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David Haye is officially a damn coward. 1st he faked an injured and now he just pulled a damn switcheroo.

I agree that he needs more time but then don't walk around talking shit and wearing this shirt:
 

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QUOTE (ElUno20 @ Jul 22 2009, 10:24 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2437249
David Haye is officially a damn coward. 1st he faked an injured and now he just pulled a damn switcheroo.

I agree that he needs more time but then don't walk around talking shit and wearing this shirt:


Ya, I seriously hope the Haye-Valuev reports are some sort of joke.

Who the hell wants to watch that?
 

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I hope this comes together. Would be a great matchup.

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I was told this week that serious talks have been rekindled for a fall fight between middleweight champ Kelly Pavlik and Paul Williams, with HBO making a very strong offer. The question is, will the two camps, who don't exactly get along well, be able to agree on the split? We shall see, but my fingers are crossed because it's a great fight -- certainly a lot bigger than anything else either guy can legitimately make.

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About time. I don't know who I'd favor right now. I would say PW because of Pavlik's lack of activity since the Bhop ass kicking.
 

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QUOTE (BGrif21125 @ Jul 23 2009, 11:29 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2438154
I hope this comes together. Would be a great matchup.


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There were whispers but I never thought it'll get close to actually happening. It'll be a super fight, and will be a definite buy for me. On that article, there's this little gem:

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One fight Arum mentioned to me as a possibility for the Cotto-Pacquiao undercard is a lightweight title match between Edwin Valero and junior lightweight titlist Humberto Soto, who plans to move up in weight. That's a can't-miss fight.


Valero and Soto - it'll be non-stop mayhem.
 

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Not entirely sure how reliable this report is, but if it's true... Well, this is a shitty month for boxing.

Vernon Forrest reportedly shot and killed in car jacking

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(WSB Radio) Former boxing champion and U.S. Olympian Vernon Forrest was shot and killed in an attempted car jacking in Northwest Atlanta, a police spokesperson said.

Lt. Keith Meadows with the Atlanta police department told WSB Radio, Forrest was putting air in the tires of his Jaguar around 11 p.m. Saturday at a gas station on White Hall St. at McDaniel Blvd. Investigators said at least two men jumped out of a red Chevrolet Monte Carlo and tried to steal Forrest's car. The boxer had a gun and started running after the suspects.

"The victim and suspect became involved in a brief foot chase," Lt. Meadows said. "At some point, gunfire was exchanged between the two of them. The victim was shot at least once in the head."

Investigators said they are talking to several witness.

"At this point we have a general description of at least two black males driving a red Monte Carlo." Lt. Meadows said.

Police don't think the suspects knew Forrest was a professional boxer. His girlfriend's young son was in the car at the time of the shooting. Family members are flying in from Texas to pick up the child, Lt. Meadows said.

Forrest, who lived in Atlanta, was a member of the 1992 U.S. Olympic team in Barcelona, Spain. He was a three-time champion with two WBC welterweight wins against Sugar Shane Mosley in 2002. Forrest, nicknamed the viper, beat Sergio Mora for the WBC junior middleweight title in September.

The Augusta, Ga. native was stripped of his WBC belt in May because of a rib injury. He was supposed to fight Sergio Martinez on August 1st.


Edit: confirmed - http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/ne...tory?id=4356715
 

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Wow. This is getting ridiculous.

Not the most entertaining fighter, but by all accounts a good guy.


Agreed. This way beyond ridiculous and the idea of killing someone to get there car is just stupid.
 

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Agreed. This way beyond ridiculous and the idea of killing someone to get there car is just stupid.


Apparently they got into a scuffle at the gas station where attempted carjacking happened, and Vernon chased one of the guys, and got shot in the head. As the current albeit sketchy police account stands, it was one of those incredibly (un)lucky shot as the shooter was most likely running and shooting at the same time.
 

