Kenny Pickett had a better game today. Desmond Ridder had a better game today. Multiple rookie QBs had a better game.
Week 5: Saints at Pats
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They won’t even keep Malik at the QB position, you’re not finding anything, and you have to maintain credibility with who you put out there at QB, even in a bad season.
Fourth time since 2000. One was the infamous 31-0 loss in Buffalo in 2003, another was also a loss to Buffalo during TB12’s suspension.
2003 first game against Buffalo when Tom Jackson said after “they hate their coach”
No no you forget, the Steelers and several mystery teams were prepared to take Thornton if we didn’t.
If this season ends with the Pats having a top 5 pick, Kraft would be a fool to let Bill decide what to do with it.
Third baseman for the strike year Expos. Also for the Astros and Sox I believe.
Tom Brady and Kyle Shanahan have given fans very unrealistic expectations for QBs drafted after the 3rd round.
I don’t know what happened after the first two weeks. They looked great on defense and working the kinks out but passable on offense. Maybe it’s just that teams have tape on them now, but this has been a rather quick decline from “we could win 7-10 games” to “maybe there’s 1-2 more wins there”.
This isn’t even meant to be salt in the wounds and I think it’s true. That might be the worst I’ve ever seen a team play (Saints) and win by a 30+ point shutout.
This made me smile. Even in the midst of a lost season a mere five games in, SoSH makes it bearable.
1. There are people here who wanted Zappe and even this week. We don't need to call anyone out because they are guilty of nothing but rooting for the Pats to win (there are Pats fans who root the other way imo). I am just surprised because even last season it was obvious he didn't have the tools to succeed in the NFL so thinking we'd see anything different seems overly optimistic.
2. This team is bad right now. Even if you don't like certain posters, it doesn't give you a free play to project on to others. Most of us want the Pats to do well and we can all have different ideas about what that means. That doesn't mean that you have to lead with a helmet with every post. But do you if you must...
2. This team is bad right now. Even if you don't like certain posters, it doesn't give you a free play to project on to others. Most of us want the Pats to do well and we can all have different ideas about what that means. That doesn't mean that you have to lead with a helmet with every post. But do you if you must...
I’ve been trying to explain to my son how this team was in the 70s and 80s. No need to explain anymore, he’s beginning to see it. I am grateful these guys showed their colors in October instead of December. A wonderful 25 years or so run but this team is not good. We’ll still watch every Sunday but am hoping the Celtics come out firing.
During Brady’s suspension shouldn’t even count. Jimmy got hurt, then Jacoby won a game but tore something or broke his thumb, so we straight up didn’t have a QB
They also book-ended that loss to Buffalo by beating them 31-0 the last game of the regular season, and they won the Super Bowl.
1 is a misread. Nobody was calling for Zappe to get a W. They were calling for Zappe to get Mac the F off their TV.
It feels like you are working too hard to be right in a game thread.
This is the first time I’ve listened to Mac’s press availability. Does he always sound like he went to the Crash Davis School of Press Relations?
BB after the game says they need to 'start over.' Asked what that means he says 'start over. I've done it before.'
I don't know what being right means. I am clarifying a post.
Sounds like you have other things on your mind besides the game or team.
Nah I was just calling you out for you correcting us multiple times about the relative merits of our shitty quarterbacks.
Again, it’s a game thread. Stop trying to be right.
This is where I was at. I legit thought they had a shot at 10-11 wins and even the division with the right bounces.
But the offense just fell apart. It seems everyone just decided that Mac can not throw it 20+ yards and just sit on the short stuff and they have been right. Then Judon and Gonzalez got hurt and now the defense is fucked as well (understandably). It would be fun to have the first pick in the draft.
I don't concern myself with being right- I deal in facts and evidence. But if this gives you comfort you are 100% right.
What this has to do with the Pats or their situation is maybe something you should consider. I didn't lose the game today but if it helps for you to come at me go ahead. I can take it, no mods.
That game was a dumpster fire on the heels of Belichick cutting Lawyer Milloy earlier in the week after signing Rodney Harrison in the off season after finishing 9-7 the previous year and missing the playoffs.
I momentarily thought that was a massive mistake by Belichick and the team was in trouble; they went on to win the Super Bowl that year and the next year, so he proved me wrong.
There will be no proving me wrong this year; this team is God awful.
As bad as they were at times in the 1970's and 1980's, this is late 1980's/early 1990's/Dick Macpherson era level bad, they are terrible, this is an unwatchable product, no fun, no enjoyment, just anger and frustration at how terrible the product on the field is.
But the season ticket base will not erode, anyone who drops out will quickly be replaced by others who have been waiting years to get the opportunity to fight their way to and from the Stadium on Sundays, tailgate and get loaded, then stagger into the stadium and watch a shitshow on the field in person, so Kraft will just talk about how much he hates losing and this will continue, lighthouses and mega video boards are more important than drafting well and signing top talent free agents.
This is going to take awhile to fix, no quick one year turnarounds as they are going backwards since the greatest QB of all time was allowed to take his talents elsewhere, but don't worry, Kraft is waving the waiting period to be put into the Patriots HOF, it will be an in stadium event, 60,000 plus fans clapping and cheering for Tom Brady just like during the good old days.
Nothing last forever, but this is less than ideal.
I've stuck by this organization since 1968, I'm a Patriots/football lifer, but this looks pretty grim with no light at the end of the tunnel; if there is one, it's just a train barreling down on us.
I don’t tune into football much until baseball is over and even then, I wait till playoffs before I’m invested at all. Doubt I’ll be writing much poetry about the Pats this year. My poems didn’t help the Sox much. Maybe they’d have the opposite effect here.
Just wanted to point out how much more individually talented the Saints roster looked than the Patriots'. For a team that people always use as an example of "what, you want them to just splurge on cash spending and end up like New Orleans???" this one sure seemed like a blow to the theory that fiscal responsibility is the way to go. If the down side to spending like a drunken sailor is having that roster (who has also won more games than the Pats since 2020), sign me the fuck up.
It’s not even that complicated
Just draft WR and DB from tOSU
That seems like the Saints strategy