"We're going to Disney World!" NBA to resume season July 31 at WDW

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I have no problem with the players using their leverage. For the kind of money the owners will make from having the players locked down for 2-3 months, they should absolutely pony up for special insurance protections and devote money to racial justice causes.
 

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To be fair to Tatum, reports are that he has no plans to sit out.

View: https://twitter.com/BrianTRobb/status/1273302129508331520?s=20

Jayson Tatum has been a regular at Auerbach Center for voluntary workouts and has no plans to sit out play in Orlando, according to a source. That shouldn't stop NBA from adjusting extension rules for players with high financial risk like the All-Star.
Thanks for that—the report about his concerns make more sense in this context. He and the other 3rd year guys are using their leverage to move the extension window up, which makes total sense.
 

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NBA is walking a very tight rope by having the games played in Florida. Covid cases have been spiking to unseen levels the past week+
 

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NBA is walking a very tight rope by having the games played in Florida. Covid cases have been spiking to unseen levels the past week+
And while many top service workers throughout the country opt to go to relocate to Disney due to the continuous growth of the business and make a good living, the local entry level busboys and barbacks working in the "bubble" may be pulling closer to minimum wage, living with roommates and not in as privileged a position to be able to continuously social distance.
 

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And while many top service workers throughout the country opt to go to relocate to Disney due to the continuous growth of the business and make a good living, the local entry level busboys and barbacks working in the "bubble" may be pulling closer to minimum wage, living with roommates and not in as privileged a position to be able to continuously social distance.
and then the Governor will blame them for spreading CV. What a world we live in.
 

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They're in a bubble by design. If their processes are designed well and followed well it doesn't matter how much coronavirus is raging outside the bubble.

Will some aspects of it suck? Sure. Nothing's perfect. But it's not like they're alone, they're surrounded by hundreds of peers and other staff and have things like The Internet to keep them in touch with the rest, much like the rest of us have to deal with. Plus, each of them have millions of reasons to put up with it. Complaining about the constraints (especially when they can opt out if it's that strongly felt) just smacks of diva-ism.
 

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They're in a bubble by design. If their processes are designed well and followed well it doesn't matter how much coronavirus is raging outside the bubble.

Will some aspects of it suck? Sure. Nothing's perfect. But it's not like they're alone, they're surrounded by hundreds of peers and other staff and have things like The Internet to keep them in touch with the rest, much like the rest of us have to deal with. Plus, each of them have millions of reasons to put up with it. Complaining about the constraints (especially when they can opt out if it's that strongly felt) just smacks of diva-ism.
I dont think it's complaining, you dont think players and their families are legitimately fearful?

Everything you outlined is correct but they're still human and should be allowed to have concerns.
 

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And while many top service workers throughout the country opt to go to relocate to Disney due to the continuous growth of the business and make a good living, the local entry level busboys and barbacks working in the "bubble" may be pulling closer to minimum wage, living with roommates and not in as privileged a position to be able to continuously social distance.
The problem that I’ve seen in the 3 states I’ve spent time in since March isn’t about young people being privileged to be social distancing. It seems to be a choice based on the region they live. In MA, nearly everyone was wearing masks even when they really didn’t need to be (such as running outdoors with nobody near them) while my experience in SC this past week made us almost pack up and return home. Bars and restaurants packed with young and old, zero distancing and virtually nobody wearing masks. If I had to categorize most young Floridians based on conversations I’ve had with friends living there I would place the large majority in the latter (SC) group.
 

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They need to pull the plug on this "restart" before it begins.
You’ve voiced this take in this thread about 10 times now. I think we all know where you stand on it. Many others, including a majority of the league and fan base seemingly have a different take.
 

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You’ve voiced this take in this thread about 10 times now. I think we all know where you stand on it. Many others, including a majority of the league and fan base seemingly have a different take.
If ElUno wasn't complaining about something he wouldn't be posting at all.
 

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You guys are right.

Id love nothing more than a full reboot. I just found some of the takes in here on Kyrie and tone on potential players' concerns deeply offensive. But I'll bow out til this bush league officially gets going again.
 

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The problem that I’ve seen in the 3 states I’ve spent time in since March isn’t about young people being privileged to be social distancing. It seems to be a choice based on the region they live. In MA, nearly everyone was wearing masks even when they really didn’t need to be (such as running outdoors with nobody near them) while my experience in SC this past week made us almost pack up and return home. Bars and restaurants packed with young and old, zero distancing and virtually nobody wearing masks. If I had to categorize most young Floridians based on conversations I’ve had with friends living there I would place the large majority in the latter (SC) group.
I was in SC over a month ago and while the bars were open, they weren't packed, and people were much more distanced than normal. They've been open there since early May and yesterday the state had 6 total COVID deaths. So maybe it's going to get really bad there, but also maybe not.
 

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I was in SC over a month ago and while the bars were open, they weren't packed, and people were much more distanced than normal. They've been open there since early May and yesterday the state had 6 total COVID deaths. So maybe it's going to get really bad there, but also maybe not.
That’s 632 deaths according to the CDC. They currently 26th in the nation in total Covid cases, but moving up fast.
 

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Yeah this is gonna end well. Physical game, no spacing (compared to baseball), trans-Atlantic air travel, etc.
 

