Memphis Grizzlies 2019-2020

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Your 2019-20 Memphis Grizzlies (updated for CJ Miles trade and Avery Bradley waiver)

C - Jonas Valanciunis, Miles Plumlee
PF - Jaren Jackson, Josh Jackson, Brandon Clarke (R)
SF - Kyle Anderson, Jae Crowder, Dillon Brooks, Solomon Hill
SG - Andre Iguodala, Grayson Allen, Marko Guduric
PG - Ja Morant (R), De'Anthony Melton (Delon Wright (RFA) expected to re-sign for the full mid-level exception)

(Assumes non-guaranteed contracts of Ivan Rabb and Bruno Caboclo are not picked up)
 

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Split off from the Offseason Thread. We'll be following the misfortunes of the Grizz all year long to see when the Memphis pick conveys to Boston.
 

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Not a total train wreck given JJJ and Morant, but on paper they are worse than everyone but Phoenix in the West, pending further moves by OKC. The East is bad but all those bad teams get to play each other and somebody has to win.

Another exciting year in the tankathon.
 

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I expect Iggy to be traded or bought out before the season so he should be off this list too. You have a bunch of useful role players but when you have useful role players and a couple 20-year olds with no hope of winning the role players become less useful. Tankathon baby!!
 

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Delon Wright dealt today, he was usable. Valanciunis may be trade bait on ~Dec 15th

15 teams in the West.
last years 8 playoff teams & Lakers will destroy Memphis
Sacramento, Dallas much better than Memphis
Phoenix, Minn, New Orleans all better than Memphis

A handful of East teams will stink also but the West will tattoo the Grizz. Their schedule will be ugly, don't see how they stay out of the bottom 3.
 

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Sure seems like their plan is a one-year bottom out, get a top six pick, and then presumably start to build once Ja has his feet wet. I don't know anything about the strengths of the 2020 or 2021 drafts, but in the abstract, that's a sensible plan.
 

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Sure seems like their plan is a one-year bottom out, get a top six pick, and then presumably start to build once Ja has his feet wet. I don't know anything about the strengths of the 2020 or 2021 drafts, but in the abstract, that's a sensible plan.
Which year are HS players eligible for the draft? That projects to be the year to be stockpiling picks for a rebuilding team.
 

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The expectation right now is 2022, but that remains somewhat in flux. At one point it was 2021, but that got pushed back.
 

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Darn, I was really hoping for 2021 and the Memphis pick.
If that Memphis pick is as valuable as I'd always hoped it would be it could be strategically used in trade to push it back a year if that class warrants. I'm sure there will be GM's desperate enough to want a high lottery pick to shed a year off their rebuilding to where Ainge could potentially pants a guy.
 

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Good call. That could even come into play this year if the pick is 8 or so: the best value in these things generally comes when a team really wants to move from 14 to 8 or whatever.
 

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Good call. That could even come into play this year if the pick is 8 or so: the best value in these things generally comes when a team really wants to move from 14 to 8 or whatever.
Something weird has to happen for that pick to fall to 8, doesn't it? I dont think that there are too many teams worse than Memphis. I know, Sacramento, but still.
 

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Something weird has to happen for that pick to fall to 8, doesn't it? I dont think that there are too many teams worse than Memphis. I know, Sacramento, but still.
The Eastern conference still counts :)

More importantly, with the new lottery odds it’s easy for 2-3 teams to jump you.
 

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The Eastern conference still counts :)

More importantly, with the new lottery odds it’s easy for 2-3 teams to jump you.
Not taking anything for granted of course, but they seem like a team destined to struggle badly next year. If I gambled, I'd put money on them not dropping to 6 even if 3 teams jump them.
 

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Charlotte, Cleveland, Phoenix, Knicks, Bullets are all likely pretty bad
Four of those teams are in the East, with much easier schedules than the Grizzlies who will be playing a team fighting for a playoff spot almost every night.
 

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Four of those teams are in the East, with much easier schedules than the Grizzlies who will be playing a team fighting for a playoff spot almost every night.
You’d think this would matter more than it apparently does. Last season, five teams in the East had a worse record than the second-worst team in the West. Four of those five Eastern teams aren’t likely to be materially better (with Atlanta being the exception), and Charlotte figures to be as bad as anyone. So it’s not hard to imagine five of the worst six teams being in the East again.
 

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You’d think this would matter more than it apparently does. Last season, five teams in the East had a worse record than the second-worst team in the West. Four of those five Eastern teams aren’t likely to be materially better (with Atlanta being the exception), and Charlotte figures to be as bad as anyone. So it’s not hard to imagine five of the worst six teams being in the East again.
Yeah, at the end of the day, this often ends up separated by just a couple games, so organizational incentives matter a lot. It looks like the Grizzlies might have a tanking directive this year and be trying to follow the SAC and LAL path of top of the lottery -> late lottery the next year. We'll see how that goes.
 

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Yeah, at the end of the day, this often ends up separated by just a couple games, so organizational incentives matter a lot. It looks like the Grizzlies might have a tanking directive this year and be trying to follow the SAC and LAL path of top of the lottery -> late lottery the next year. We'll see how that goes.
I thought that the conventional wisdom was that they're surely tanking this year and adding one more piece. I could have heard that wrong.