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Was never a huge fan of Forrest inside the ring but had a great deal of respect for his works outside it. He put his money where his mouth was and was by all accounts a genuinely nice guy. Very sad the hear about this.

Stupid way to go for a man who did a whole lot of good.
 

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The latest details make this tragedy even more horrifying -- and completely avoidable.

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While many reports have tagged the incident as an attempted carjacking, the press in Atlanta are piecing the incident together as a robbery. When his godson went inside the gas station to use the bathroom and buy snacks, Forrest would stay with his car to add air to a low tire. Around that point, a male suspect approached him and asked him for some money. According to some reports, Forrest took out his wallet when the suspect pulled out a gun, grabbed Forrest's wallet and fled.

Forrest was also armed and chased after the suspect. Some shots were exchanged. Forrest gave up the chase after assuming the suspect got away. As Forrest began to head back to the gas station, the suspect, unknowingly to Forrest, was behind him and shot him 7-8 times in the back and thigh area. The shooter fled in a red Monte Carlo with a second suspect.


So it wasn't (if this is accurate), as it originally seemed, a street-gunfight in which the robber got in a "lucky" shot. It was a cold-blooded murder.

What's makes this so incredibly tragic is that it never had to happen. It's just a damn wallet. Why does Forrest need to chase after this guy? It sucks to get robbed, but in the end it's only money -- move on with your life. But Forrest will never get that chance because, well, why? Is there something to be gained by mixing it up with an armed psychopath? I don't get it.

That said, this is such a shame. I always liked Forrest -- a lot more than most boxing fans, who seemed pretty down on him. Because his style wasn't all that TV-friendly, his boxing abilities were way underrated. And by all accounts he was a decent guy who'd overcome (like a lot of fighters) some pretty tough times and now was very conscientious about "giving back."

This is just horrible.
 

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I guess he thought he was the star of his own action flick.

He chased a robber down the street firing his gun.... really... what good was going to come of that?
 

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Finally, August 1st Timothy Bradley vs. Nate Campbell. Biggest fight of the summer because this summer has SUCKED for boxing.


Nate is moving up because he's too old to make 135 anymore. While Nate is a tricky veteran who has taken an up and comer to school before (Juan Diaz), I think Tim will be too strong for him and outwork him.


Here's some prefight hype:
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I forgot how brutal of a knockdown that was. I can't believe he got up and beat Holt.
 

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QUOTE (ElUno20 @ Jul 31 2009, 12:27 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2458377
Finally, August 1st Timothy Bradley vs. Nate Campbell. Biggest fight of the summer because this summer has SUCKED for boxing.

Ya, it has been a slow summer.

August is always a slow month. But usually, there's one big July fight to hold everyone over for the summer (Cotto-Margarito last year, for example). This year that was supposed to be Mayweather-Marquez, but when that got postponed, all of a sudden there was a big gaping hole in the schedule from mid-June all the way to September.

The fall schedule looks very promising though. Let's all hope Pavlik-Williams gets done.
 

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Entertaining main event on ShoBox last night between Quintero and Harris. Check it out if you missed it.

I have high expectations for the HBO doc tonight on Collins-Resto.
 

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I just watched "Assault In the Ring" documentary about the Luis Matos-Billy Collins fight on HBO. Very, very powerful stuff. It actually reaches some conclusions and throws Panama Lewis under the bus as a total scumbag of a person, not to mention a scumbag of a trainer. It also sheds some light on the Aaron Pryor "mixed bottle" incident as to what was likely in it. Most of the story is told from Matos' POV (Collins died a little under a year after their fight) and is very compelling throughout. I don't want to ruin it for anyone because it is extremely well done. Just another example of why HBO is so great when it comes to boxing.
 

