"We're going to Disney World!" NBA to resume season July 31 at WDW

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Ratings were record low. Can the refs stop treating the Lakers like they do now?
The opening game of the series between the Los Angeles Lakers and Miami Heat brought 7.41 million viewers to ABC, the smallest audience for the finals since at least 1994, when total viewers began to be regularly recorded. The previous low was 8.06 million for Game 3 of the 2007 NBA Finals.
 

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The previous ratings low was a Lebron finals, too. That's kind of funny.

And there is a LOT of competition right now for sports eyeballs, the literal opposite of how it was in April to July. The low ratings aren't a surprise. Plus, they start the games too late so I think a certain portion of people who would watch don't bother.(i am one of those people and I know a few others who are the same, too)
 

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The Lakers got a big assist when the Clippers went down, as Kawhi is the closest thing to LeBron kryptonite there is.
It’s almost like Kobe is up there pulling the strings. First, the Clippers who negate many of the Lakers matchup advantages more than any team in the league go down. Then, the one team who cannot physically matchup with the Lakers advances out of the East. Anthony Davis is like that high school kid playing in a 5th grade intramural game out there.

We’ve never seen an NBA team so unprepared to play in a Finals from a roster construction position. Any true contender structures their roster to matchup with the leading contender on the other side either in the off-season or at the trade deadline......but not even Pat Riley had any idea they would be bubble darlings and actually be playing the Lakers right now. That’s 2020 for ya.
 

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Do you think there is a correlation between how the refs treat the Lakers and tv ratings?
No. My snide point was that refs give Lakers calls so they can win so they can get on national TV because the NBA office thinks Lakers = great ratings. Same for Yankees, Cowboys, etc. If the ratings are bad maybe they can be treated like everyone else.
 

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Easiest fucking title ever. Lakers are best team but couldn’t have had easier path.
I don't know man. They faced an extremely solid Portland team, considering their seed. They crushed Houston, who has one of the best players in the game. And they beat down a Denver team that was almost an impossible out in the playoffs.

Now they play Miami, who manhandled Indiana, crushed Milwaukee, with their amazing point differential, and took the Celts in 6. Miami is good.

This path is not easy just because they avoided the Clippers.
 

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I don't know man. They faced an extremely solid Portland team, considering their seed. They crushed Houston, who has one of the best players in the game. And they beat down a Denver team that was almost an impossible out in the playoffs.

Now they play Miami, who manhandled Indiana, crushed Milwaukee, with their amazing point differential, and took the Celts in 6. Miami is good.

This path is not easy just because they avoided the Clippers.
I’m gonna disagree with this being a difficult path for the Laker. Portland was on fumes and Lillard hurt by the time they played them. Houston was legit until they lost House then it was over due to lack of depth. Out of any team in the playoffs this Miami team may be the most mismatched physically without anyone to match up with Davis.....or LeBron.
 

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I don't know man. They faced an extremely solid Portland team, considering their seed. They crushed Houston, who has one of the best players in the game. And they beat down a Denver team that was almost an impossible out in the playoffs.

Now they play Miami, who manhandled Indiana, crushed Milwaukee, with their amazing point differential, and took the Celts in 6. Miami is good.

This path is not easy just because they avoided the Clippers.
Miami isn't good when Dragic is hurt, Bam is out, and Butler is hurt. Celtics would have smoked that Miami. Portland, Houston, Denver are all decent teams but nothing special. Maybe I need to look at other title runs. The 2007 Spurs played the crap Cavs but they at least had to get through the Suns.
 

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Miami isn't good when Dragic is hurt, Bam is out, and Butler is hurt. Celtics would have smoked that Miami. Portland, Houston, Denver are all decent teams but nothing special. Maybe I need to look at other title runs. The 2007 Spurs played the crap Cavs but they at least had to get through the Suns.
Fair. But the Lakers can only play the teams that they are matched up with.
 

