QUOTE (NoXInNixon @ Jun 26 2009, 04:35 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2383611
News sucks.
Then you deserve Dennis and Callahan.
News sucks.
Then you deserve Dennis and Callahan.
Kirk and Callahan: Done
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I only caught a little bit of it, but I heard them going down this list like it was absolute truth. Perhaps I missed them talk about how much nonsense it is, but the 5ish minutes I had them on they didn't mention any of its glaring problems.
It was enough to send me back to the butt-rock Toucher and Rich play between segments.
It was enough to send me back to the butt-rock Toucher and Rich play between segments.
QUOTE (SeoulSoxFan @ Jun 30 2009, 05:48 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2389365
Then you deserve Dennis and Callahan.
I disagree.
My commute to work is roughly 25 minutes. I rarely listen to one show during that time. As soon as a commercial (Which there are no shortage of) or news break hits, I'll hit a preset or scan. The reason why I avoid the news is because, frankly, I'm still groggy and looking for something to get me going. This can be in the form of music or a funny/interesting morning show.
There are times when D&C have discussions that I find interesting, but it's rarely due to their inclusion of news and politics. My sentiment has nothing to do with my agreeing or disagreeing with their point of view, but entirely with not giving a shit to what it is. So if they hit a segment that interests me, I have no problem stopping my channel surf. It's no different than if I stop on Hot 97 or a corny morning zoo.
On a side note: John Dennis LOVES Rajon Rando.
Then you deserve Dennis and Callahan.
I disagree.
My commute to work is roughly 25 minutes. I rarely listen to one show during that time. As soon as a commercial (Which there are no shortage of) or news break hits, I'll hit a preset or scan. The reason why I avoid the news is because, frankly, I'm still groggy and looking for something to get me going. This can be in the form of music or a funny/interesting morning show.
There are times when D&C have discussions that I find interesting, but it's rarely due to their inclusion of news and politics. My sentiment has nothing to do with my agreeing or disagreeing with their point of view, but entirely with not giving a shit to what it is. So if they hit a segment that interests me, I have no problem stopping my channel surf. It's no different than if I stop on Hot 97 or a corny morning zoo.
On a side note: John Dennis LOVES Rajon Rando.
QUOTE (Haunted @ Jun 30 2009, 09:59 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2389473
I only caught a little bit of it, but I heard them going down this list like it was absolute truth. Perhaps I missed them talk about how much nonsense it is, but the 5ish minutes I had them on they didn't mention any of its glaring problems.
It was enough to send me back to the butt-rock Toucher and Rich play between segments.
Meter was, and Callahan, to his credit, said something among the lines of, "but this list is garbage, and we're wasting our time talking about it." Of course, though, he promptly went back to talking about the same firefighter story that he was ranting about last year.
The most frustrating thing is, these guys never let topics go. How long do they keep talking about Michael Jackson? I put the over/under at 10 months.
I only caught a little bit of it, but I heard them going down this list like it was absolute truth. Perhaps I missed them talk about how much nonsense it is, but the 5ish minutes I had them on they didn't mention any of its glaring problems.
It was enough to send me back to the butt-rock Toucher and Rich play between segments.
Meter was, and Callahan, to his credit, said something among the lines of, "but this list is garbage, and we're wasting our time talking about it." Of course, though, he promptly went back to talking about the same firefighter story that he was ranting about last year.
The most frustrating thing is, these guys never let topics go. How long do they keep talking about Michael Jackson? I put the over/under at 10 months.
QUOTE (Phenom @ Jun 30 2009, 10:25 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2389502
Meter was, and Callahan, to his credit, said something among the lines of, "but this list is garbage, and we're wasting our time talking about it." Of course, though, he promptly went back to talking about the same firefighter story that he was ranting about last year.
