JAX update: Local people (radio guys, Tony Boselli) are saying the team is narrowing its search to a defensive minded coach. I assume McD is either out or saw he wouldn't be a fit for whatever reason. One bullet dodged If true.

Mike Smith is the leader for that job.

 

[Kenny F'ing Powers]

Good luck (on Sunday), Mike.

Thanks, asshole. I'm trying to be productive on this fine Monday, and I just spent an hour watching Patriots defensive highlights from a decade ago.

 

[mauf]

Mike Smith is the leader for that job.

You've got to be fucking kidding me.

Guess I was right about Caldwell being part of the problem.

 

[Ale Xander]

I don't know if Vrabel is ready for a head coach but I'd be on board bringing him here if Patricia leaves, in some capacity

Speaking of which, who's the expected in-house coach to promote to DC?

 

[Super Nomario]

I don't know if Vrabel is ready for a head coach but I'd be on board bringing him here if Patricia leaves, in some capacity

Speaking of which, who's the expected in-house coach to promote to DC?

Brian Flores is the LB coach, formerly the S coach, and would probably be the obvious option. I had the thought today that Greg Schiano might make sense if he wants to get back into the pro game. Longtime Belichick buddy, currently DC for Urban Meyer at tOSU.

 

[Tony C]

You've got to be fucking kidding me.

Guess I was right about Caldwell being part of the problem.

Smith would be a good hire for that club, I think. He's in the not-sexy category, but a solid, respected guy like Smith is probably a better fit than another young coordinator.

 

[soxhop411]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 4s4 seconds ago
Jacksonville planning to hire Doug Marrone as HC, league sources tell ESPN.

 

[jsinger121]

One less place for McDaniels.

 

[soxhop411]

Jags season ticket department should just take the rest of the offseason off.... Jags fans are not happy right now

 

[jsinger121]

 

[dcmissle]

Devil's advocate -- is this all that bad?

Seems to me that Coughlin absolutely does not belong on the sideline at this stage, but probably has something to offer. Marrone was not awful in Buffalo. Synching their contracts also makes sense.

 

[PedroKsBambino]

Devil's advocate -- is this all that bad?

Seems to me that Coughlin absolutely does not belong on the sideline at this stage, but probably has something to offer. Marrone was not awful in Buffalo. Synching their contracts also makes sense.

Agreed. It's not sexy, but they brought in a serious, proven football guy to lead things, and Marrone feels like a better bet than most of the coordinators whose names are being bandied about. I imagine they knew Caldwell was willing to work with this configuration (guessing, but Khan is no Pegula or Irsay) and so aligning their timelines and essentially saying 'you guys have this long to make it work' is also a good thing.

 

[Tony C]

I think it's a good set of hires, really. I can see how fans would want something sexier, but pretty good talent base there: I'd want to build on it rather than start over.

 

[mauf]

If Khan and Caldwell like Marrone this much, they should've made him the interim HC after the TNF debacle against the Titans (after which Bradley's fate was a foregone conclusion) and given themselves half a season to evaluate Marrone's HC chops up close -- though obviously without the benefit of him getting to assemble a staff, run a training camp, etc.

That said, I like Marrone a lot better than Smith, so I'm no longer on the ledge on my son's behalf, and I'm willing to entertain the possibility that Caldwell is the right man for the GM job.

 

[koufax32]

Coughlin was hired as well today as VP of Football Ops. Caldwell was extended too so all three men have 3 year contracts.

 

[Cellar-Door]

I think Khan is sneakily moving up the terrible owner standings. He's a dark horse, because usually you think of Snyder type bad owners who are impatient, splash big money, fire coaches and GMs at the drop of a hat.

HOWEVER, Khan and Jim Irsay are a different kind, they know that stability is good, so they chase it to an extreme, even with a pretty decent sample that their coaches and GMs are not good at their jobs, he dangled around this year when everyone knew he should have fired Bradley, and now he keeps the GM and makes an internal promotion for coach?

This move is crazy to me, nothing about the Jaguars situation said.... "let's keep this basically the same" and yet.... they kept it basically the same, but added a half-senile old man to oversee the whole thing.

 

[Michelle34B]

That is pretty harsh. I think TC needed some time away from football before he realized his coaching career was over. I don't think it would have worked with The New York Football Giants because John Mara will always have last say, and would weaken McAdoo's authority as a head coach. Marrone and TC have similar personalities, I could see the approach from that perspective.

If only we could all be so lucky to get a promotion from a job we were fired from 15 years prior.

 

[Was (Not Wasdin)]

When the Jags were awarded the franchise, Coughlin was hired by Wayne Weaver almost two years before the franchise ever played a game. He built that organization from the ground up, and had input into just about every football decision made before they started playing (iirc, he even had input into things like designing the locker room). I'm not saying that it gives him some special insight into the Jags as a team, but he does know more from an organizational standpoint than a lot of other guys out there, and if he can take some of that stuff on and leave the coaching to Marrone then I think the Jags will be well-served.

