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You think Bey's an upgrade over Hauser? My guess is that Hauser is better defensively, and certainly is shooting better overall.
Nope but with our luck, the Heat acquire Bey and he goes 80 percent from 3 in the playoffs, like a supercharged superCaleb. Just keep him away from any contender, please.
 

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Korkmaz is finally free.

Seems like a perfectly cromulent deal for Philly. I guess there is a chance Embiid comes back, is good, and they go on a playoff run.
 

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If you dig into Buddy’s history you may find some clues. That’s my guess.
Yeah, Indy never seemed enthused about him. He was the salary to get Halliburton. Now he's an expiring, and they get some 2nds to move on. Can turn those into a back-of-rotation player later (or today).
 

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Seems like a steep price to get Olynyk, but it makes sense for Toronto to get some shooting with size:

View: https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1755615780115267771?s=20
I think Agbaji is important to the deal too.

He was the 14th pick in 2022, maybe Toronto sees something they can unlock in him. The 1st round pick should be like 27th or so so not a huge loss there.

Still interesting in the sense that Toronto appears to be adding, which I'm not quite sure is the right move
 

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I think Agbaji is important to the deal too.

He was the 14th pick in 2022, maybe Toronto sees something they can unlock in him. The 1st round pick should be like 27th or so so not a huge loss there.

Still interesting in the sense that Toronto appears to be adding, which I'm not quite sure is the right move
Masai has quietly been a terrible GM since the Kawhi season. He's consistently failed to get value for vets, added into losing teams, just a mess.
 

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Why do the Raptors bother? To have a Canadian to root for? They really should be rebuilding.
The Raptors have one of the strongest fan bases in the league and they love rooting for their fellow countryman. They aren’t competing for a title anytime soon and keeping their fan base engaged is a part of Masai’s responsibility.

I do keep laughing at how Olynyk continues ending up in rebuilding spots when his skillset is that of a role guy on a real good team.
 

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Presti is also a shark. Another nifty move. Hayward feels like the rare veteran who can fit in seamlessly with a young team like OKC.

Welcome back from NBA purgatory Gordo!
 

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Presti is also a shark. Another nifty move. Hayward feels like the rare veteran who can fit in seamlessly with a young team like OKC.

Welcome back from NBA purgatory Gordo!
What has happened to his 3-point shooting? He's playing 32 mins/game this year, but only taking 2.4 3s. I haven't watched Charlotte at all, so no clue what's going on there.
 

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Presti is also a shark. Another nifty move. Hayward feels like the rare veteran who can fit in seamlessly with a young team like OKC.

Welcome back from NBA purgatory Gordo!
Maybe he can be a difference maker on OKC which already has a very good team. Hayward has been declining for years but is still a good all around player. A good career move for him. Hayward will likely replace Dort in OKC’s starting rotation.
 

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Don't get that from Indy's perspective.

And Korkmaz finally got his request!
Hield and IND couldn't come to an agreement on an extension; Hield was not going to re-sign with IND; IND trying to get something for him. https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nba/pacers/2023/09/26/pacers-buddy-hield-contract-talks-are-at-a-halt-trade-not-imminent/70853105007/

I think Agbaji is important to the deal too.

He was the 14th pick in 2022, maybe Toronto sees something they can unlock in him. The 1st round pick should be like 27th or so so not a huge loss there.

Still interesting in the sense that Toronto appears to be adding, which I'm not quite sure is the right move
TOR owes SAS its 1st round pick unless it falls in top 6; they are 4 games out of the play-in; maybe they think they should go that way instead of rely on the lottery gods to try to save their pick since they 5 worst teams in the league are pretty locked in.

And while I've not followed UT at all this year, I'm kind of surprised UT is trading Agbaji as last year people were talking about him as a core piece.
 

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Maybe he can be a difference maker on OKC which already has a very good team. Hayward has been declining for years but is still a good all around player. A good career move for him. Hayward will likely replace Dort in OKC’s starting rotation.
I think OKC is looking for him to be more of a connector than a difference maker but it will be interesting to see how he fits in given all of the other guys in OKC who will have the ball/shots.

OKC also has to figure out how to keep on the court once he comes back (he hasn't played since late December). But low-risk move for OKC.

But I'm glad Gordon went to OKC and not some other contender (PHI, if Embiid came back).
 

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Maybe he can be a difference maker on OKC which already has a very good team. Hayward has been declining for years but is still a good all around player. A good career move for him. Hayward will likely replace Dort in OKC’s starting rotation.
I guess it's possible, but I wouldn't bet on him replacing Dort in the starting rotation. Maybe in time, but Dort fills a key role, and it's not like the first unit needs aa lot more scoring punch
 

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What has happened to his 3-point shooting? He's playing 32 mins/game this year, but only taking 2.4 3s. I haven't watched Charlotte at all, so no clue what's going on there.
The Hornets and Pistons are generally too sad to follow. But I am throwing out a lot of Hayward's performance in CLT if only because they are the NBA version of non-playable characters. That franchise has been rudderless for what seems like forever.
 

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Yeah, that Utah-Tor deal is odd in both directions. I'd have guessed Utah could get more for Olynyk+Agbaji, and not really sure why Toronto is buying.

Not impossible Toronto thinks they can flip Kelly again, but gets messy with waiving physicals and such this close to deadline.

I wonder if that actually ends up as a three-team deal, with Kelly O ending up elsewhere
 

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Maybe he can be a difference maker on OKC which already has a very good team. Hayward has been declining for years but is still a good all around player. A good career move for him. Hayward will likely replace Dort in OKC’s starting rotation.
I think it's very unlikely he gets through any considerable minutes without being injured at this point. They should let him play on the second unit, in low leverage situations, etc. He's a good vet piece but really would not have high expectations.
 