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QUOTE (kenneycb @ Aug 2 2009, 02:29 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2464628
I just watched "Assault In the Ring" documentary about the Luis Matos-Billy Collins fight on HBO. Very, very powerful stuff. It actually reaches some conclusions and throws Panama Lewis under the bus as a total scumbag of a person, not to mention a scumbag of a trainer. It also sheds some light on the Aaron Pryor "mixed bottle" incident as to what was likely in it. Most of the story is told from Matos' POV (Collins died a little under a year after their fight) and is very compelling throughout. I don't want to ruin it for anyone because it is extremely well done. Just another example of why HBO is so great when it comes to boxing.


Completely agree, great documentary. It was tough to watch what happened to Resto while Lewis doesn't seem to have a conscience.
 

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I really don't feel any sympathy for Resto at all. He may not be quite as bad of a guy as Panama Lewis, but he's still a piece of shit in his own right. He knew full well what he was doing, he did it anyway, and then he kept lying about it for 25 years. So it haunts him everyday.... well it should!

I knew most of the story already, but I didn't know about the angle of Collins' father discouraging him from fighting again in order to increase the validity of the lawsuits. That was news to me. I also didn't know about the "cocaine dealer making a large bet on Resto" angle.

I wish the documentary had spent a little more time throwing the NY state commission under the bus, seeing that they were grossly incompetent.

On another note.... a very disappointing end to the Bradley-Campbell fight on Showtime.
1. This is more proof that instant replay needs to be implemented for this one situation... determining the cause of a cut.
2. The ref did a terrible job of making it clear to everyone what his ruling was regarding the cause of the cut.
3. I thought Campbell may have been looking for a way out.

Just a bad ending all around. Between that fight and the documentary, it's like the theme of the night was "Boxing at its worst."
 

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"Assault In The Ring" is a great documentary. Tought to watch though as others have said. My take is that Panama Lewis is a total p.o.s. who masterminded the doctoring of Resto's gloves. There's no doubt Resto knew that something nefarious had taken place but he didn't object or do anything. I have no sympathy for Resto b/c I got the impression that he was "coming clean" (1) because the documentarian had the transcript of Resto's admission and confronted him with it, and (2) Resto wants to look like the 'redemptive guy' and get a job in boxing again. Resto would still be lying about that night but for being presented with the transcript of his admission of what went down.
 

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QUOTE (BGrif21125 @ Aug 2 2009, 11:21 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2467160
I really don't feel any sympathy for Resto at all. He may not be quite as bad of a guy as Panama Lewis, but he's still a piece of shit in his own right. He knew full well what he was doing, he did it anyway, and then he kept lying about it for 25 years. So it haunts him everyday.... well it should!

I knew most of the story already, but I didn't know about the angle of Collins' father discouraging him from fighting again in order to increase the validity of the lawsuits. That was news to me. I also didn't know about the "cocaine dealer making a large bet on Resto" angle.

This part is spot-on. While there is little doubt that Resto's remorse is genuine, he also knew exactly what he was doing. Not only were the gloves doctored, but he revealed that his tape was "plastered", and his water bottle was spiked! He also acknowledged that he stopped going to the body and threw primarily head shots because he "wanted to destroy him". Well, Luis, you succeeded.

As for Collins' father discouraging him from taking fights, I take that with a grain of salt. Collins was beaten nearly to death in the ring, and died a mere 9 months later. With a torn iris, his facial injuries, and a beating of that magnitude, was he supposed to get in the ring within 9 short months? Perfectly healthy fighters routinely go more than a year between bouts; I think it's unreasonable to think that Irish Billy was in any condition to climb into a ring before his untimely death. Tragic story all the way around.

Panama Lewis should be rotting in a prison cell somewhere.
 

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Quick question, does anyone check a boxer's water bottle? It seems as though it would be pretty easy to mix something that gave you an advantage as long as it stays clear.
 

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QUOTE (bosoxx05 @ Aug 3 2009, 11:22 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2468564
Quick question, does anyone check a boxer's water bottle? It seems as though it would be pretty easy to mix something that gave you an advantage as long as it stays clear.