 

[lambeau]

Florio thinks Chip is going to Berkeley. Hopefully they can add Michigan to their schedule soon.

 

[Rook05]

Speculation on local radio here is that Vance Joseph isn't the guy for the Broncos. The afternoon guys are locked in on Kyle Shanahan.

 

[RedOctober3829]

 

[Rick Burlesons Yam Bag]

Another Reid coaching tree hire if it comes to fruition.

 

[snowmanny]

Florio thinks Chip is going to Berkeley. Hopefully they can add Michigan to their schedule soon.

Why on earth would he go there instead of waiting for a school that wants to compete for a national championship?

 

[Conigliaro's Potential]

Oregon wasn't a school that could compete for the national championship until Kelly got there.

 

[DJnVa]

Oregon wasn't a school that could compete for the national championship until Kelly got there.

True, but Cal won't have the NIKE pipeline--donations by Phil Knight, lots of essentially free equipment, 7000 uniform combos, etc. That stuff matters.

 

[kenneycb]

Oregon wasn't a school that could compete for the national championship until Kelly got there.

That's underselling Bellotti a bit. Given Kelly probably moved them up a tier but they were consistently one of the better Pac-10 teams of the 2000s and that was when USC was running roughshod over everyone.

 

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

I think it's a good set of hires, really. I can see how fans would want something sexier, but pretty good talent base there: I'd want to build on it rather than start over.

And all 3 guys (Marrone, Coughlin, Caldwell) are beginning 3-year contracts, so they have their window to turn things around as a functioning unit. I think that's a smart approach.

Their big question is Bortles, who has one year left on his deal. They've got to get him turned around. I think he's got a ton of potential. Hire a QB mechanics guru, stat!

 

[dcmissle]

Four hot coordinators for these searches appear to be the Pats' two, Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan.

One of these guys, at least, misses out this time, correct, and probably two?

 

[RedOctober3829]

Josina Anderson ‏@JosinaAnderson 7m7 minutes ago
Vance Joseph and the #Denver Broncos are closing in on a deal to make Joseph their next head coach, per source. Still working on numbers.

 

[Rick Burlesons Yam Bag]

Four hot coordinators for these searches appear to be the Pats' two, Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan.

One of these guys, at least, misses out this time, correct, and probably two?

At least two IMO. I think McDermott will continue to attract attention (which blows my mind) if he doesn't get Buffalo, and there are even a few college guys who might attract attention.

I think local sports radio tends to overhype local coordinators a bit at th start of this process. In Philadelphia, at the start of December, Jim Schwartz was the top choice as Bill's head coach, then in January it was Frank Reich......and then suddenly everyone was all agog over Difillippo (sp?).......underlying all of this is the fact that our best coach, by a good margin, is Dave Fipp.

 

[tims4wins]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 5m5 minutes ago


Broncos closing in on a deal to make Vance Joseph their HC, per @JosinaAnderson.

 

[Conigliaro's Potential]

If Joseph goes to Denver, I wonder if there are any jobs attractive enough for Shanahan to jump ship and leave Atlanta this year. (He's on record as saying he won't just take any HC job.) Maybe the Rams?

 

[E5 Yaz]

Broncos give Joseph four-year deal ... per schefter and nfl.com

 

[bakahump]

So Serious Question.
You have a top 5 Defense in the League but a bottom 3rd Offense. Do you hire a Defensive Guru to build on your strength? Or do you hire an Offensive minded coach and let the defense "Take care of itself" (obviously with a qualified DC running it)?

Same with Offense. Top 5 O and Bottom 5 D, what kind of Coach do you hire? A guy who can build on an existing strength? Or a guy to fix an obvious weakness?

 

[tims4wins]

Didn't the Dolphins just give up the most yards in franchise history? And yet he was a hot prospect? Does not compute.

 

[Cellar-Door]

Didn't the Dolphins just give up the most yards in franchise history? And yet he was a hot prospect? Does not compute.

He's apparently thought of as an excellent manager of personalities etc. Seems like a Tomlin type of coach rather than a guy who is going to bring in new schemes. Rumor is they are keeping Wade Phillips, so the head coach wasn't going to be doing much in terms of defensive schemes or playcalling anyway.

 

[jsinger121]

He's apparently thought of as an excellent manager of personalities etc. Seems like a Tomlin type of coach rather than a guy who is going to bring in new schemes. Rumor is they are keeping Wade Phillips, so the head coach wasn't going to be doing much in terms of defensive schemes or playcalling anyway.

I think Phillips is gone. Joseph is rumored to be bringing in Mike McCoy or Bill Musgrave as OC and Joe Woods as DC

 

[tims4wins]

I think Phillips is gone. Joseph is rumored to be bringing in Mike McCoy or Bill Musgrave as OC and Joe Woods as DC

If Josh or Shanahan or McVay get a job as HC, the first call I would be making would be to Wade to be my DC

 

[tims4wins]

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Source: Sean McDermott agrees to contract to be head coach of the Bills.