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You think Bey's an upgrade over Hauser? My guess is that Hauser is better defensively, and certainly is shooting better overall.
Why not both?

i think the biggest advantage to adding Bey, or someone like him, is to add another non-big to the rotation that can play instead of Pritchard if they run into a matchup where Pritchard is getting picked on defensively.
 

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The Knicks have some depth again assuming they get guys back from injuries. At full strength now:

Robinson
Randle
Anunoby
DiVincenzo
Brunson

Hartenstein
Hart
Bogdanovic
Burks

McBride
Achiuwa
 

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Great deal for Knicks---nets out to Burks/Bojan for Grimes and 2 2nds...that's a very nice value.
 

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The Knicks are now a bit scarier. Damn.
And they replaced Fournier's salary with Bogdanovic's (which they'll pick up for next year) and kept all their first round picks, so they can still make one big move this summer or next year if someone becomes available.
 

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I guess it's possible, but I wouldn't bet on him replacing Dort in the starting rotation. Maybe in time, but Dort fills a key role, and it's not like the first unit needs aa lot more scoring punch
Interesting. Hayward is probably at the stage of his career where coming off the bench makes sense.
 

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The Raptors have one of the strongest fan bases in the league and they love rooting for their fellow countryman. They aren’t competing for a title anytime soon and keeping their fan base engaged is a part of Masai’s responsibility.

I do keep laughing at how Olynyk continues ending up in rebuilding spots when his skillset is that of a role guy on a real good team.
You're so right about Olynk. He'd be a great fit on a ton of contenders. The notion that he'll be dealt again makes sense, but then you're also right that Canadians love rooting for Canadians, so maybe he'll stay in place for a bit.
 

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The Knicks are now a bit scarier. Damn.
Obvious but it's all health with them now. They're going to field a G-league team tonight against Dallas (I'm assuming Brunson will be resting his turned ankle), and not because of outgoing players in this trade, but because they have their top 4 players all out, 2 of which will probably have offseason surgery and another recovering from major ankle surgery. They could easily tire out or lose remaining players with Thibs riding them that much harder to fill minutes.

With everybody healthy, they should be in a dogfight for the #2 seed, but at this point that is starting to seem unlikely.

Edit: G-league probably an exaggeration, but it's a role player squad of Achiuwa, Hartenstein, DiVincenzo, and Hart at this point.
 

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Obvious but it's all health with them now. They're going to field a G-league team tonight against Dallas (I'm assuming Brunson will be resting his turned ankle), and not because of outgoing players in this trade, but because they have their top 4 players all out, 2 of which will probably have offseason surgery and another recovering from major ankle surgery. They could easily tire out or lose remaining players with Thibs riding them that much harder to fill minutes.

With everybody healthy, they should be in a dogfight for the #2 seed, but at this point that is starting to seem unlikely.

Edit: G-league probably an exaggeration, but it's a role player squad of Achiuwa, Hartenstein, DiVincenzo, and Hart at this point.
The GM may save Thibs from himself by giving him so many players deserving of minutes that he can't ride his starters into the ground without causing lockerroom turmoil.
 

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And they replaced Fournier's salary with Bogdanovic's (which they'll pick up for next year) and kept all their first round picks, so they can still make one big move this summer or next year if someone becomes available.
NYK's front office keeps on making good moves.

Bogdanovic against other teams' benches will be a win.

The rumor was that Detroit was holding out for 2 Firsts last year on Bogie
 

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NYK's front office keeps on making good moves.

Bogdanovic against other teams' benches will be a win.

The rumor was that Detroit was holding out for 2 Firsts last year on Bogie
The Pistons FO is a joke.

Troy Weaver should have been fired the second he went to ownership to get them to approve a Godfather offer to Monty Williams (a clear indication Weaver was just trying to save his ass since Williams was never the right fit to coach this team).

You're right on the rumor about Bogie....and they end up trading him for scraps and 2 2nd round picks. Awful
 

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I think Agbaji is important to the deal too.

He was the 14th pick in 2022, maybe Toronto sees something they can unlock in him. The 1st round pick should be like 27th or so so not a huge loss there.

Still interesting in the sense that Toronto appears to be adding, which I'm not quite sure is the right move
i like this move a lot for Toronto.

they’re just dealing a pick at the end of this years first round, a draft that everyone in the league appears to be pretty low on, for a young lottery ticket guy that they like and Olynyk. I’d guess they’ll re-sign Olynyk this summer. They might even be able to flip Olynyk at next years deadline if he re-signs for draft compensation pretty close to what they just gave up.
 

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Detroit is like the jackass in your fantasy league who doesn't even try and then does bad trades just to piss everyone off.
 

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Seems like a steep price to get Olynyk, but it makes sense for Toronto to get some shooting with size:

View: https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1755615780115267771?s=20
Wow, cross KO off the list. Maybe he just wanted to be in Canada.

I really don't get it from Toronto's perspective, though. They just put some assets into acquiring and then extending Jakob Poeltl. They probably won't do the same with Olynyk, and they can't be viewing him as a rental since they just traded their two franchise players (Siakam and Anunoby) so they're fully into rebuilding phase.

The Raptors have one of the strongest fan bases in the league and they love rooting for their fellow countryman. They aren’t competing for a title anytime soon and keeping their fan base engaged is a part of Masai’s responsibility.
Maybe we should see what we can get for Brissett, then...