IIRC they're supposed to get drug tested after the fights. I think Legendary Nights attributed the lack of a drug test in the Pryor-Arguello fight to the disorganization within the Florida Boxing Commission.
 

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As for Collins' father discouraging him from taking fights, I take that with a grain of salt. Collins was beaten nearly to death in the ring, and died a mere 9 months later. With a torn iris, his facial injuries, and a beating of that magnitude, was he supposed to get in the ring within 9 short months? Perfectly healthy fighters routinely go more than a year between bouts; I think it's unreasonable to think that Irish Billy was in any condition to climb into a ring before his untimely death.

Oh ya, I absolutely take it with a grain of salt. I just had never heard that story before, I didn't realize people were even talking about that angle at the time.

Or to look at it another way.... if his father were telling him that, could you really blame them? I'd be trying to sue for as much money as possible if I were stuck in that position.

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IIRC they're supposed to get drug tested after the fights. I think Legendary Nights attributed the lack of a drug test in the Pryor-Arguello fight to the disorganization within the Florida Boxing Commission.
Ya, postfight drug tests are standard, although I have no clue if that was common practice in NY in 1983. IIRC, Tyson refused a postfight drug test several years ago, although no one was suspicious that he was using PEDs, it was just assumed that he had been partying in the days prior to the fight and had something like marijuana or cocaine left over in his system.

The thing that blew me away was the story about the commission inspector. He left the Resto locker room because they said they weren't ready to wrap the hands yet, and then when he returned they had already put the gloves on without him present. If that official were even remotely competent, wouldn't he have forced them to re-glove? Or at least taken a very very thorough look at the gloves? Especially considering that the trainer in the locker room (Lewis) was someone who had previously been accused of cheating. He failed at his job so spectacularly that you're forced to wonder if he was on the take.
 

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Uncle Roger arrested in Vegas for strangling a female boxer:

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Roger Mayweather, the uncle and head trainer of unbeaten boxer Floyd Mayweather Jr., was arrested in Las Vegas on Sunday and charged with strangling a woman.

The arrest puts in question his ability to work in his nephew’s corner for Mayweather Jr.’s Sept. 19 return to boxing in a pay-per-view bout against Juan Manuel Marquez at the MGM Grand Garden.

Roger Mayweather, 48, a former world champion boxer, was arrested on charges of coercion with force and battery via strangulation. He was taken to the Clark County Detention Center.

According to the police report, Melissa St. Vil, 25, a professional boxer whom Mayweather once trained, called 911 at 10:01 a.m. on Sunday and screamed out her address before the phone was disconnected.

When officers arrived, they found Mayweather in the kitchen behind St. Vil with his arms around her. According to the report, St. Vil was coughing and spitting blood and had redness on her throat. Paramedics said they noticed defense wounds to the side of Mayweather’s face and a laceration on the top of his head.

The report said that St. Vil struck Mayweather on the head with a lamp as he was choking her. Paramedics reported to police that a broken lamp they discovered had blood on the inside of the lampshade.

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QUOTE (BGrif21125 @ Aug 2 2009, 11:21 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2467160
I really don't feel any sympathy for Resto at all. He may not be quite as bad of a guy as Panama Lewis, but he's still a piece of shit in his own right. He knew full well what he was doing, he did it anyway, and then he kept lying about it for 25 years. So it haunts him everyday.... well it should!

I knew most of the story already, but I didn't know about the angle of Collins' father discouraging him from fighting again in order to increase the validity of the lawsuits. That was news to me. I also didn't know about the "cocaine dealer making a large bet on Resto" angle.

I wish the documentary had spent a little more time throwing the NY state commission under the bus, seeing that they were grossly incompetent.

On another note.... a very disappointing end to the Bradley-Campbell fight on Showtime.
1. This is more proof that instant replay needs to be implemented for this one situation... determining the cause of a cut.
2. The ref did a terrible job of making it clear to everyone what his ruling was regarding the cause of the cut.
3. I thought Campbell may have been looking for a way out.

