Barnwell also called McDaniels the second worst HC hiring in the last two decades behind Urban Meyer, which is idiotic considering Hue Jackson exists.
Agree. Fans and media make way too much out of schemes. Talent, execution, organization, and people management are all more integral to a coaches success, than having some cutting edge scheme is. It’s also inaccurate for people to think coaches stay locked in the same scheme forever, and the game passes them by. I think the vast majority of these guys keep track of and adapt to changes in the game. It’s not that complex. Xs and Os aren’t quantum physics. Josh failed largely because he rolled the dice on what looks like a shot QB, and because he apparently lacks the personality, management and organizational skills to run the entire football operation. Not because he forgot how to coach offense. For all those reasons, I’d take him back as a coordinator or position coach in a minute.
As an older Canadian, I can offer some perspective. Before NFL games were on TV in CAnada the NFL players were still famous to us. Most Canadian fans were excited then disappointed when we first saw the NFL. 10-7, 13-6, were very common scores. The announcers were always telling us about the exciting 2 minute offence, but it hardly ever materialized. But, as we figured it out as fans we came to appreciate the field position battles, and just how hard it was to score. So compared to recent years offence is down, but to me it has gotten out of wack, and it has become almost too easy to score.
Mark Davis is in no universe smooth enough to have that fortune cookie made and planted in time.
He is, but due to lack of mobility Carr is more dependent on solid line play than many other mid-tier NFL QBs. The weird thing is, I think Jimmy G is too, so replacing Carr with Jimmy never did make much sense to me without investing a lot more in the o-line.
He created a ton of new plays for Cam in the year he was here, they ran a ton of stuff they had never run before. Same with the Jacoby games a few years before that. He knows what he is doing as an OC and to me there's ample evidence he's a good one.
I thought he schemed Adams open a number of times on Monday, and Jimmy G. just couldn't get him the ball.
Come on man. Let's not continue to do this. Mac had one year much better than his other two years and that was with Josh. Also, the pandemic offense was much better under Josh than the current edition.
Yeah, but the pandemic offense was also much better than the current Raiders offense, and the 2020 Patriots personnel is completely different from the one they have now. I think Josh is a good OC, I also think away from the Patriots structure he wasn't able to put together good offenses in Denver, St. Louis or Vegas. It's not just about Brady, though he helps, but I find it hard to make the argument that it's not about Bill/his structure.
I don't see anything with Ziegler that would make me think I'd rather have him than Groh. If you move on from Groh no worries that's a decision the owner can make (it's likely part of a clean sweep and Bill going, so I doubt it), but why would you push him out for Ziegler who just tanked in LV and was whose only year as the top guy here was in 2021 which......
Raiders have a pretty talented roster. Maybe Jimmy G and their OL are so bad no coaching change will matter but at 3-5 they are not out of WC contention. Can probably steal a couple of wins with a playbook nobody has tape on.
I think more teams should fire coaches and GMs mid-season. If you're deciding to fire the coach and GM, well that means you don't see a successful future short or long term. So might as well get them out and start the planning process for what comes next early. What value are those guys bringing you for the remainder of the season?
Yeah this is dumb. Josh is exceedingly mediocre but he's not a complete shitshow like Meyers.
Or you can frame it as he was a failed first time head coach who had way too much power way too soon and presumably learned some things when he went back to New England and learned more under the Belichick. I think most considered it a good hire at the time (I don't care enough to revisit but it wasn't an "OMG this hire sux" reaction) given the Pats offensive success with him at the helm so the last sentence feels revisionist.
On the con side, I think it paints ownership as reactionary and creates a lot of confusion. I think many solid coaches will choose not to work for teams with this history as opposed to owners not ready to clear house after a 3-4 record.
I personally believe that McDaniels is a great QB coach that has masqueraded as an OC and HC.
He only got one shot and it was the Lions so maybe he could be, but Jim Schwartz comes to mind, really good DC (side note, does he count as Belichick tree?) who didn't hit as a HC.
I've never been a fan of Josh's playcalling myself. I think a lot of what he did in New England was buttressed by having Brady under center.
Playcalling does not equal coordinating / game-planning, IMO.
Really? How much QB coaching did Brady need? Seems to me that he figured most things out on his own.
I’ll be even more blunt, there literally isn’t a fan base that doesn’t bitch and moan about their OCs play calling.
Lest we forget that after the shitty end to 2017 when Brady and Belichick were at loggerheads, Kraft gave Josh a godfather offer to reverse his decision to leave for the Colts almost certainly because Kraft felt Josh was critical to getting things back on track. Was that football related? Personal? No idea.
The echoes of his tenure in Denver are far too similar for it to be coincidence. He ran Cutler out of town and then Brandon Marshall. He ran Carr out of town, and was well on his way to running Davante Adams out of town as well.
