Mike'd Up: The Mike Francesa Show
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Yup, it was all over the NYC-local and national morning shows. I'm kind of surprised that it's getting this much attention.ifmanis5 said:
Me too. But it's a non-sports sports story on a topic that appeals to women and there's Mike (and Boomer) who make really good ready-made creeps. It's click fodder for a large demographic. You'll quite likely see this on World News tonight.Omar's Wacky Neighbor said:
I really don't get it.
From the reports, Murphy will be missing just a couple of days, right?
So if they hadn't referred to it as 'paternity leave', would anyone have an issue with this at all?
I suspect the phrase itself, which is probably fairly unfamiliar to a large segment of the male, meathead, population, is what is triggering people's alarm bells as a "Pussy Modern Liberal Thing" or the like.
My personal feeling is that there are a shit load of athletes who are horrible role models as parents. Hell, people get on Tom Brady's case simply for having a kid out of wedlock, and calling him a "bad example" whenever its convenient, and he doesn't even rate as a bad father in the pro sports world. And then when a guy actually does the good, father-like, thing and takes a couple of days to support his wife and kid, people shit all over him.
I'm not one of those people that thinks athletes need to, or even should be, role models for our kids, but jesus christ. This reaction is so over-the-stop backwards and misogynistic to boot, it's infuriating.
From the reports, Murphy will be missing just a couple of days, right?
So if they hadn't referred to it as 'paternity leave', would anyone have an issue with this at all?
I suspect the phrase itself, which is probably fairly unfamiliar to a large segment of the male, meathead, population, is what is triggering people's alarm bells as a "Pussy Modern Liberal Thing" or the like.
My personal feeling is that there are a shit load of athletes who are horrible role models as parents. Hell, people get on Tom Brady's case simply for having a kid out of wedlock, and calling him a "bad example" whenever its convenient, and he doesn't even rate as a bad father in the pro sports world. And then when a guy actually does the good, father-like, thing and takes a couple of days to support his wife and kid, people shit all over him.
I'm not one of those people that thinks athletes need to, or even should be, role models for our kids, but jesus christ. This reaction is so over-the-stop backwards and misogynistic to boot, it's infuriating.
Mike really didn't have a problem with Murphy missing the 2 games. But he was incredulous when he heard there were paternity leave laws. Called it a scam. I mean he saw the birth of his kids but didn't miss a day of work.
drleather2001 said:
No, of course not. That sort of thing would require 30 seconds on Google.
He was assuming it was all paid but also doesn't think men need to be home with a babydrleather2001 said:
I'm not surprised at hearing this opinion from that shitbag Francesca. But Boomer? An athlete that has a child with a fairly severe disease (CF) that carries a low/mid life expectancy? I'm kind of surprised that he would have such a stance against a father spending time with his newborn.
From all accounts, Murphy's child is healthy. But to be criticized for being around for the birth and a few days after seems over the top for me. I guess they are getting the attention that they were looking for.
From all accounts, Murphy's child is healthy. But to be criticized for being around for the birth and a few days after seems over the top for me. I guess they are getting the attention that they were looking for.
Their stupidity has no boundaries.
This wasn't the 7th game of the World Series.
And how do they know there weren't any complications at any point in time during the pregnancy?
Perhaps merely getting pregnant was a major challenge for the couple?
There are a million questions that Daniel Murphy doesn't have to answer.
Eff them and their idiocy and good for Murphy to witness and be a part of the incredible event.
This wasn't the 7th game of the World Series.
And how do they know there weren't any complications at any point in time during the pregnancy?
Perhaps merely getting pregnant was a major challenge for the couple?
There are a million questions that Daniel Murphy doesn't have to answer.
Eff them and their idiocy and good for Murphy to witness and be a part of the incredible event.
Joe Mauer took a few days to be with his wife/kids when he had twins last year.
Jokes about the Twins sucking aside, nobody gave him shit for it.
Jokes about the Twins sucking aside, nobody gave him shit for it.
Players have been leaving their teams to be with their wives when they gave birth for years. It's never been given a lot of attention.
This particular story seems to have gotten traction for three reasons...it's New York, the player missed Opening Day of all games, and the oh so foreign phrase "paternity leave" was used to describe his absence. If this had been a random game in June and they simply said Murphy was away from the team to attend the birth of his child, everyone would have ignored it.