Just a bad ending all around. Between that fight and the documentary, it's like the theme of the night was "Boxing at its worst."


Yeah, not one of boxing's best nights in what's been a terrible few weeks for the sport.

I felt some sympathy for Resto simply because he's so clearly a man of sub-average intelligence (a condition likely exacerbated by taking too many punches to the head). He was always an easy mark. Yeah, he knew what he was doing in the fight, but did he totally understand what it meant? I rather doubt it. So while my heart's not bleeding for the guy, and I feel that he should take responsibility for his actions (he did go to prison, after all), I at least see his humanity and feel for him on that level.

Panama Lewis on the other hand is a sociopath, pure and simple. He's nothing but a criminal. Considering he's been at the center of two cheating scandals, you have to wonder what other crap he's gotten away with without getting caught.

The documentary itself was fairly riveting. But it did have that Michael Moore style to it, where the filmmaker leads his subjects around and ambushes the ones who won't be led. He made a point of noting that he paid Panama Lewis for every interview. But what about Resto? If he didn't pay Resto but did pay Lewis, isn't he just exploiting the weaker, less intelligent guy while allowing himself to be exploited by the sharper, sleazier character? And if he WAS paying Resto, shouldn't that ave been revealed as well?

I'm actually a fan of Michael Moore and don't think what he does is necessarily bad or wrong. But it its an advocacy style and can be easily abused. Nit sure whether that was the case with this filmmaker.

I agree that the actions of the NYS Commission and its inspectors need a lot more scrutiny. The old-boy network, Tammany Hall style of blurring the lines between government and organized crime remains prevalent in New York (and many other places) and in 1983 was probably worse even than today. I have no doubt that the conspiracy here extended well beyond Lewis, Resto and some anonymous coke dealer who placed a bet on the underdog.

As for Nate Campbell, yeah, technically I guess the fight should have been a no contest. But I think it was clear that Nate -- a very smart and experienced boxer -- made a calculated decision to cut his losses and try to get out of there with an NC, then maybe get a rematch with Bradley or move on to an easier target.

The reality is, regardless of whether his eye was genuinely injured or not (have there been any announced medical test results), his only real option was to go on fighting. Rightly or wrongly he's now seen as a quitter, and Bradley has bigger fish to fry at this stage of his career. I always hate to say a fighter should risk his health in the ring any more than all fighters normally do, but if Nate wanted to have a chance at continuing his career as a world-level fighter, he needed to suck it up and get back out there. Sorry, Nate. You blew it.
 

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Vitali-Arreola is set for September 26 on HBO from the Staples Center in LA.
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Arreola may not have the resume to deserve this type of fight yet, but at least this matchup will create some buzz. Arreola is the first significant heavyweight ever of Mexican heritage, so I expect a big crowd to come out in LA, should be a lively atmosphere.

Now, if Pavlik-Williams can ever get done, the fall schedule will be looking very good after what has been a very boring summer.
 

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Two men have been arrested and charged in the murder of Vernon Forrest.

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ATLANTA — A man believed to be the getaway driver in the robbery and shooting death of former boxing champion Vernon Forrest has been arrested, Atlanta police said Wednesday.

Jquante Crews, 25, of Dallas, Ga., faces several charges including murder, possession of a firearm during a commission of a felony and possession of a firearm by a convicted felon.

Police said they picked Crews up at his brother's house in College Park, Ga., and that he was the driver of the red Pontiac seen on a surveillance video of the July 25 crime. The arrest came hours after another suspect was denied bond.

As his grandmother sat nearby weeping, 20-year-old Demario Ware had his first court appearance on charges of murder, aggravated assault, armed robbery and possession of a weapon by a convicted felon. Ware turned himself in to authorities Tuesday night and appeared at a jailhouse hearing in front of Fulton County Magistrate Sylvia McCoy, who read him the charges.