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I was in SC over a month ago and while the bars were open, they weren't packed, and people were much more distanced than normal. They've been open there since early May and yesterday the state had 6 total COVID deaths. So maybe it's going to get really bad there, but also maybe not.
We have a beach house in Surfside Beach in a fairly private area each June. We only went “out” to pick up food some days when we didn’t cook and to shop for groceries. During our joy rides the closer we got to Myrtle it was party central on Ocean Blvd at the bars/restaurants and no masks. The only place we saw any masks were at Food Lion.....even Piggly Wiggly had nobody wearing them so we didn’t go there after the first day. It will be interesting to see the positive count from Horry County in the coming weeks.
 

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how the heck could he be cleared for transatlantic air travel "within a week", when he is CURRENTLY positive? If he were on my flight I'd be throwing things at him and telling the staff that "this famous guy was publicly announced to be positive, if you let him on that flight you're gonna get sued from one end of the ocean to the other"
 

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"At 10 days after illness onset, recovery of replication-competent virus in viral culture (as a proxy of the presence of infectious virus) is decreased and approaches zero." -CDC
If he tested positive last week then getting cleared within a week from now is quite possible.

 

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how the heck could he be cleared for transatlantic air travel "within a week", when he is CURRENTLY positive? If he were on my flight I'd be throwing things at him and telling the staff that "this famous guy was publicly announced to be positive, if you let him on that flight you're gonna get sued from one end of the ocean to the other"
I’m assuming private jet. Even leaving aside Jokic’s issue, there probably aren’t Serbia-to-USA commercial flights running now, and connecting through a third country would be complicated with the various border restrictions in effect.
 

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Yeah this is gonna end well. Physical game, no spacing (compared to baseball), trans-Atlantic air travel, etc.
It might not work, but from what I’ve seen, the NBA’s plan seems well thought out. Isolation + regular testing is the key. Some positive tests are inevitable, but if there’s only a few, they have a fighting chance to catch them early and isolate the affected players before there’s an outbreak.
 

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Has anyone seen anything from the league or players reps on what happens if a player gets the virus and the long term impact essentially ends their career?

The risk is obviously fairly low but we are talking substantial money in the case of younger stars. I imagine players would insist on some sort of additional coverage from the league in that case but its just my guess.
 

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Has anyone seen anything from the league or players reps on what happens if a player gets the virus and the long term impact essentially ends their career?

The risk is obviously fairly low but we are talking substantial money in the case of younger stars. I imagine players would insist on some sort of additional coverage from the league in that case but its just my guess.
Yep, there's an insurance policy in place.

View: https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1275429457742966785?s=20

NBA and NBPA have agreed to put into place an enhanced insurance plan for players in Orlando that would cover career-ending injuries related to Covid-19 or conventional basketball injuries, sources tell ESPN. Potential group policy would cover players for several million dollars.
 

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Yep, there's an insurance policy in place.

View: https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1275429457742966785?s=20

NBA and NBPA have agreed to put into place an enhanced insurance plan for players in Orlando that would cover career-ending injuries related to Covid-19 or conventional basketball injuries, sources tell ESPN. Potential group policy would cover players for several million dollars.
Thank you - I missed that but figured someone had covered this, at least in Tweet form.
 

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Malcolm Brogdon tested positive, but appears to be asymptomatic and will be in Orlando.
 

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I would bet most of them have been.
I imagine testing is a requirement in order access the team facility. Regardless, every player is going to be quarantined (a no joke, in your room by yourself quarantine) and tested upon arrival in Orlando. I think that quarantine lasts for three days until two or three tests come back clean.

I obviously hope no players have it, but it's really a non-impact in terms of the NBA's overall plans at this point if players are testing positive. On the other hand, if it was inside the bubble a week before real games start...
 

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They're still letting him go? Didn't WHO revise their statement that its very rare to stipulate they don't have enough data to determine that?
I would assume that means when he's over it and tests negative. Not that he's going to play while asymptomatic.
 

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WOJ: re-start plan is final:
NBA and NBPA finalize comprehensive plan for July 30 restart to 2019-20 season - http://NBA.com: NBA Communications
 

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16 players have tested positive. Out of 302. They are in quarantine. Season starts in a little more than a month.
 

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They’re not in a bubble yet. This is the system working as intended.
I agree. I firmly believe that no sport can eradicate the virus. They have to test and remove the positives and play on with the rest. That's what golf is doing.

Frankly, even in the "bubble", players will probably test positive. The NBA must be like, "We spent 550 hours setting up this plan in Florida and now it's on fire. What. The. Fuck."
 

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I agree. I firmly believe that no sport can eradicate the virus. They have to test and remove the positives and play on with the rest. That's what golf is doing.

Frankly, even in the "bubble", players will probably test positive. The NBA must be like, "We spent 550 hours setting up this plan in Florida and now it's on fire. What. The. Fuck."
I still have no idea how MLB is going to pull it off without a bubble at all.
 

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I agree. I firmly believe that no sport can eradicate the virus. They have to test and remove the positives and play on with the rest. That's what golf is doing.

Frankly, even in the "bubble", players will probably test positive. The NBA must be like, "We spent 550 hours setting up this plan in Florida and now it's on fire. What. The. Fuck."
Right. It’s dumb to start up a league at all if you are going to shut it down because people test positive or a coach dies or gets really sick or an entire team is incapacitated. These things may happen.

I think it’s dumb to start at all, but it’s dumber to start with the idea that it’s going to be fully protected.
 

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I think it’s dumb to start at all, but it’s dumber to start with the idea that it’s going to be fully protected.
Bundesliga has operated 6 weeks without a bubble and with no outbreaks. Why can it work there and not here?