This particular story seems to have gotten traction for three reasons...it's New York, the player missed Opening Day of all games, and the oh so foreign phrase "paternity leave" was used to describe his absence. If this had been a random game in June and they simply said Murphy was away from the team to attend the birth of his child, everyone would have ignored it.
joe dokes said:
Actually, the the knuckle-draggers are the folks who call in and get most of the attention, but the listening audience (which is a different and much more upscale demographic) is supposed to be amused by the conversation, not repelled.
Esiason is the one who really stepped in it here. He's a fundraising dynamo for his cystic fibrosis foundation and a big part of his success is based on an image that threads the needle between being a tough ex-jock and a sensitive, responsible family man. He just took a blowtorch to that image and he is now in desperate damage-control mode. As he should be.
Average Reds said:
I enjoy Boomer and think he's a good guy, but IMO when I heard him shit on Murphy for taking the day off to be a dad/supportive husband, I thought he was way way off base. Given some of the challenges Boomer has had as a father, I would have thought he would have known that the role of a father can entail lots of responsibilities, and may bump into some other responsibilities, and some prioritization is necessary. To suggest a fucking baseball game is more important that being supportive to a wife when she may need love/support or whatever for some brief period of time, and she should get a C-section, was beyond insensitive.
It's worse than that. He said a wife of a pro athlete should undergo invasive, major, surgery, and ignore any negative consequence to the child, to accommodate the schedule of her husband.
Why? Because the husband brings home the bacon.
That's, like, Henry VIII level shit right there.
Why? Because the husband brings home the bacon.
That's, like, Henry VIII level shit right there.
Boomer is sorry he's really sorry.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/boomer-esiason-mets-daniel-murphy-apologize-article-1.1745513
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/boomer-esiason-mets-daniel-murphy-apologize-article-1.1745513
Honestly, he almost comes off worse with his apology. He feels bad because now Murphy and his wife are under the spotlight? He feels bad that they were dragged into the conversation? What a dipshit. Of course they are in the spotlight! You are talking about them specifically. I always enjoyed his appearances on D&C on Mondays, and overall with CBS, but he is not covering himself in glory here at all.drleather2001 said:
I wonder if his wife let him have it, or even people from his foundation? I don't think people are just going to stop donating to his charity, but you can't have the face of said charity acting like a dick on the radio.
drleather2001 said:
But he wasn't talking about the FMLA. He was referring to both the MLBPA and WFAN policies, which provide for paid leave.
Not saying I agree with him, but the FMLA and unpaid leave have nothing to to with this.
Killed FS1 for "putting people to sleep" with their soccer coverage that pre-empted his simulcast this week. Ratings were at least 5x higher for soccer...
I tune in to Boomer & Carton a couple times a week, and honestly the more I listen to Boomer the less I like him. This latest episode just reaffirms that.bankshot1 said:
Murphy was away for three freaking days. His absence was simply not worthy of a mention, never mind criticism. You would think Boomer and Francesa could find other things to complain about.
He fucked up and apologized.I think that for all the super-sized egos that know-it-all, that tends to gravitate to sports/media, he's ok.8slim said:
bankshot1 said:
Again, this is not what the problem is for Esiason. His biggest priority is the Boomer Esiason Foundation. Over the years he's raised something absurd like $100 million for it. (And I have no idea whether the number is inflated or not. I got that from a Frank Deford report on HBO's Real Sports.)
The people he's raising money from are the men and women who run Corporate America. And while they love supporting worthy causes headed by charismatic, tough (but sensitive) ex-jocks, they don't love supporting foundations that are headed by Neanderthals who think that women should schedule c-sections to avoid interfering with their husband's responsibilities playing football or baseball.
Esiason has already reached out to the Mets and Murphy - although Murphy has not talked to him - but if he doesn't move off the passive, "mistakes were made" nonsense that he's peddling now, his foundation will feel the consequences.
I'm not defending the guy. I couldn't believe I heard what he said. I thought it beyond insensitive and bordered on the moronic, and may have been as reflective of the testosterone man-cave he resides in 6-10AM, than his deeply held feelings about traditional male roles.Average Reds said:
But I think that upon the criticism he received and some reflection he was truly apologetic. and sincere with his apology. I've no idea to what extent his insensitvity/stupidity will hurt his fund raising activites, but i suspect he has built up a fair amount of goodwil among the heavy hitters he depends on. If they don't forgive him and put away their check books, that will be an unfortunate side-effect of his momentary alpha-male posturing and stupidity.