Wearing a navy blue jail jumpsuit and handcuffs, Ware said nothing other than "yes, ma'am" and kept his eyes on the floor. He is being held without bond.


A third man, the shooter, remains at large.
 

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Vitali-Arreola is set for September 26 on HBO from the Staples Center in LA.
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Arreola may not have the resume to deserve this type of fight yet, but at least this matchup will create some buzz. Arreola is the first significant heavyweight ever of Mexican heritage, so I expect a big crowd to come out in LA, should be a lively atmosphere.

Now, if Pavlik-Williams can ever get done, the fall schedule will be looking very good after what has been a very boring summer.


QFT. A Pavlik-Williams fight would be a great fight to head off a potentially spectacular fall/winter.
 

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QFT. A Pavlik-Williams fight would be a great fight to head off a potentially spectacular fall/winter.


According to Steve Kim of Maxboxing.com. Pavlik-Wiliams is probable for Oct. 3, on HBO. Kim says that Williams would be collecting a career-high payday ($1.75 million, at least) so to turn it down would ruin his branding as "the most feared man in boxing." As for Pavlik, he's simply out of options. There just aren't any other good fights left for him at 160 right now and he can't stay inactive for much longer.

Potentially great fight. Williams would seem to have more natural advantages. Speed, footwork, punching volume, jab. But Williams has always had a leaky defense and Pavlik is one of the premier pound-for-pound pure punchers in the game. Williams is not Bernard Hopkins. he doesn't know every trick in the book to avoid being hit squarely. In fact, he gets hit squarely a lot -- and he's never had to take a world-class punch from a true 160-pounder who is probably, REALLY a 168-pounder.

Assuming the report is accurate, I'm really looking forward to this one.
 

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This is a mistake for Pavlik. He's been inactive since having his ass handed to him by Bhop and he's going in there with a starving animal. This won't end well
 

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Finally, a heavyweight fight I'm looking forward to. Vitali Klitschko takes on Cristobal Arreola on Sept 26, live on HBO. I assume that will also carry the rebroadcast of Marquez-Mayweather.
 

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GREAT news:

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Middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik and Paul Williams agreed to terms Tuesday night for an Oct. 3 fight at Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, N.J., Top Rank president Todd duBoef told ESPN.com.

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I think this is the best fight that could be made in all of boxing outside of the welterweight division.
 

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QUOTE (BGrif21125 @ Aug 11 2009, 09:32 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2499075
GREAT news:


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I think this is the best fight that could be made in all of boxing outside of the welterweight division.


Hooray! This is one fight where I see critical faults in either fighter to make it exciting, and unpredictable.

I am still not 100% sold on Williams - even without the Quintana loss. Beating Pavlik would go a long way certainly, and Pavlik may not get to mug inside after eating a steady diet of Paul's long straights.
 

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QUOTE (SeoulSoxFan @ Aug 11 2009, 10:35 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2499311
Hooray! This is one fight where I see critical faults in either fighter to make it exciting, and unpredictable.

I am still not 100% sold on Williams - even without the Quintana loss. Beating Pavlik would go a long way certainly, and Pavlik may not get to mug inside after eating a steady diet of Paul's long straights.



Looks like it's on "free" HBO, which is of course where it should be. Kind of interesting to think that just a year or two ago, this is the kind of fight they would have put on Pay Per View just by default.

So V. Klitschko-Arreola on Sept. 226, Pavlik-Williams Oct. 3. Maybe this fall won't be so bad for boxing after all.
 

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Kind of interesting to think that just a year or two ago, this is the kind of fight they would have put on Pay Per View just by default.

Yep, you could say the same thing for Mosley-Margarito, and maybe Cotto-Clottey and Marquez-Diaz as well. It's been a great year for HBO WCB.
 

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One more fight announcement, a more minor but still somewhat interesting one. The Lucian Bute-Librado Andrade rematch will take place on HBO's Boxing After Dark, November 28.