I didn't listen to the show because of this but there was a new twist to the fire fighter story. To be brief, Boston decided that beginning July 1st firefighters could not retire due to disability and receive a higher pension if they were considered filling in for a supervisor the day they were disabled. 29 firefighters retired today and 24 are scamming the state saying that they were a supervisor the day they were injured.
It's part of the reason I didn't listen because I knew this would be the topic du jour.
Meter was, and Callahan, to his credit, said something among the lines of, "but this list is garbage, and we're wasting our time talking about it." Of course, though, he promptly went back to talking about the same firefighter story that he was ranting about last year.
I didn't listen to the show because of this but there was a new twist to the fire fighter story. To be brief, Boston decided that beginning July 1st firefighters could not retire due to disability and receive a higher pension if they were considered filling in for a supervisor the day they were disabled. 29 firefighters retired today and 24 are scamming the state saying that they were a supervisor the day they were injured.
It's part of the reason I didn't listen because I knew this would be the topic du jour.
It appears that Callahan likes to fall on the right side of everything, from politics to art. Interestingly, I remember hearing him admit that one of his favorite musical artists was Steve Earle, who in Gerry's skewed view, must be a commie.
Quick recap of 715-735 today.
Caller - Who is 20?
Dennis - Who do you want it to be?
Caller - Barry Sanders
Callahan - It can't be Barry
Dennis - It's Barry Sanders
Caller 2 - Who is 45?
Dennis - Who do you want it to be .....
over and over again. Thanks ESPN, for releasing your top players per number.
Caller - Who is 20?
Dennis - Who do you want it to be?
Caller - Barry Sanders
Callahan - It can't be Barry
Dennis - It's Barry Sanders
Caller 2 - Who is 45?
Dennis - Who do you want it to be .....
over and over again. Thanks ESPN, for releasing your top players per number.
Callahan is lucky that his producers have quick fingers. He and Dennis were arguing about the merits of Michael Jackson's music vs. Joe Jackson's tunes (not MJ's father). He asked whether anyone liked "Wanna Be Starting Something" over a Joe Jackson song (can't remember what it is, could have been "Is She Really Going Out With Him?"). Pretty much everyone liked WBSS, so Callahan called Iggy a H then dead air.
I wasn't offended, but I'm sure that if he said the full word someone would have been.
I wasn't offended, but I'm sure that if he said the full word someone would have been.
That numbers guessing game was indeed terrible radio.
Hijacking: We get ESPN the Magazine here at the office and I will definitely be checking this feature out. I have to say, Favre over Orr or Gehrig at No. 4 is ESPN rump-swabbing at its finest. Also, Rick Reilly did a S.I. column on this back in the '80s. Byron should go through his bins of S.I.'s and find the issue.
Hijacking: We get ESPN the Magazine here at the office and I will definitely be checking this feature out. I have to say, Favre over Orr or Gehrig at No. 4 is ESPN rump-swabbing at its finest. Also, Rick Reilly did a S.I. column on this back in the '80s. Byron should go through his bins of S.I.'s and find the issue.
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H for "homo"?
Yeah. I guess that I forgot to put that part in, I was typing quickly. But he was definitely going to say homo.
And Rye, I think that Joe Posnanski did an awesome job of the numbers game a few months back on his Blog.
Much better than ESPN the Mag
H for "homo"?
Yeah. I guess that I forgot to put that part in, I was typing quickly. But he was definitely going to say homo.
And Rye, I think that Joe Posnanski did an awesome job of the numbers game a few months back on his Blog.
Much better than ESPN the Mag
Thanks for the link, pal.
I had no idea Joe was a footy fan. Lots of old and current players on there.
I had no idea Joe was a footy fan. Lots of old and current players on there.
That's what was so good about it because he included soccer players and hockey players and college athletes; it really ran the gamut of the sporting world.
BTW, when you say "footy" you sound like Skaus.
BTW, when you say "footy" you sound like Skaus.
