Kristaps Porzingis to Celtics!!!!!

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Didn't see this elsewhere, but am seeing reports of a possible 3-way trade b/t the Celtics, Clippers, and Wizards that would bring Kristap to the C's and Malcom Brogdon to the Clippers.

Anyone else seeing this?
 

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It's been discussed in the generic Celtics offseason thread. I'd say posts there ought to be broken out into a new thread, actually.
 

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Didn't see this elsewhere, but am seeing reports of a possible 3-way trade b/t the Celtics, Clippers, and Wizards that would bring Kristap to the C's and Malcom Brogdon to the Clippers.

Anyone else seeing this?
When I saw this thread, I thought it was a done deal, until I noticed the question marks.

There are two plus pages of KP trade posts in the Celtics off season thread.

Hopefully, you can soon edit the title to replace the ???? with !!!!
 

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I looked over there but only cursorally. I think this should be broken out as well. This ain't generic, and my most secure source of information - my Uber Celtics fan son ) - says this is happening as we speak.
 

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I hope the extension in July piece is false
Honestly I kind of wanted to see Dani play, but I understand KP is a better player expecially on D
 

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I'm not sure why Washington is doing this. Just let Porzingis go to FA and save the $30MM.

All that flotsam + the 30th pick isn't worth $30MM when you can buy high 2nds. ALSO that space would be valuable at the trade deadline
 

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I'm not sure why Washington is doing this. Just let Porzingis go to FA and save the $30MM.

All that flotsam + the 30th pick isn't worth $30MM when you can buy high 2nds. ALSO that space would be valuable at the trade deadline
The returns for Beal/Porzingis/Rui are a good reminder to GMs of the downside of blowing things up too late. They have very little to build from right now.
 

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I'm not sure why Washington is doing this. Just let Porzingis go to FA and save the $30MM.

All that flotsam + the 30th pick isn't worth $30MM when you can buy high 2nds. ALSO that space would be valuable at the trade deadline
Save $30mm for what? They ain’t signing any big free agents and they have to pay someone. They’d still end up with a sizable trade exception from this trade I believe.
 

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I'm not sure why Washington is doing this. Just let Porzingis go to FA and save the $30MM.

All that flotsam + the 30th pick isn't worth $30MM when you can buy high 2nds. ALSO that space would be valuable at the trade deadline
It’s not much return—but it helps clear their cap sheet and roster while also improving their 2024 pick . And while asset return is low, it’s something
 

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Save $30mm for what? They ain’t signing any big free agents and they have to pay someone. They’d still end up with a sizable trade exception from this trade I believe.
10MM TPE...They could bid for some RFA and use the cap space to take on some contracts for a better first with that $30MM in space
 

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I'm not sure why Washington is doing this. Just let Porzingis go to FA and save the $30MM.

All that flotsam + the 30th pick isn't worth $30MM when you can buy high 2nds. ALSO that space would be valuable at the trade deadline
he wasn't going to FA, word is he was opting in either way. So now they save some money (not that it matters), get a pick and a $10M TPE to use in their rebuild
 

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How about looking it as the Boston team that was two wins from a title two seasons ago just added Porzingis to it instead of Theis? Add a cheap ring chasing wing looking to boost his stock, like JRich, and Boston would be ready to go.
Sorry I wasn't more clear - just posted the article because it talked about the trade in the past tense.

Also, thought "analysis" might get s chuckle.

I think the trade is at least a "B+" for the Cs. :)
 

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How about looking it as the Boston team that was two wins from a title two seasons ago just added Porzingis to it instead of Theis? Add a cheap ring chasing wing looking to boost his stock, like JRich, and Boston would be ready to go.
Maybe we can complete Danny's dream and finally get Justise Winslow in a Celtics uniform. He'll be cheap.
 

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Sorry I wasn't more clear - just posted the article because it talked about the trade in the past tense.

Also, thought "analysis" might get s chuckle.

I think the trade is at least a "B+" for the Cs. :)
You were perfectly clear. That analysis from CBSSports was trash.

Brodgon was a nice luxury, but he predictably broke down in the playoffs. Adding a ridiculously tall stretch big who can also post up, and cal also get to the FT line, is more important to the Celtics’ playoff rotation than a very good PG off the bench.

