Sox Sign OF Adam Duvall to 1 year deal

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If Miami does trade for Arraez it's unlikely Minnesota takes a MI back, they already have a surplus, which makes Miami even more likely to want to trade Wendle or whoever.
 

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The real question with Duvall and this signing is: what about that ECU tendon sheath 34-year-old Duvall had repaired last August?

Bautista ('12) and Teixeira ('13) were both mashers who had tendon sheath surgery; Bautista was 31, Teixeira 33. Both B and T missed about 40 games the year following their surgeries; B had his in August of the year previous, T in July. Both B and T lost about 50 points on their ISO after coming back.

Now, that was 10 years ago, but I doubt much has changed in ECU tendon sheath repair (though I could be wrong). This is obviously a small sample size, but probably safest to assume that Duvall will be slow to return and somewhat diminished when he does.
 

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The real question with Duvall and this signing is: what about that ECU tendon sheath 34-year-old Duvall had repaired last August?

Bautista ('12) and Teixeira ('13) were both mashers who had tendon sheath surgery; Bautista was 31, Teixeira 33. Both B and T missed about 40 games the year following their surgeries; B had his in August of the year previous, T in July. Both B and T lost about 50 points on their ISO after coming back.

Now, that was 10 years ago, but I doubt much has changed in ECU tendon sheath repair (though I could be wrong). This is obviously a small sample size, but probably safest to assume that Duvall will be slow to return and somewhat diminished when he does.
Asking out of complete ignorance. From a hitting standpoint does it matter which hand?
 

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If Turner is the RH compliment at 1B and back up at 3rd Yoshida's likely to get some starts at DH and the occasional day off. I really don't think it's that hard to find playing time and ABs to satisfy four outfielders, given the positional flexibility and the likelihood of Kike' playing games in the IF.
I really don't think the Red Sox gave Justin Turner $22 million dollars to be the RH compliment to Casas at 1b, and I think we all hope that there won't be many 3b bats available. Turner got 532 ABs last year and I don't think there is any reason to think that he won't get just as many this coming year. After all, he is one of the best bats in the line-up and the single best RH hitter on the team.
it's also been reported that Duvall chose the Red Sox over the Mets because the Mets saw him as a 4th outfielder and the Sox were offering him a starting role. So yes, there will be at least 4 players getting regular ABs in the OF, but right now it seems like those outfielders are named Yoshida, Duvall, Verdugo and Refsnyder. Of course Kike may also get some play there, but considering that he's currently slated to be the team's starting SS and the team has already committed to starter at-bats for Yoshida and Duvall, it wouldn't seem like he'd see too much action there. The only way that might change is if Verdugo is either traded (which wouldn't be shocking) or switched to a bench role (which seems unlikely).
Is/should the plan be to have Duvall as your primary CF? Rhetorical.
Per reports, Duvall chose the Red Sox because he was told he'd have a chance to start. So yes, it looks like he will be the starting CF unless somehow there is a roster shake-up that sees Verdugo leaving (opening up RF) and a new SS coming (so that Kike can return to CF).
But I'm guessing that neither happens and the current OF is the OF they start the season with.
Of course, that would not only mean Duvall is the CF but Verdugo ends up in RF. Why would the Sox do that? Well maybe they see Verdugo similarly to Yo La Tengo:
I think we are underestimating Verdugo. He was fine in Right Field prior to last season (when it appears he had an injury and/or lost some quickness due to bulking up). He is turning 27 this May, has shown the ability to play well in Boston, doesn't become a free agent until 2025, and his offensive stats were really good from June forward last year (.304/.356/.447 after the ASG). Cora lit a fire under him at the end of the season to come in to camp trimmed down. According to some tweets posted earlier, it sounds like he got the message.
 
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interesting Twitter thread about Duvall. Not sure if the whole thing will be available in its entirety but mostly explains why Sox might believe Duvall can play CF:

View: https://twitter.com/rryanmedeiros/status/1615550491911405569?s=46&t=6FZqzb7EBJwroRzV9sUaPQ

Why the #RedSox think Adam Duvall can be their full-time CF (thread):

Boston has reportedly expressed serious interest in signing Duvall to play CF for the upcoming season.

But why? The 34-year-old has only made 75 appearances at the position in his entire professional career.

Duvall has proven that, on a rate basis, he is a very capable CF.

Is it sustainable over a full season? No way to know for sure until he gets a chance.

There have been no signs of decline in his speed despite him turning 34 this past September.
 

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I really don't think the Red Sox gave Justin Turner $22 million dollars to be the RH compliment to Casas at 1b, and I think we all hope that there won't be many 3b bats available. Turner got 532 ABs last year and I don't think there is any reason to think that he won't get just as many this coming year. After all, he is one of the best bats in the line-up and the single best RH hitter on the team.
it's also been reported that Duvall chose the Red Sox over the Mets because the Mets saw him as a 4th outfielder and the Sox were offering him a starting role. So yes, there will be at least 4 players getting regular ABs in the OF, but right now it seems like those outfielders are named Yoshida, Duvall, Verdugo and Refsnyder. Of course Kike may also get some play there, but considering that he's currently slated to be the team's starting SS and the team has already committed to starter at-bats for Yoshida and Duvall, it wouldn't seem like he'd see too much action there. The only way that might change is if Verdugo is either traded (which wouldn't be shocking) or switched to a bench role (which seems unlikely).

Per reports, Duvall chose the Red Sox because he was told he'd have a chance to start. So yes, it looks like he will be the starting CF unless somehow there is a roster shake-up that sees Verdugo leaving (opening up RF) and a new SS coming (so that Kike can return to CF).
But I'm guessing that neither happens and the current OF is the OF they start the season with.
Of course, that would not only mean Duvall is the CF but Verdugo ends up in RF. Why would the Sox do that? Well maybe they see Verdugo similarly to Yo La Tengo:
Turnerr is the primary DH. On the days that he plays first and the times that he may be needed at third Yoshida could slide into DH. I was really surprised that it needed explanation.
 

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The screw up with Bogaerts was not necessarily limited to this winter fwiw.
The screw up with Bogaerts was Dombrowski being too happy to give away opt-outs. Ian Cundall on a recent Sox Prospects podcast opined that this could have been bought out with another $15-20 million added to the extension, which still would have been a very team-friendly deal.