QUOTE (John Marzano Olympic Hero @ Jul 1 2009, 09:06 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2392506
Callahan is lucky that his producers have quick fingers. He and Dennis were arguing about the merits of Michael Jackson's music vs. Joe Jackson's tunes (not MJ's father). He asked whether anyone liked "Wanna Be Starting Something" over a Joe Jackson song (can't remember what it is, could have been "Is She Really Going Out With Him?"). Pretty much everyone liked WBSS, so Callahan called Iggy a H then dead air.
I wasn't offended, but I'm sure that if he said the full word someone would have been.
Hell, he already said yesterday that non-Jackson 5 Michael Jackson was for gay guys and teen girls.
Callahan is lucky that his producers have quick fingers. He and Dennis were arguing about the merits of Michael Jackson's music vs. Joe Jackson's tunes (not MJ's father). He asked whether anyone liked "Wanna Be Starting Something" over a Joe Jackson song (can't remember what it is, could have been "Is She Really Going Out With Him?"). Pretty much everyone liked WBSS, so Callahan called Iggy a H then dead air.
I wasn't offended, but I'm sure that if he said the full word someone would have been.
Hell, he already said yesterday that non-Jackson 5 Michael Jackson was for gay guys and teen girls.
QUOTE (John Marzano Olympic Hero @ Jul 1 2009, 11:15 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2392696
BTW, when you say "footy" you sound like Bonger.
BTW, when you say "footy" you sound like Bonger.
Hey-o!
But I'm not australian, so I just call it football. Usually in an affected English accent and with a top hat and tails on.
But I'm not australian, so I just call it football. Usually in an affected English accent and with a top hat and tails on.
Does anybody else notice how much more bearable Meter is when Callahan isn't there?
Notice I didn't say "enjoyable," but still, it's amazing how much better he is when he can act like himself a little bit and not constantly bow-down.
Notice I didn't say "enjoyable," but still, it's amazing how much better he is when he can act like himself a little bit and not constantly bow-down.
QUOTE (Phenom @ Jul 6 2009, 12:26 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2401692
Does anybody else notice how much more bearable Meter is when Callahan isn't there?
Notice I didn't say "enjoyable," but still, it's amazing how much better he is when he can act like himself a little bit and not constantly bow-down.
Same thing with Pete Sheppard, although he is actually enjoyable when he is in the big chair.
Does anybody else notice how much more bearable Meter is when Callahan isn't there?
Notice I didn't say "enjoyable," but still, it's amazing how much better he is when he can act like himself a little bit and not constantly bow-down.
Same thing with Pete Sheppard, although he is actually enjoyable when he is in the big chair.
This is where the flash boys kill themselves. Say what you want about EEI, but they don't hire idiots (Mike Adams withstanding). They do hire professional people with some sort of chops and Meter and Shepperd have to have displayed these chops elsewhere in order to get their jobs.
However, if they want to move up to the big time (calling major professional sports or getting their own show) they'll have to prove to someone that the last x amount of years has been schtick. Shepperd can do that with a reel of his fill-in hosting gigs or when he runs the post-game Patriots shows; but Meter can't do that. He's been passed over for shows and when he does do a game or two, he fails miserably with his "announcer boy" styling of homerism and voice inflection.
I don't know either guys, but if I had to guess I would think that Shepperd is set. This is a job where he can make some good money not doing a lot of traveling and not having a whole lot of responsibility. It really is a good gig. But Meterperrel is younger and seems to have a bit more ambition (Charlotte Knights, NE Revolution, BC Eagles, that professional softball league) but his rump-kissing clown persona kills him. I'm not sure how he could move up the ladder by kissing Gerry Callahan's ass, since Callahan isn't the program director and doesn't seem to aspire to be one.
I would think that tension between Meter and Gerry would be more beneficial to both ratings and his career. It would show that he isn't a yes-man, and people like to hear people argue on the radio. Callahan, Dennis and Meter all agree on pretty much everything and when they don't, 99% it's contrived. In a way, I feel bad for John Meterperrel because he could do something interesting with his career (ala Sean Grandy) because he is motivated, knows a bit about sports (much more than John Dennis) but he's just too stupid to make his own way.