I don't even care all that much about this gaffe. He said something stupid, but his show is more shock radio than anything introspective, so I expect it at this point.bankshot1 said:
But to your point, Boomer has a massive ego and is a total know it all. The sports minutes he does are absolute garbage, not a second of thoughtful commentary in them.
I vastly prefer Carton, and that's saying something. But you know, different strokes and all that. Not saying I'm right.
Agreed the sports minute is a waste, but Im not sure that Boomer's minute is any more or less insipid than than others.
And agreed that B&C is more shock than traditional sports radio. But I expect the shock to come from Carton and not Boomer. I like their chemistry, and am entertained for the 40 minutes or so I listen to them. They remind me of Martin & Lewis, where Boomer's Martin reels in and balances Carton's Lewis wackiness.
And agreed that B&C is more shock than traditional sports radio. But I expect the shock to come from Carton and not Boomer. I like their chemistry, and am entertained for the 40 minutes or so I listen to them. They remind me of Martin & Lewis, where Boomer's Martin reels in and balances Carton's Lewis wackiness.
Jenny Johnson @JennyJohnsonHi5 3h
"Could you hurry the fuck up? I was supposed to meet the guys at Hooters like yesterday." - Boomer Esiason to his wife during childbirth
"Could you hurry the fuck up? I was supposed to meet the guys at Hooters like yesterday." - Boomer Esiason to his wife during childbirth
The difference being that Mike is using it to pat himself on the back about how right he was regarding the dangers of athletes using Twitter. For a guy who conveniently ignores or denies every wrong prediction he makes, Fatso sure loves to crow when he thinks he's made one that turned out to be right.scottyno said:
Mike loves to bash the "JV" Mets for being JV at every moment he can so that's what he'll do. Again.Stu Nahan said:
ESPN will jump on anything trendy and "hip" like Twitter since they know social media stories will appeal to a younger demographic which they covet.
"Embarrassing night for the Yankees and Pineda got laughed out of the ballpark... no other way to describe it."
"Farrell gave perfect answer before the game... hope he's discreet..."
"If you took a towel or bar of soap from a hotel, no one would do anything... if you start walking out with TVs, they're going to start doing something."
We know everyone does this, the pitchers and managers told us that everyone does it, but they haven't made pine tar legal for pitchers. Unwritten rule that if you don't use a lot of it and don't put it right in front of our noses, nothing will be said.
"Got banged around first inning... had nothing on the ball... goes in and threw the stuff all over his neck and ran out on the mound. In the inning, he started pitching better. The Red Sox said, 'Wait a minute, we'll put a stop to this.' And you could tell Cashman was VERY upset at the Yankees."
"Girardi's not dumb... have to believe he didn't see it and do anything."
"Don't think Yankees will start undressing all the Red Sox now. There was an unwritten rule, and the Yankees broke it, and we all know it."
"Farrell gave perfect answer before the game... hope he's discreet..."
"If you took a towel or bar of soap from a hotel, no one would do anything... if you start walking out with TVs, they're going to start doing something."
We know everyone does this, the pitchers and managers told us that everyone does it, but they haven't made pine tar legal for pitchers. Unwritten rule that if you don't use a lot of it and don't put it right in front of our noses, nothing will be said.
"Got banged around first inning... had nothing on the ball... goes in and threw the stuff all over his neck and ran out on the mound. In the inning, he started pitching better. The Red Sox said, 'Wait a minute, we'll put a stop to this.' And you could tell Cashman was VERY upset at the Yankees."
"Girardi's not dumb... have to believe he didn't see it and do anything."
"Don't think Yankees will start undressing all the Red Sox now. There was an unwritten rule, and the Yankees broke it, and we all know it."
Amazingly objective, sensible, fair comments from the big fella. Oh how I wish the Dog was still there to goad him into his default position of bloviating MFY apologist. Much more fun that way.
cornwalls@6 said:
despite Mike's pompous nature, when the 2 of them were on fire back in the day, there was never a sports talk show that came close.
it was once must listen at 1:05 no matter where I was - peak years were the 90's.