Taking into consideration how well the Celtics play on the road in the playoffs, and how mediocre they play at home, their focus should be building a 7-8 man playoff juggernaut. KP is away better playoff rotation piece than Brogdon. I’d say I’d rather have my best big on the roster than my third or fourth or fifth best non-big.
 

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I heard it could make Porzingis opt out of his deal.
yeah but that would just favor the team.


I'm going to miss Brogdon. The team was a lot better when he could be in rotation, we needed all the guard help we could get this past year and there aren't many better bench guards (considering he won Sixth Man of the Year, that's pretty much by definition). And anyone who's happy to see Brogdon go because of "durability" had better be sitting down when they look at Porzingis's games-played log. Brogdon got a hand injury at the wrong time of year but had otherwise been very durable for us.
 

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Obviously big tail risk with Porzingis but this is about as good a potential fit as you can get. And as others mentioned it balances the roster.
 

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Taking into consideration how well the Celtics play on the road in the playoffs, and how mediocre they play at home
Played...
Past tense. What prognotive insight do you have that pattern will continue? I think it is at least a 4-sigma outlier, but that' just a hunch...I'm surprised NBA.ref doesn't have a home-road splits (or if they do I can't find it)
 

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yeah but that would just favor the team.


I'm going to miss Brogdon. The team was a lot better when he could be in rotation, we needed all the guard help we could get this past year and there aren't many better bench guards (considering he won Sixth Man of the Year, that's pretty much by definition). And anyone who's happy to see Brogdon go because of "durability" had better be sitting down when they look at Porzingis's games-played log. Brogdon got a hand injury at the wrong time of year but had otherwise been very durable for us.
Yeah I’m going to miss him too, he’s also a very easy guy to root for, which in the last few years had become much more important to me as a fan. That being said, I don’t even think it’s his fault, I don’t think any of us expected White to make the jump/grow comfortable like he did. When we acquired Brogdon, I easily viewed White as the odd man out if we needed to trade a guard. Now he is the easy keep and Brogdon is the odd man out. It was nice depth to have but the team had other more pressing needs.

Plus, any player we get in that slot is going to have a flaw, but for KP it’s health and if he’s good for the playoffs it’s one of the best possible outcomes of a trade of Brogdon

edit: or what @Devizier said with way fewer(less? You jerks have me unsure of myself) wasted words
 

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Maybe Zinger opts out so he can get a bigger deal? Simmons was saying something like that the other day I thought
 

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Porzingis probably wanted an extension with a number higher than the Celtics were comfortable with
 

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The Wizards are still working on ways to get Kristaps Porzingis to the Celtics in an opt-in and trade scenario, but it won't be in a three-way with the Clippers, sources tell ESPN. Porzingis still has the ability to decline his $36 million player option and become a free agent.
 

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The Wizards are still working on ways to get Kristaps Porzingis to the Celtics in an opt-in and trade scenario, but it won't be in a three-way with the Clippers, sources tell ESPN. Porzingis still has the ability to decline his $36 million player option and become a free agent.
Can I fight Woj on the undercard of Musk/Zuck?
 

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Concerns raised by the Clippers about Malcolm Brogdon's injury status, league sources say, led to the collapse of the three-team trade expected to send Kristaps Porzingis to Boston before midnight tonight. A direct Wizards/Celtics deal has not been ruled out.
 

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Huh, would have guessed the WIz as well. Seems very alive.
Could still be the Wiz, they didn't like what LAC was offerring enough, Clippers backed out rather than up the package and now BOS/WAS go to the other teams with Brogdon interest looking for better assets for LAC.

Edit- Ah Stein's point makes sense, not willing to trade the pick with Brogdon currently injured, since they couldn't really unwind it once WAS has picked a player.
 

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Concerns raised by the Clippers about Malcolm Brogdon's injury status, league sources say, led to the collapse of the three-team trade expected to send Kristaps Porzingis to Boston before midnight tonight. A direct Wizards/Celtics deal has not been ruled out.
Sounds like bullshit, I mean come on. Unless he needs Tommy John?