I can guarantee you this, when Dennis and Callahan retire (and I bet that's sooner rather than later) it's not going to be the Meter and Felger (or whomever) show.
However, if they want to move up to the big time (calling major professional sports or getting their own show) they'll have to prove to someone that the last x amount of years has been schtick. Shepperd can do that with a reel of his fill-in hosting gigs or when he runs the post-game Patriots shows; but Meter can't do that. He's been passed over for shows and when he does do a game or two, he fails miserably with his "announcer boy" styling of homerism and voice inflection.
I don't know either guys, but if I had to guess I would think that Shepperd is set. This is a job where he can make some good money not doing a lot of traveling and not having a whole lot of responsibility. It really is a good gig. But Meterperrel is younger and seems to have a bit more ambition (Charlotte Knights, NE Revolution, BC Eagles, that professional softball league) but his rump-kissing clown persona kills him. I'm not sure how he could move up the ladder by kissing Gerry Callahan's ass, since Callahan isn't the program director and doesn't seem to aspire to be one.
I would think that tension between Meter and Gerry would be more beneficial to both ratings and his career. It would show that he isn't a yes-man, and people like to hear people argue on the radio. Callahan, Dennis and Meter all agree on pretty much everything and when they don't, 99% it's contrived. In a way, I feel bad for John Meterperrel because he could do something interesting with his career (ala Sean Grandy) because he is motivated, knows a bit about sports (much more than John Dennis) but he's just too stupid to make his own way.
I can guarantee you this, when Dennis and Callahan retire (and I bet that's sooner rather than later) it's not going to be the Meter and Felger (or whomever) show.
QUOTE (John Marzano Olympic Hero @ Jul 6 2009, 05:21 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2402565
This is where the flash boys kill themselves. Say what you want about EEI, but they don't hire idiots (Mike Adams withstanding). They do hire professional people with some sort of chops and Meter and Shepperd have to have displayed these chops elsewhere in order to get their jobs.
However, if they want to move up to the big time (calling major professional sports or getting their own show) they'll have to prove to someone that the last x amount of years has been schtick. Shepperd can do that with a reel of his fill-in hosting gigs or when he runs the post-game Patriots shows; but Meter can't do that. He's been passed over for shows and when he does do a game or two, he fails miserably with his "announcer boy" styling of homerism and voice inflection.
I don't know either guys, but if I had to guess I would think that Shepperd is set. This is a job where he can make some good money not doing a lot of traveling and not having a whole lot of responsibility. It really is a good gig. But Meterperrel is younger and seems to have a bit more ambition (Charlotte Knights, NE Revolution, BC Eagles, that professional softball league) but his rump-kissing clown persona kills him. I'm not sure how he could move up the ladder by kissing Gerry Callahan's ass, since Callahan isn't the program director and doesn't seem to aspire to be one.
I would think that tension between Meter and Gerry would be more beneficial to both ratings and his career. It would show that he isn't a yes-man, and people like to hear people argue on the radio. Callahan, Dennis and Meter all agree on pretty much everything and when they don't, 99% it's contrived. In a way, I feel bad for John Meterperrel because he could do something interesting with his career (ala Sean Grandy) because he is motivated, knows a bit about sports (much more than John Dennis) but he's just too stupid to make his own way.
I can guarantee you this, when Dennis and Callahan retire (and I bet that's sooner rather than later) it's not going to be the Meter and Felger (or whomever) show.
I think that's pretty dead-on, and yes, I would agree that Pete seems to be content with his current situation.
I mean, Ordway isn't there probably at least 1/4th and these days closer to 1/3rd of the time anyway, and when Glenn is absent, Pete is always sitting in the big chair. Plus, as you mentioned, he does host the Patriots Post-Game show and in all "Big Show" advertisements is really portrayed as being another co-host, rather than just a flashboy.
