Less a Jaguar than a Hummer: a wide, heavy gas-guzzler.Pretty sure there's no Ferrari in our garage. We've got what, a Jaguar that needs to go the shop and a Toyota that will get us to work in the morning?
The quote is spectacular but this is when having a John Farrell, leader of men and protector of the clubhouse, is a huge plus. He isn't going to let this torpedo the camaraderie and I get a sense that no one, even the veterans, are running to Pablo's defense.Oh dear, this will not end well. Panda's agent just chummed the water, and the media already had that hunger.
Just ask HUNGRY Nick Cafardo.
DDski pretty much has to unload this guy now for nothing, or April is going to be an absolute disaster in the clubhouse.
They weigh about the same.The analogy of Pablo Sandoval to a Ferrari might be the most egregious comment ever made by a sports agent.
Tough to tell from a tweet, but it looks like an on-the-record statement to Heyman. No "leaking" necessary.You have to think this was a FO leak, no? I know LL isn't around anymore but the agent is dumb enough for allegedly saying this. He'd be exponentially more so if he also leaked it. After the last decade of Larry Leaks (or whomever) this just smells like the start of a smear attempt.
Referring to this Ferrari, of course:Heyman reporting that Pablo and his agent met with the Sox and aren't happy. Agent: "If you want to win, why leave the Ferrari in the garage?"
He really does seem to have given up, hasn't he?Jason Mastrodonato @JMastrodonato 8m8 minutes ago
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Sandoval just now: "Those are my agents comments, that didn't come from me. He can say whatever he wants."
Give me $95MM, and I, too, will say whatever you want me to say.He really does seem to have given up, hasn't he?
I asked elsewhere (can't remember which thread): What is the most that a team has ever eaten to get a player off the roster, either in terms of cutting them, or in regards to paying him to play on another team? Texas gave the MFY's a lot to take ARod back in 2003 as I recall. Jason Giambi? Mo Vaughn? Mike Hampton?At what point would you be comfortable giving him away? With another team paying 75% of his deal (obviously yes)? 50% (probably)? 25% (not sure)?
Could be this one, complete with a spare tire up front and middle.Referring to this Ferrari, of course:
I asked elsewhere (can't remember which thread): What is the most that a team has ever eaten to get a player off the roster, either in terms of cutting them, or in regards to paying him to play on another team? Texas gave the MFY's a lot to take ARod back in 2003 as I recall. Jason Giambi? Mo Vaughn? Mike Hampton?
Man. I feel like Nick Cafardo.
Then who was waiting by the phone for Morgan to get canned? I could have sworn that it was Herzog. Oh well, live and learn.
Bwahahaha what is the what-if? What if we had our manager pick his nose on tv multiple times a game? What if he could have burned out relievers in Boston?It was Joe Torre. Lou Gorman and Joe had agreed to terms, but then Morgan Magic happened. It's probably #3 on the all-time Red Sox/Yankees what-ifs list behind Ruth being sent out of Boston and the Joe Dimaggio- Ted Williams trade not being brought to fruition.
Edit: Whoops, I missed curly2's post.
Agree with the bolded, but then he likely never gets a MLB managing job with anyone after that. I think you undersell Torre's talents in keeping the players' focus on winning games within the Bronx Zoo.Bwahahaha what is the what-if? What if we had our manager pick his nose on tv multiple times a game? What if he could have burned out relievers in Boston?
Torre did shit as a manager outside of his tenure with the Yankees when he was handed easily the most perfect storm of farm system maturation, deep pockets and shrewd trades. He was sub 500 with the Cardinals during the same time period we are talking, so unless you think that Hobson and Kennedy derailed teams that were as similarly stacked as the Yankees of the mid to late 90s, I'm not seeing where the what if comes in. He would have gotten canned in Boston long before the Sox had talent capable of competing for a WS.
I'm in the camp that most managers are by default at least somewhat overrated. Torre is easily the most overrated manager in the modern game.
It's a fine line, but I was hoping for a little "I'm disappointed in myself".
Why? Simply "accepting it" kinda of gives off the impression he really doesn't give a shit about his playing time, or his team.That is a ridiculously unrealistic expectation.
What would be different about getting fired from Boston than how he got fired in St Louis? Because NY scooped him right up after that.Agree with the bolded, but then he likely never gets a MLB managing job with anyone after that. I think you undersell Torre's talents in keeping the players' focus on winning games within the Bronx Zoo.
Right, and the alternative approach is almost "Bull Durham"-level boilerplate:Why? Simply "accepting it" kinda of gives off the impression he really doesn't give a shit about his playing time, or his team.
This is pretty much word-for-word the post I had typed before seeing this... Involved "Travis has had a spectacular spring and has earned it" and "my job now is to keep working on myself and when the club calls on me to show them the skills I have"Right, and the alternative approach is almost "Bull Durham"-level boilerplate:
"It's frustrating, because I always want to play. But I understand John's got to decide what's best for the club. Travis has played really well and earned the opportunity. I'll just keep working and try to make it hard to keep me on the bench."
Every player should have that memorized by the time they reach MLB.
The reaction moondog was after - "I'm disappointed in myself" - isn't one that I can imagine any professional athlete expressing in Sandoval's situation.Why? Simply "accepting it" kinda of gives off the impression he really doesn't give a shit about his playing time, or his team.
Nothing, but he still may be the best option. Isn't that the real problem?Meanwhile, what has Shaw done lately, including against AA pitchers?
Seems to me the decision was about what Shaw could do in the field relative to Panda's impersonation of a stone-hands statue with an inaccurate arm, and that any difference in their offensive production was a distant secondary factor.Meanwhile, what has Shaw done lately, including against AA pitchers?
0 > -2Meanwhile, what has Shaw done lately, including against AA pitchers?
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2016/04/01/the-benching-pablo-sandoval-rife-with-problems/oR6iUBESO4L3Ovvx9u4T3H/story.html“I just talked about things with my agent,” Sandoval said. “It was a competition and I tip my cap to Travis. He won it. All I can do now is try as hard as I can and get better. That’s all I can do.”
I don't care if he's lying through his teeth as long as he gets in shape and tries to take his job back. Enough with the morality play.That's the perfect response. Hope it's sincere.
That's exactly what I'm saying.I don't care if he's lying through his teeth as long as he gets in shape and tries to take his job back. Enough with the morality play.