Ehhh, I just watched McDaniel talking about this stuff here and it mostly just sounded like a bunch of recovery speak. And in the context of professional football—where these guys are literally killing themselves executing your game plan, it’s kind of ridiculous and disingenuous.
I said that as a reply to the notion that McD was not a good OC.
I remember - vividly - the day he spurned the Colts to return to the Pats after the 2017 season and feeling reinvigorated to a degree I’ve never felt before. And then the Pats won it all in 2018.
NFL franchises don’t throw off as much free cash as you’d expect from a business worth billions of dollars, but I’d be surprised if there isn’t more than enough to cover a couple fired head coaches and their staffs. I can’t imagine Davis will have to dig into his pocket to fund this.
I don't have any hate for Josh, but does anyone remember the Raiders game from week 2 or 3 where the Raiders were down by 8 and drove to the opposing team's ~10 yard line with a little over 2 minutes left and Josh opted to kick the FG rather then go for the TD?
One gives you a better chance of winning. The other gives you a better chance of losing, but *guarantees* a closer score that looks better.
To be fair, McDaniels talked about needing to go for two before talking about another possession. Presumably he meant to break the tie.
Mike McDaniel had his 3rd string QB throw 45 passes in a playoff game that they could have won otherwise. I'd ease off on the paeans for him just yet.
He had a broken foot over the offseason and he was trending downward in SF before getting replaced by Purdy.
Anyone advocating for Jimmy G hasn't watched a snap of Raiders football this year. He's been absolutely fucking awful.
According to Tyler Polumbus, who was on the team, McDaniels told the Broncos after he traded away Cutler "Fellas don't worry about the QB situation, I can turn a high schooler into an All-Pro".
He's also pretty clearly trying to not get hit/injured so he has pretty bad happy feet in the pocket
https://theathletic.com/5019995/2023/11/01/raiders-mcdaniels-ziegler-firing-mark-davis?source=user-shared-article
To be fair, he did a pretty good job with Cassel in ‘08 and Orton in ‘09, neither of whom really repeated that success the rest of their careers. He did nothing with any of the QBs on the ‘11 Rams, but that was an epically awful team.
With the Raiders net worth being over 6 billion and Mark Davis worth 2.4 billion (google searches) I'm sure this ends up on the Raiders balance sheet and having only residual affect to Mark's cash flow
I've always been curious how it is some players can have a long healthy career and another player at the same position can have talent but ends up hurt often. I don't mean in like a "he just doesn't quit!" macho thing, but more the physiology of people's bodies.
Random luck plays a huge part as well. Also, some athletes bodies break down at an earlier age than others.
It really is bonkers how these guys think they can be Bill-Lite and massive success will follow. Like what BB accomplished was largely because of him being an old school prick, and not being the smartest head coach who’s ever lived.
Honestly he should just call it at this point and bring his pretty mug to the booth or studio. It's not going to get much better for him, unfortunately.
Millionaire athlete should give up 10s of millions of dollars and privilege because he isn’t as good as he used to be.
The way commentators are being paid these days and given his long term health...yeah.
He’d be a great local news anchor then.
One of Brady’s many amazing skills. He knew how to take a hit. I’m sure luck was a factor, but he was one tough sob.
Dick LeBeau, Gus Bradley, Rod Marinelli, Marty Mornhinweg, Bill Belichick, Kevin Gilbride…
I don't believe Bill is going to fire Bill O'Brien. There may be some quibbles here and there with the coaching, but it should be obvious that there is a real problem with the personnel on the offensive side of the ball this season; coaching can only do so much.
This is a tangent, but Phillips was actually a decent head coach, even if he wasn't as successful as he was as a coordinator. If you exclude his interim stints, he had a career record of 79-57 and made the playoffs in 5 of his 9 seasons. He doesn't deserve to be lumped in with the epic flameouts like McDaniels.
And Norv Turner! Would be great to do a study on why this is the case. I would expect it is 99% because of a lack of management skills/training and 1% football acumen.
This is spot on. You can't blame Jimmy G for their offensive woes without blaming the guy who handpicked Jimmy G. And as you correctly note, he essentially picked Hoyer over Stidham, too. Then, he drafted an injured DE, who hasn't contributed at all, with the #6 overall pick.
How often do NFL jobs become available with a QB who can be counted on? I'm guessing inheriting Carr, for all his faults, is about as good of a QB a new coach can get.
I don't want to derail the thread, as there is a bigger conversation to be had here, but the very notion of a "Patriot Way" is, rightfully, under scrutiny and will continue to be until Belichick wins without Tom Brady. Until then, the term should be shelved and replaced with "The Brady Way."
Agreed. And related to a lack of humility is a lack of creativity/willingness to change the "system" to match the players in the system.
Except for the fact that Stidham signed with the Broncos first for a total of $10 million over two years, 3 weeks before the Raiders signed Hoyer for 2 years, $4.5 million, so it's more like he picked Hoyer over the rest of the flotsam and jetsam instead. And that "injured DE" (that was drafted 7th) has played in all but one game this year and a total of just over 40% of the snaps, which is 2nd most for edge rushers behind Crosby. Has he had a ton of numbers? No, but he's a rookie and there's a steep learning curve at DE.