But Meter, on the other hand, is sometimes still relegated to the sports flash even when both Dennis and Callahan are absent, and certainly doesn't host when just one of them isn't there. Plus, as you mentioned, he's never been handed the keys to his own gig, as so many have. Even Jon Wallach had a weekend show for a few years.
And it's too bad too, because it's apparent that Meter that really wants to move up the ladder (hell, he even fills-in on Comcast's "Sports Tonight" on occasion), but is simply viewed as a lackey to Callahan and may never break that mold.
I would say though, that when Dennis hangs it up (which I think will be much sooner than when Callahan does), it seems like Felger will be the one to take his spot. Whereas as you alluded to, when Ordway hangs it up, Pete seems like the logical replacement.
This is where the flash boys kill themselves. Say what you want about EEI, but they don't hire idiots (Mike Adams withstanding). They do hire professional people with some sort of chops and Meter and Shepperd have to have displayed these chops elsewhere in order to get their jobs.
However, if they want to move up to the big time (calling major professional sports or getting their own show) they'll have to prove to someone that the last x amount of years has been schtick. Shepperd can do that with a reel of his fill-in hosting gigs or when he runs the post-game Patriots shows; but Meter can't do that. He's been passed over for shows and when he does do a game or two, he fails miserably with his "announcer boy" styling of homerism and voice inflection.
I don't know either guys, but if I had to guess I would think that Shepperd is set. This is a job where he can make some good money not doing a lot of traveling and not having a whole lot of responsibility. It really is a good gig. But Meterperrel is younger and seems to have a bit more ambition (Charlotte Knights, NE Revolution, BC Eagles, that professional softball league) but his rump-kissing clown persona kills him. I'm not sure how he could move up the ladder by kissing Gerry Callahan's ass, since Callahan isn't the program director and doesn't seem to aspire to be one.
I would think that tension between Meter and Gerry would be more beneficial to both ratings and his career. It would show that he isn't a yes-man, and people like to hear people argue on the radio. Callahan, Dennis and Meter all agree on pretty much everything and when they don't, 99% it's contrived. In a way, I feel bad for John Meterperrel because he could do something interesting with his career (ala Sean Grandy) because he is motivated, knows a bit about sports (much more than John Dennis) but he's just too stupid to make his own way.
I can guarantee you this, when Dennis and Callahan retire (and I bet that's sooner rather than later) it's not going to be the Meter and Felger (or whomever) show.
I think that's pretty dead-on, and yes, I would agree that Pete seems to be content with his current situation.
I mean, Ordway isn't there probably at least 1/4th and these days closer to 1/3rd of the time anyway, and when Glenn is absent, Pete is always sitting in the big chair. Plus, as you mentioned, he does host the Patriots Post-Game show and in all "Big Show" advertisements is really portrayed as being another co-host, rather than just a flashboy.
But Meter, on the other hand, is sometimes still relegated to the sports flash even when both Dennis and Callahan are absent, and certainly doesn't host when just one of them isn't there. Plus, as you mentioned, he's never been handed the keys to his own gig, as so many have. Even Jon Wallach had a weekend show for a few years.
And it's too bad too, because it's apparent that Meter that really wants to move up the ladder (hell, he even fills-in on Comcast's "Sports Tonight" on occasion), but is simply viewed as a lackey to Callahan and may never break that mold.
I would say though, that when Dennis hangs it up (which I think will be much sooner than when Callahan does), it seems like Felger will be the one to take his spot. Whereas as you alluded to, when Ordway hangs it up, Pete seems like the logical replacement.
Was anyone else listening to the Stephen A. Smith interview this morning on "Dennis & Callahan" (The hosts were on vacation, I think Greg Dickerson actually conducted the interview).
