NFL Playoffs - Divisional Round

HomeRunBaker

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Oy. I hate the NFL rule book. Ball was in his hands with 2 feet down. The “to the ground” stuff is an unnecessary complication.
If it wasn’t jarred loose first by Milano this would have been a TD. They 100% got it right on replay.
 

DeadlySplitter

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Don’t understand how that’s not a catch. There needs to be a “common sense” component to the rule.
They are saying he didn't have full control of the ball until he was out of bounds.

Fully possessing in bounds is a requirement for a catch (which is why that'd still be a catch if it was anywhere else but the back of the end zone)
 

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It really is.
Yeah, but watching them try to fix the catch rule every few years and it still sucking is one of my favorite meta-narratives in sport. It’s like the Olympics or the World Cup or something. Remember “makes a football move”? That was fantastic.
 

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Sorry, there is nothing conclusive there. You have to go with whatever the call on the field is.
feel like sometimes the refs call TD even if not sure just so they can review. And with that thinking makes it easier for them to find “conclusive” evidence to overturn
 

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So when a millimeter of the ball crosses the goal line, it’s a TD no matter what. But when a guy has control and 2 feet in bounds, it may not be a catch.

They need to destroy 80% of the NFL rule book. It’s insane.
 

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The snow on the field makes the "survive the ground" rule more rigorous. Players will now spend 2-4 seconds sliding along the ground, instead of coming quickly to a stop, and so there are more chances for them to lose control momentarily.
 

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feel like sometimes the refs call TD even if not sure just so they can review. And with that thinking makes it easier for them to find “conclusive” evidence to overturn
In this case the official who signalled TD could not see that the ball was lying on the receiver's stomach before it was fully secured OOB.
 

HomeRunBaker

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Is there a list of what is considered a “football move?” Is getting your feet in bounds a football move?
The ball was jarred loose during the priciest of getting both feet down. Once he regained possession then he now has to survive the ground. Milano is the one who made the play there.
 

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A hallway depicting and explaining all the different iterations of the catch rule would be an amazing exhibit at the Football Hall of Fame.
 

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They are saying he didn't have full control of the ball until he was out of bounds.

Fully possessing in bounds is a requirement for a catch (which is why that'd still be a catch if it was anywhere else but the back of the end zone)
I get why they changed the call. My point is, if you show that play to someone who knows the basics of football but doesn’t know the specific catch rule, 100% of them are going to say that’s a catch.
 

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I hate the end zone reception rules. A run just needs the tip of the football to break the plane and it’s a touchdown. It can be fumbled right after and the TD stands. A reception requires so much more. Chase caught it with two feet in the end zone, but he has to control it to the ground. Makes no sense to me.
 

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The NFL has somehow come full circle and created a rules structure that's worse than the era when Calvin Johnson got jobbed. Remarkable.
 

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So when a millimeter of the ball crosses the goal line, it’s a TD no matter what. But when a guy has control and 2 feet in bounds, it may not be a catch.

They need to destroy 80% of the NFL rule book. It’s insane.
That's kind of where I'm at. I acknowledge that by the rules they called what they did, but I propose the end zone is treated differently than a normal sideline judgment based on your first point. You literally possess the ball for a millisecond with your feet down and it is good, in my future state.
 

Ed Hillel

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The ball was jarred loose during that football move. Once he regained possession then he now has to survive the ground. Milano is the one who made the play there.
Right, but he also looked down and made an effort to get his feet in bounds when he regained possession. I feel like a toe tap is a football move by layman’s terms, but maybe not by the NFL rulebook.
 

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That's kind of where I'm at. I acknowledge that by the rules they called what they did, but I propose the end zone is treated differently than a normal sideline judgment based on your first point. You literally possess the ball for a millisecond with your feet down and it is good, in my future state.
Why would a catch in the end zone be different than a catch in the field of play? Does this “millisecond” rule apply to interceptions by the defense in the end zone?
 

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On the contrary, theirs was the closest of filial relationships. Bart was anything but stuffy and judgmental — Paul had even considered Classics as a Yale undergrad, but stayed with the theatre and felt no pressure from his dad to course correct. (Paul and I have been close friends since 1991). And no one I know reads more classics (or any literature, for that matter), than Paul.

Now Marcus, Bart’s other son, might give him some reason for disappointment…

I have not yet given him shit for the Verizon campaign, but I will.
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