Didn't see this elsewhere, but am seeing reports of a possible 3-way trade b/t the Celtics, Clippers, and Wizards that would bring Kristap to the C's and Malcom Brogdon to the Clippers.
Anyone else seeing this?
Anyone else seeing this?
Kristaps Porzingis to Celtics!!!!!
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It's been discussed in the generic Celtics offseason thread. I'd say posts there ought to be broken out into a new thread, actually.
When I saw this thread, I thought it was a done deal, until I noticed the question marks.
There are two plus pages of KP trade posts in the Celtics off season thread.
Hopefully, you can soon edit the title to replace the ???? with !!!!
I looked over there but only cursorally. I think this should be broken out as well. This ain't generic, and my most secure source of information - my Uber Celtics fan son ) - says this is happening as we speak.
Some websites are reporting this as if it's a done deal. Like this one: https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kristaps-porzingis-trade-grades-blockbuster-looks-questionable-for-all-parties-involved/
to be fair that is a guy whose analysis of the trade was overwhelmingly stupid, so he has to get out first to get the views
I hope the extension in July piece is false
Honestly I kind of wanted to see Dani play, but I understand KP is a better player expecially on D
Honestly I kind of wanted to see Dani play, but I understand KP is a better player expecially on D
Yeah I was ignoring the analysis but you are probably correct that he has no downsides to reporting the trade as done.
I'm not sure why Washington is doing this. Just let Porzingis go to FA and save the $30MM.
All that flotsam + the 30th pick isn't worth $30MM when you can buy high 2nds. ALSO that space would be valuable at the trade deadline
All that flotsam + the 30th pick isn't worth $30MM when you can buy high 2nds. ALSO that space would be valuable at the trade deadline
The returns for Beal/Porzingis/Rui are a good reminder to GMs of the downside of blowing things up too late. They have very little to build from right now.
My god, that take is painfully stupid in so many ways it’s difficult to address them all.
Save $30mm for what? They ain’t signing any big free agents and they have to pay someone. They’d still end up with a sizable trade exception from this trade I believe.
It’s not much return—but it helps clear their cap sheet and roster while also improving their 2024 pick . And while asset return is low, it’s something
10MM TPE...They could bid for some RFA and use the cap space to take on some contracts for a better first with that $30MM in space
he wasn't going to FA, word is he was opting in either way. So now they save some money (not that it matters), get a pick and a $10M TPE to use in their rebuild
How about looking it as the Boston team that was two wins from a title two seasons ago just added Porzingis to it instead of Theis? Add a cheap ring chasing wing looking to boost his stock, like JRich, and Boston would be ready to go.
Sorry I wasn't more clear - just posted the article because it talked about the trade in the past tense.
Also, thought "analysis" might get s chuckle.
I think the trade is at least a "B+" for the Cs.
Maybe we can complete Danny's dream and finally get Justise Winslow in a Celtics uniform. He'll be cheap.
You were perfectly clear. That analysis from CBSSports was trash.Sorry I wasn't more clear - just posted the article because it talked about the trade in the past tense.
Also, thought "analysis" might get s chuckle.
I think the trade is at least a "B+" for the Cs.
Brodgon was a nice luxury, but he predictably broke down in the playoffs. Adding a ridiculously tall stretch big who can also post up, and cal also get to the FT line, is more important to the Celtics’ playoff rotation than a very good PG off the bench.
Taking into consideration how well the Celtics play on the road in the playoffs, and how mediocre they play at home, their focus should be building a 7-8 man playoff juggernaut. KP is away better playoff rotation piece than Brogdon. I’d say I’d rather have my best big on the roster than my third or fourth or fifth best non-big.
yeah but that would just favor the team.
I'm going to miss Brogdon. The team was a lot better when he could be in rotation, we needed all the guard help we could get this past year and there aren't many better bench guards (considering he won Sixth Man of the Year, that's pretty much by definition). And anyone who's happy to see Brogdon go because of "durability" had better be sitting down when they look at Porzingis's games-played log. Brogdon got a hand injury at the wrong time of year but had otherwise been very durable for us.
Played...
Past tense. What prognotive insight do you have that pattern will continue? I think it is at least a 4-sigma outlier, but that' just a hunch...I'm surprised NBA.ref doesn't have a home-road splits (or if they do I can't find it)
Yeah I’m going to miss him too, he’s also a very easy guy to root for, which in the last few years had become much more important to me as a fan. That being said, I don’t even think it’s his fault, I don’t think any of us expected White to make the jump/grow comfortable like he did. When we acquired Brogdon, I easily viewed White as the odd man out if we needed to trade a guard. Now he is the easy keep and Brogdon is the odd man out. It was nice depth to have but the team had other more pressing needs.
Plus, any player we get in that slot is going to have a flaw, but for KP it’s health and if he’s good for the playoffs it’s one of the best possible outcomes of a trade of Brogdon
edit: or what @Devizier said with way fewer(less? You jerks have me unsure of myself) wasted words
Don’t think so. Porzingis just needs to opt in before that deadline to secure his 36 mill for next year.
Maybe Zinger opts out so he can get a bigger deal? Simmons was saying something like that the other day I thought
I blame the Orcas.
I like KP but at least we won't have to say a daily prayer for the health of his lower extremities.
I like KP but at least we won't have to say a daily prayer for the health of his lower extremities.
I'd guess the Wizards.
the 30th pick wasn't enough to take on all that flotsam (what I said an hour ago)
Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
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The Wizards are still working on ways to get Kristaps Porzingis to the Celtics in an opt-in and trade scenario, but it won't be in a three-way with the Clippers, sources tell ESPN. Porzingis still has the ability to decline his $36 million player option and become a free agent.
@wojespn
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The Wizards are still working on ways to get Kristaps Porzingis to the Celtics in an opt-in and trade scenario, but it won't be in a three-way with the Clippers, sources tell ESPN. Porzingis still has the ability to decline his $36 million player option and become a free agent.
Edit- wonder is WAS/BOS try to find a new 3rd team and the Wizards go back to the Clippers with an offer of Chris Paul (probably don't get 30, but maybe?)
So new Woj tweet makes it seem that the Clippers/Wizards portion was the issue:
View: https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1671707757467107328
So new Woj tweet makes it seem that the Clippers/Wizards portion was the issue:
View: https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1671707757467107328
Marc Stein
@TheSteinLine
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Concerns raised by the Clippers about Malcolm Brogdon's injury status, league sources say, led to the collapse of the three-team trade expected to send Kristaps Porzingis to Boston before midnight tonight. A direct Wizards/Celtics deal has not been ruled out.
@TheSteinLine
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Concerns raised by the Clippers about Malcolm Brogdon's injury status, league sources say, led to the collapse of the three-team trade expected to send Kristaps Porzingis to Boston before midnight tonight. A direct Wizards/Celtics deal has not been ruled out.
Could still be the Wiz, they didn't like what LAC was offerring enough, Clippers backed out rather than up the package and now BOS/WAS go to the other teams with Brogdon interest looking for better assets for LAC.
Edit- Ah Stein's point makes sense, not willing to trade the pick with Brogdon currently injured, since they couldn't really unwind it once WAS has picked a player.
Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
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Sides are working under a midnight ET deadline on Porzingis' $36M player option.
@wojespn
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Sides are working under a midnight ET deadline on Porzingis' $36M player option.
Well this is great. So now Brogdon is damaged goods, that’ll really help his trade value.