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Miami is good.
Especially when their three best players are not hurt or out.

Regular season net ratings of their four opponents:

POR -1.1
HOU +3.0
DEN +2.2
MIA +2.9

Somewhat deceiving, since all those teams were much healthier and/or better by the time the playoffs rolled around, but when you factor in Dragić-Bam-Butler all getting injured in the same freaking Game One, it has to be up there with the all-time easiest paths.

But yeah ... you can only play who’s in front of you. And sleazy and contrived as their sudden formation was, their toughness, defense, and team harmony all season has been admirable, and an unpleasant surprise to many (raises hand).
 

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Especially when their three best players are not hurt or out.

Regular season net ratings of their four opponents:

POR -1.1
HOU +3.0
DEN +2.2
MIA +2.9

Somewhat deceiving, since all those teams were much healthier and/or better by the time the playoffs rolled around, but when you factor in Dragić-Bam-Butler all getting injured in the same freaking Game One, it has to be up there with the all-time easiest paths.

But yeah ... you can only play who’s in front of you. And sleazy and contrived as their sudden formation was, their toughness, defense, and team harmony all season has been admirable, and an unpleasant surprise to many (raises hand).
Adding to this, Portland was 17th in net rating, Houston was 7th, Denver was 11th and Miami was 8th. The Lakers were 5th, and it seems remarkable that they won't play anyone in the top 6 (Bucks, Clippers, Celtics, Raptors, Mavericks). You can only play whose in front of you and you don't get style points for having a harder path, but man does this suck.
 

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Only down 9 with 9 to go.
Undermanned teams always fight harder now you have a team that doesn’t quit so it wasn’t surprising that they didn’t go away. If Bam plays in G3 and isn’t effective they could be down 30 like they were with Bam in G1.
 

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Craziest?dumbest take I have heard from Lakers fans:
1. the 5 Minnesota titles count
2. Most of the Celtics titles don't count because it was a time when there were mostly white guys in the NBA.
 

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So.... the five Minneapolis titles, all of which happened by 1954, all “count”, but Boston, which won its first title in 1957, should not have most of its titles “count” because the league was too white?

Wow that really IS an all-time stupid take right there.
 

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So.... the five Minneapolis titles, all of which happened by 1954, all “count”, but Boston, which won its first title in 1957, should not have most of its titles “count” because the league was too white?

Wow that really IS an all-time stupid take right there.
Just look at a picture of George Mikan, note that he was the league's most dominant player when the Lakers won their Minneapolis titles, and you won't be able to take those ones seriously.
 

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If LA can claim Minneapolis’ titles for sharing a nickname, can’t Boston claim them for sharing a color scheme?

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LOL @ Knicks "having to include Knox." I'd assume Sam Presti would ask for Robinson, Barrett, #8, future picks, and maybe a few other things before uttering the word "Knox," if he uttered it at all. But nice try, Knicks PR department.

From the Knicks' perspective ... if they can strike a deal without including Robinson, Barrett or #8, they should probably do it, just cos it's been so long since they haven't sucked ... but it also likely makes them a low-ceilinged ~44-38 team built around a fragile, 5'-11", 36 year-old star.
 

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Yeah I’m not sure that OKC’s getting a huge haul for that contract.
Yeah, I wouldn’t expect a huge haul for CP3, but neither would I expect OKC to be banging down the Knicks’ door for Kevin Knox. He’s not a negative asset or anything — he’s still just 21, and at 1/$5M I’m sure OKC would take him as salary ballast with the side benefit of a free one-year look to see if he has some untapped upside. But the “Knicks would have to include Knox” line implies a desirability I doubt he has.
 

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Yes, but the Knicks are desperate for names and are shitheads. They'll pay more than Knox.