It was completely incendiary, imho...he trashed Boston, claiming that on multiple occasions he has been accosted by racist white mobs in the streets after Celtics games. I was getting really pissed listening to him.
It was completely incendiary, imho...he trashed Boston, claiming that on multiple occasions he has been accosted by racist white mobs in the streets after Celtics games. I was getting really pissed listening to him.
QUOTE (Captaincoop @ Jul 7 2009, 09:56 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2404036
Was anyone else listening to the Stephen A. Smith interview this morning on "Dennis & Callahan" (The hosts were on vacation, I think Greg Dickerson actually conducted the interview).
It was completely incendiary, imho...he trashed Boston, claiming that on multiple occasions he has been accosted by racist white mobs in the streets after Celtics games. I was getting really pissed listening to him.
Meh. It's what SAS does. If people don't like him or give him any kind of crap it's because they're racist. It can't possibly be because he's a tremendous horse's ass. I don't suppose Dickerson called him on it or asked him for specifics?
Was anyone else listening to the Stephen A. Smith interview this morning on "Dennis & Callahan" (The hosts were on vacation, I think Greg Dickerson actually conducted the interview).
It was completely incendiary, imho...he trashed Boston, claiming that on multiple occasions he has been accosted by racist white mobs in the streets after Celtics games. I was getting really pissed listening to him.
Meh. It's what SAS does. If people don't like him or give him any kind of crap it's because they're racist. It can't possibly be because he's a tremendous horse's ass. I don't suppose Dickerson called him on it or asked him for specifics?
QUOTE (Captaincoop @ Jul 7 2009, 02:56 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2404036
Was anyone else listening to the Stephen A. Smith interview this morning on "Dennis & Callahan" (The hosts were on vacation, I think Greg Dickerson actually conducted the interview).
It was completely incendiary, imho...he trashed Boston, claiming that on multiple occasions he has been accosted by racist white mobs in the streets after Celtics games. I was getting really pissed listening to him.
It's too bad he didn't say that when D&C were on. Not because he's right but because he would have made Callahan's head explode.
Was anyone else listening to the Stephen A. Smith interview this morning on "Dennis & Callahan" (The hosts were on vacation, I think Greg Dickerson actually conducted the interview).
It was completely incendiary, imho...he trashed Boston, claiming that on multiple occasions he has been accosted by racist white mobs in the streets after Celtics games. I was getting really pissed listening to him.
It's too bad he didn't say that when D&C were on. Not because he's right but because he would have made Callahan's head explode.
QUOTE (mrsbeasley @ Jul 7 2009, 10:23 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2404079
Meh. It's what SAS does. If people don't like him or give him any kind of crap it's because they're racist. It can't possibly be because he's a tremendous horse's ass. I don't suppose Dickerson called him on it or asked him for specifics?
I'm not a big fan of SAS, but Felger & Dickerson led him down that path, they specifically wanted details of any incidents he had personally experienced, or had been told of by any NBA players. SAS was more then willing to talk about it, but I took the interview more as Felger trying to get SAS to trash Boston more then I thought SAS was actually trashing Boston.
Meh. It's what SAS does. If people don't like him or give him any kind of crap it's because they're racist. It can't possibly be because he's a tremendous horse's ass. I don't suppose Dickerson called him on it or asked him for specifics?
I'm not a big fan of SAS, but Felger & Dickerson led him down that path, they specifically wanted details of any incidents he had personally experienced, or had been told of by any NBA players. SAS was more then willing to talk about it, but I took the interview more as Felger trying to get SAS to trash Boston more then I thought SAS was actually trashing Boston.
They would have been idiots to not ask him to follow up once he said he had been involved in incidents in Boston. His description of what happened to him in Boston was completely devoid of details and sounded made-up to me.
QUOTE (Captaincoop @ Jul 7 2009, 11:16 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2404160
They would have been idiots to not ask him to follow up once he said he had been involved in incidents in Boston. His description of what happened to him in Boston was completely devoid of details and sounded made-up to me.
