A win is a win is a win.
My lone game ball goes to Wilfork for having better hands than Moore.
That's all I got.
My lone game ball goes to Wilfork for having better hands than Moore.
That's all I got.
The Game ball Thread: Week 3 vs Raiders
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Stitch01 said:
Chandler Jones, too. But, yeah, unimpressive ...especially offensively. I thought the defense was good. Always hard to say relative to the offense, but I thought Carr threw the balls well and the Raiders' OL is their best unit....so I think the Pats D deserves credit for a good game.
The offense was putrid outside of Ridley.
The Raiders.
That was the least impressive winning performance I can remember other than the Thursday night victory over the Jets at the start of last season. I honestly think they looked worse than week 1 in most respects, and that was their worst statistical regular season loss since 2010.
Edit: I guess I'm zooming in unfairly on the offense and discounting what was a good defensive performance by the secondary. But... yeesh:... home against the Raiders.
That was the least impressive winning performance I can remember other than the Thursday night victory over the Jets at the start of last season. I honestly think they looked worse than week 1 in most respects, and that was their worst statistical regular season loss since 2010.
Edit: I guess I'm zooming in unfairly on the offense and discounting what was a good defensive performance by the secondary. But... yeesh:... home against the Raiders.
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Ed Hillel said:
No love for Brady?
He took a ton of hits and made some great throws in the second half.
It's a small thing but taking care of details matters: he ran the clock out masterfully at the end of the game.
I really really really hope that Brady is not injured. The ball he threw on third down in the fourth quarter made it look like he was hurt, but he bounced back the next series. Brady took at least two crushing blind-side hits that I saw. This can't continue or we will be starting Garoppolo in a month.
Hightower
Edelman
Ghost
Chandler Jones (but without the CMFJ denomination of last week)
Wilfork, not just for the INT but the Raiders basically could do nothing running the ball all day, especially not up the middle
Edelman
Ghost
Chandler Jones (but without the CMFJ denomination of last week)
Wilfork, not just for the INT but the Raiders basically could do nothing running the ball all day, especially not up the middle
Stitch01 said:
Yeah, he was inaccurate in the first half but better in the second half. Carr made more impressive throws, so I wouldn't go overboard in praising Brady's game. That said, he didn't screw things up and was smart under pressure, so that's worth a lot.
I know some people want to give Chandler Jones a game ball every game ... but he provided zero pass rush today. No sacks, no QB hits, no pressure ... OK, he deflected a couple balls at the line, and he had a couple decent run stops, but that's a game ball, really? He was invisible.
Has Lafell had an offensive interference call in each of the three games, or am I hallucinating? Is that a record?
Slater
Hightower
Edelman
No one else. One score win over a bad team at home. They're going to have to be a lot better if they're going to go anywhere.
Hightower
Edelman
No one else. One score win over a bad team at home. They're going to have to be a lot better if they're going to go anywhere.
gammoseditor said:
I guess the bright side is that both the Jets and Texans gave up two TDs to them, and the Pats D has only given up 16 points in the last two games. Style points don't count.
Whether they can continue to get big turnovers, though, is a big question.
I think Logan Ryan had a hell of a game, too. That pass interference at the end was bullshit.
cshea said:
Amendola caught all 3 of those. Pretty much the only 3 times he's been open so far this season.
Would reiterate as I did on the game thread that if Amendola is only getting open on illegal pick plays that it may well say something about his separation.
My understanding is that he didn't need surgery, because the tear was complete, and usually doctors treat a partial tear by making it a complete one.jsinger121 said:
Source: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--patriots--danny-amendola-has-complete-muscle-tear-in-groin-but-recovering-at-fast-pace-211510361.html
MyDaughterLovesTomGordon said:
Yes it was. At first it looked to me like Ryan was the one initiating the contact, but the replay made it clear that he had inside position the whole way, and it was the receiver who, quite literally, used both hands to try to grab Ryan and throw him out of the way.
Van Everyman said:
Amendola was open several other times yesterday and Brady never looked at him. I'm absolutely convinced that 95% of the issue here is Brady's stubbornness.
PFF numbers with caveats
--no one on offense better than Edelman 0.7 (1.4 pass, docked for run blocking)
--Vollmer only positive O-line at 0.2
--Hooman with a -4.9, terrible run block grade
--Solder -3.3, pass block driven
--Gronk -3.2 driven by run blocking. Worst PFF grade of his career
--Interior line all between -1.3 and -1.9 with Devey grading the best
--Brady graded 0.1. 1 pass attempt 20 yards+ for the day. 7-8 on intermediate routes. Pressured on 11 of 39 drop backs 5-9 49 yards 2 sacks
--Edelman 10 catches on 11 targets. Rest of team 14 catches on 22 targets
--Pats now fourth worst in the league on offense by PFF rating. Second worst pass blocking team ahead of only KC, so should be a fun one next week
Revis the worst rating on defense at -1.9, -2.1 coverage. His worst rating since 2010. 6 targets, 5 receptions (same as Ryan)
Ryan next at -1.0 (they didn't dock him for the phantom penalty)
Hightower (5.1) Mayo (3.4) Nink (3.3) the top 3. Hightower with a 3.0 in pass coverage, Mayo credited with 4 QB hurries. Career best for Hightower, and his 10th straight non-negative game (PFF has Hightower as the better first round pick from '12 over Jones by a comfortable margin so far in their respective careers)
Chung 2.0 with a 1.8 for pass coverage
Jones 1.4, a hurry and 2 deflected passes, graded out OK in run D.
--no one on offense better than Edelman 0.7 (1.4 pass, docked for run blocking)
--Vollmer only positive O-line at 0.2
--Hooman with a -4.9, terrible run block grade
--Solder -3.3, pass block driven
--Gronk -3.2 driven by run blocking. Worst PFF grade of his career
--Interior line all between -1.3 and -1.9 with Devey grading the best
--Brady graded 0.1. 1 pass attempt 20 yards+ for the day. 7-8 on intermediate routes. Pressured on 11 of 39 drop backs 5-9 49 yards 2 sacks
--Edelman 10 catches on 11 targets. Rest of team 14 catches on 22 targets
--Pats now fourth worst in the league on offense by PFF rating. Second worst pass blocking team ahead of only KC, so should be a fun one next week
Revis the worst rating on defense at -1.9, -2.1 coverage. His worst rating since 2010. 6 targets, 5 receptions (same as Ryan)
Ryan next at -1.0 (they didn't dock him for the phantom penalty)
Hightower (5.1) Mayo (3.4) Nink (3.3) the top 3. Hightower with a 3.0 in pass coverage, Mayo credited with 4 QB hurries. Career best for Hightower, and his 10th straight non-negative game (PFF has Hightower as the better first round pick from '12 over Jones by a comfortable margin so far in their respective careers)
Chung 2.0 with a 1.8 for pass coverage
Jones 1.4, a hurry and 2 deflected passes, graded out OK in run D.
bougrj1 said:
That's my thought, too. Brady's locking on to Edelman because he doesn't have time to spread the ball around. Hopefully the offensive line can improve. I'm justifying their performance to myself by remembering that the Patriots have always had problems against the NASCAR front.