Edit: missed opportunity to propose Knox straight-up for the new Chris Paul.
I just don't think they get a whole lot more than that. The Knickleheads have two players on that roster (Barrett and Robinson), and they're both going to be untouchable for a middle aged point guard making that sort of money. There are pretty much no under the cap teams, aside from the Knicks, that have abny use for CP3. The only teams that do have ugly contracts to trade in exchange.

If you're Presti, do you trade CP3 to the Bucks for Bledsoe, Blopez, and filler and spend all that money? Or send him to the Knicks and have a giant TPE to use with all those draft picks in landing a star? I mean the Bucks are sending you $79 million in salary (Bledsoe and Blopez) for what? The right to pick 17th in a roleplayer draft and DJ Wilson? Thanks to the Westbrook and George trades they're in a position to make a real run at Giannis if they want to. And still have the means to add another star to the roster.
 

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wouldn't the knicks have to trade half their team to offset CP3's contract and satisfy the NBA trade parameters?
No, the Knicks real payroll (after cutting all the partially guaranteed deals) is between $50 million and $60 million. They could absorb the contract outright.
 

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I just don't think they get a whole lot more than that. The Knickleheads have two players on that roster (Barrett and Robinson), and they're both going to be untouchable for a middle aged point guard making that sort of money. There are pretty much no under the cap teams, aside from the Knicks, that have abny use for CP3. The only teams that do have ugly contracts to trade in exchange.

If you're Presti, do you trade CP3 to the Bucks for Bledsoe, Blopez, and filler and spend all that money? Or send him to the Knicks and have a giant TPE to use with all those draft picks in landing a star? I mean the Bucks are sending you $79 million in salary (Bledsoe and Blopez) for what? The right to pick 17th in a roleplayer draft and DJ Wilson? Thanks to the Westbrook and George trades they're in a position to make a real run at Giannis if they want to. And still have the means to add another star to the roster.
I'm not doubting Presti's intelligence here. The Knicks have had how many bigtime names in our lifetimes? I'm 51, so not old enough to be aware of the Willis Reed era. Ewing & Carmelo are the only "stars" that they have had in four decades. Bernard was the man, and there are guys like Oakley, and the first few years of the unicorn, before he shot his way out of that NBA graveyard. I'd hold out for 8 at least, even if I don't really covet the pick. If anything, I'm not sure that I'd even want Knox back. That's the best part of the planted story. Knox?

I think that NY is stupid and would overpay for Paul. Maybe you're right, and the Knicks hold firm, and Presti holds takes the salary dump. I'd want more picks or something.
 

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I think they're stupid enough to take on the contract in the first place. There just isn't going to be any competition for him, which is undoubtedly why the Knicks have targeted him as the name player.

But if I'm the Thunder I might just take the TPE for a lottery protected #1 and then make a run at Giannis using the TPE as the lure for Milwaukee.
 

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Today is most likely the last day of the NBA season. Adam Silver is by far the best commissioner in sports. By creating this NBA bubble in Orlando, they managed to protect the players, the fans, and the competitive integrity of the game. Some of the best moments of the season happened in the bubble. Clippers vs Mavericks, with Luka's buzzer beater. The Suns going 8-0. Ty Warren's hot streak. The Mitchell/Murray showdowns. Just fun competitive basketball.

Mixing this program with the BLM movement was also an amazing job. We compare this with the MLB and the NFL and see how smooth the process was for the NBA.

The NBA gets an A+
 

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Today is most likely the last day of the NBA season. Adam Silver is by far the best commissioner in sports. By creating this NBA bubble in Orlando, they managed to protect the players, the fans, and the competitive integrity of the game. Some of the best moments of the season happened in the bubble. Clippers vs Mavericks, with Luka's buzzer beater. The Suns going 8-0. Ty Warren's hot streak. The Mitchell/Murray showdowns. Just fun competitive basketball.

Mixing this program with the BLM movement was also an amazing job. We compare this with the MLB and the NFL and see how smooth the process was for the NBA.

The NBA gets an A+
This. But again, I am a moth to the flame that is the modern NBA.
 

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