I thought I'd heard that this was going to be on the Mayweather-Marquez undercard, which in some ways is a better place for it. But it will be interesting to hear if the HBO announcers even mention the Super Middleweight "Super Six" tournament of which neither Bute nor Andrade is a part (arguably, Bute should be).
 

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Per Dan Rafael, Dawson-Johnson II, scheduled for Nov. 7th, is going to take place at the XL Center in Hartford (I assume XL is what they're calling the Hartford Civic Center these days).

Good chance for New Englanders to see a high-quality matchup at what should be reasonable prices.
 

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Roy just TKOd Lacy in the 10th. He toyed with him the whole night. Could have knocked him out at least 4 or 5 times but was too busy talking to fans in the front row.
 

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QUOTE (ElUno20 @ Aug 16 2009, 12:32 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2510425
Roy just TKOd Lacy in the 10th. He toyed with him the whole night. Could have knocked him out at least 4 or 5 times but was too busy talking to fans in the front row.


I didn't see that one, but it doesn't sound like I missed much.

Jeff Lacy must be the biggest hype job in boxing since the days of Primo Carnera. Has anyone ever gone from rising superstar to has-been as quickly and precipitously as this guy?
 

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Has anyone ever gone from rising superstar to has-been as quickly and precipitously as this guy?


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"According to the doctor, Kelly hasn't been making his appointments. So what do you want me to do," Arum said.



Looks like Kelly may be next in line.
 

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Word is they're looking at either Nov. 21 or Dec. 5 as the new date for the fight, with the Williams camp prefering Dec. 5 because Williams' promoter is already staging another fight on Nov. 21 (Kessler-Ward).

As long as it happens before the end of the year, that's all that matters to me. I just hope it's not a harbinger of things to come for what looks to be an exciting fall schedule.
 

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Looks like Kelly may be next in line.



Yeah, he's working on it. Right now, it's looking like Hopkins is his Calzaghe. A humiliating beating followed by a bunch of injuries, inactivity and business conflicts. If Pavlik fails to make a major statement against Williams, I'd say he's effectively done. Maybe he'll be the victim on the next Roy Jones PPV!
 

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Nevada is instituting limited instant replay.

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The Nevada Athletic Commission voted unanimously Wednesday to institute instant replay on a limited basis for boxing and mixed martial arts events.

Instant replay would be used, solely at the discretion of the referee, to confirm a call. In instances in which a cut or a head-butt stops a bout, replay could be used to determine if the incident was accidental or an intentional foul.

The regulation must be approved by the Legislative Council Bureau and filed by the state's librarian. If it is approved in the next 30 days, replay could be used in Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s comeback fight Sept. 19 against Juan Manuel Marquez at the MGM Grand Garden Arena.

"We'll see how it works," NAC executive director Keith Kizer said. "It's an additional tool for the referee, and that's a good thing."

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I just saw an announcement for Guillermo Rigondeaux's third professional fight.

link: http://www.fightnews.com/?p=20675

Rigondeaux, who is now being trained by Freddy Roach, dismantled his last two opponents but they were weak competition. This blurb doesn't say who he is fighting be it must be someone better because it is for a regional WBA title.

The fight is on ESPN2 on Sept. 18th. He is a fun fighter to watch, with extremely fast hands, so if you like boxing at all check it out.
 

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Few things:
+ Tecate is offering a $25 rebate on the Floyd PPV

+ Goosen will not wait for Pavlik to heal his bruised vagina and says that Paul will be fighting this fall. I knew when this fight was announced that it would never happen. Pavlik will end this year with 1 fight under his belt which was back in February vs. a damn corpse.

+ I know it's not officially over but with BAD's Saturday card I'm officially shutting the door on a shitty summer for boxing. They're putting out 3 potentially entertaining fights. Diaz vs. Paulie, Ishe Smith vs. Danny Jacobs (taking his first true step up), and The Ghost Guerrero vs. Klassen. Finally, boxing will be rolling again.