Sox Sign OF Adam Duvall to 1 year deal
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If Casas and Arroyo can step up their offense, which isn't at all a loud ask.... and Dalbec can be somewhere between his overall 2021 and his 2022, that's still a damned potent offense. Pitching seems like it's solid to good enough to get a WC spot even without Duvall.
"in with a doctor now" would be a finely constructed euphemism for "he's having surgery right now"
Yeah, this is sounding like DRS is going to be right here. Just a really unfortunate turn of events for Duvall and a team that just doesn’t have much margin for error at all.
Dalbec is likely the best option right now because he's a RH hitter with power and TB has 3 lefties lined up for this series. As stated up thread, Chang at SS and Kike' in CF is the most likely defensive moves that we will see concerning Duvall's absence in the short term. Depending on match ups Kike' at SS and Tapia in CF.
IF they can limit Dalbec’s appearances against non-LHP then they might not be totally boned in terms of replacing some of the bat we just lost. The problem has been that they have struggled to shield him from RHP the last two seasons for lack of a better option. We’ll see if that is still the case.
Duvall's loss will hurt, no question. However, the Sox have some depth to them this year. Dalbec and Duran are a year older and both have a chance to cross over from bit-player to something more impactful. We also have Mondesi and Story - there's a combo there that can put Hernandez back in the OF for the second half.
It really comes down to who will play at SS, and who will play CF. We can fudge a bit for awhile with Refsnyder and Verdugo.
Even if the x-rays are clear, I'd assume there are some scenarios where were looking at some time before we really know what the soft-tissue damage is?
Or can they discern the difference between a sprain and a tear this soon after the accident, even if there's swelling?
What's unclear about PeteAbe's tweet is where is this going on? Did Duvall travel to St. Pete with the team or did he come back to Boston last night? If he's in St. Pete, it seems unlikely that he's in surgery right now. If he's in Boston, that's a different story.
I can't imagine he's in FL. If you had an injury or illness of any kind, wouldn't you want to see a doctor in Boston? Or maybe NYC. But I'd try Boston first.
We should probably also note Adam Duvall grew up in Louisville KY and attended college there.
So overall, this can't have been a good 24 hours for him.
So overall, this can't have been a good 24 hours for him.
As often as you hear it, that’s not a thing. No matter how swollen something is the x-rays are still valid. Same with MRIs - if your doctor tells you something is too swollen for an MRI it means they can’t get you scheduled quickly.
Too swollen for surgery can be a thing, but not for radiographic studies.
I guess this is good news for the estate of Hack Wilson
was kind of hoping Duvall would get 192 even with the miniscule
was kind of hoping Duvall would get 192 even with the miniscule
I’m not very high on either Dalbec or Duran but at least we have AAA guys who have MLB experience that might be able to have a decent stretch or two. Hernandez’s bat is starting to depress me. Have no idea what to expect from Mondesi and Story but hopefully we get some good second half production out of them.
The real path to relevance is probably with the pitching. If we get improvement from Sale, something/anything from Paxton, Whitlock, Bello, etc., you can see a path to playoff contention. For now, the team just has to tread water a bit.
No gamethread yet, but this is the first post-Duvall lineup
1. Enrique Hernandez (R) SS
2. Rafael Devers (L) 3B
3. Justin Turner (R) DH
4. Masataka Yoshida (L) LF
5. Rob Refsnyder (R) CF
6. Alex Verdugo (L) RF
7. Christian Arroyo (R) 2B
8. Triston Casas (L) 1B
9. Connor Wong (R) C
1. Enrique Hernandez (R) SS
2. Rafael Devers (L) 3B
3. Justin Turner (R) DH
4. Masataka Yoshida (L) LF
5. Rob Refsnyder (R) CF
6. Alex Verdugo (L) RF
7. Christian Arroyo (R) 2B
8. Triston Casas (L) 1B
9. Connor Wong (R) C
Given Casas had a double and homerun against lefties yesterday, and he's (intensely knocking on wood) the long term solution, I wouldn't want Casas sitting vs all the lefties they are about to face.
I can see that; but if Dalbec is not starting against LH, I’m not sure why he’s the guy getting called up. They’d be better served with someone who can actually play CF or SS. Maybe that happens if / when Duvall goes on the 60?
Well I just mean for tonight's game...Casas had a great day vs LHP yesterday, let him play again today. If I had to bet right now on next 4 games Id say Casas tonight & Wednesday (vs a RHP), Dalbec vs the other two lefties Tues & Thurs.
Fair enough- I think it’s also likely that Beeks, who hasn’t started a ton, doesn’t go that long so might as well start Casas and potentially have the platoon advantage most of the game.
If they were concerned about Casas and 1B against LHP, I imagine Dalbec would have been on the roster from the start. He's not coming up to play 1B (though maybe he gets an occasional start there). He's getting the call primarily to be a middle infield option that allows them to move Kike to the outfield as necessary.
Well, doesn’t the loss of Duvall change things? Believe the original plan was for Turner to take some at bats at 1b against LH. Seems like a good spot for Dalbec. If he’s coming up as backup at ss/2b, it seems like a stretch but I guess they are pretty limited based on who they have available to call up. But seems like Duvall to the 60 and a call up of Goodrum might be on the table, no?
Until there's clarity on Duvall, nothing's really changed in the short term. I think Dalbec was called up because he's the best RHH on the 40-man who wasn't already on the big club, and the team is facing a bunch of LHP coming up. Once they get through the LHP gauntlet, and know exactly what is up with Duvall, they can make further changes whether that's selecting Goodrum or recalling Duran or Hamilton in place of Dalbec. One step at a time.
And Dalbec will play some against the lefty pitchers for the next week so they'll know if he's worth keeping around or not.
Why? Dalbec has proven himself to be terrible and Casas hit a HR of a LHP yesterday.
Yes I agree. The only other thing would be to find out who did his sugery last year. Lots of times they will go back to the same Doctor. I can't seem to find where he had the surgery last time. Presumably Atlanta but who knows?
He isn't good enough to bench a player that you hope is the team's everyday first baseman. Cases doesn't get better sitting on the bench watching a player than isn't good enough taking ABs
I can see him getting a game at first in this series to give Casas a day off and perhaps come off the bench as a RH PH.
Dalbec has a career OPS of .855 (126 OPS+) against LHP. There is absolutely no harm in giving him a start or two against an LHP in combination with giving Casas a routine day off. No matter how good the kid is, he's not going to play 162 games. He will sit once in a while. Might as well sit him for Dalbec against a lefty.
Fuuuuuuuuuck
3 months minimum
Probably out for the year though given the activity of a baseball player, no?
DDB Jr. broke his wrist while skating. The surgeon that he saw had dozens and dozens of pictures of baseball players in his office. The way he explained it to us was that for a very particular type of injury he was kind of regarded as one of a few guys who did this one particular thing for baseball players. I don't know what percentage see him, but I got the sense that it was like the Dr. James Edwards kind of principle. He had logged his 10,00 hours, and so players flew in from all over the place.
I will say sometime in August he will be back. The question is who comes back first Duvall or Story?
DRS, maybe a wrist fracture has a more encouraging recovery path than having to do surgery to completely rebuild his wrist tendon again?
From what i've read (and I have zero medical backround aside from being married to a nurse haha) it's a three month minimum with surgery until he can resume any activties.
Why wouldn't Refsnyder leadoff, as he already has been against LHP? I get that we just lost our five-hitter, but still, why not just make adjustments from five thru nine?