He could have made the whole incident up, we don't know that. What I do know is that the second question that Felger asked SAS (after "what impact will Wallace have on the Celtics") was paraphrasing; does Boston's reputation of racial issues towards African American athletes factor into the decision or whether or not they sign with the Celtics. All he did was answer the question, and the follow ups. To me, if anyone was trying to stir up any trahing of Boston it was Felger.
They would have been idiots to not ask him to follow up once he said he had been involved in incidents in Boston. His description of what happened to him in Boston was completely devoid of details and sounded made-up to me.
He could have made the whole incident up, we don't know that. What I do know is that the second question that Felger asked SAS (after "what impact will Wallace have on the Celtics") was paraphrasing; does Boston's reputation of racial issues towards African American athletes factor into the decision or whether or not they sign with the Celtics. All he did was answer the question, and the follow ups. To me, if anyone was trying to stir up any trahing of Boston it was Felger.
QUOTE (Salem's Lot @ Jul 7 2009, 11:26 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2404168
He could have made the whole incident up, we don't know that. What I do know is that the second question that Felger asked SAS (after "what impact will Wallace have on the Celtics") was paraphrasing; does Boston's reputation of racial issues towards African American athletes factor into the decision or whether or not they sign with the Celtics. All he did was answer the question, and the follow ups. To me, if anyone was trying to stir up any trahing of Boston it was Felger.
To be fair, I missed that. From where I jumped in, it sounded like Stephen A. brought up the Boston racial issues. Either way, I personally don't believe his story for a second. What street is deserted after a Celtics game anyway?
He could have made the whole incident up, we don't know that. What I do know is that the second question that Felger asked SAS (after "what impact will Wallace have on the Celtics") was paraphrasing; does Boston's reputation of racial issues towards African American athletes factor into the decision or whether or not they sign with the Celtics. All he did was answer the question, and the follow ups. To me, if anyone was trying to stir up any trahing of Boston it was Felger.
To be fair, I missed that. From where I jumped in, it sounded like Stephen A. brought up the Boston racial issues. Either way, I personally don't believe his story for a second. What street is deserted after a Celtics game anyway?
Felger and Dickerson did a really good job rehashing the Michael Jackson thing today (which surprised me because of sick of hearing about Jacko). And I think that the reason why they did such a good job is because each person was legitimately coming from a different place. Felger has no time for Jackson, none at all. Dickerson took a more moderate approach, but still differed from Felger's POV.
If this was the normal hosts it would have been:
Callahan: Did you see yesterday's love-in for Michael Jackson? I haven't seen that much Hollywood BS since Obama's inauguration!
Dennis: Right!
Callahan: All of these people are pigs. Pigs and fools.
Dennis: Right!
Callahan: I know for a fact that Michael Jackson raped everyone that he ever met, routinely crapped in public water supplies and couldn't carry a tune to save his life.
Dennis: Right!
Callahan: Only the lefty, wing-nut media won't tell you that. It's the same story for Obama, the Kennedys, blah, blah, blah ...
Dennis: Right!
If this was the normal hosts it would have been:
Callahan: Did you see yesterday's love-in for Michael Jackson? I haven't seen that much Hollywood BS since Obama's inauguration!
Dennis: Right!
Callahan: All of these people are pigs. Pigs and fools.
Dennis: Right!
Callahan: I know for a fact that Michael Jackson raped everyone that he ever met, routinely crapped in public water supplies and couldn't carry a tune to save his life.
Dennis: Right!
Callahan: Only the lefty, wing-nut media won't tell you that. It's the same story for Obama, the Kennedys, blah, blah, blah ...
Dennis: Right!
QUOTE (John Marzano Olympic Hero @ Jul 8 2009, 11:32 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2406708
Felger and Dickerson did a really good job rehashing the Michael Jackson thing today (which surprised me because of sick of hearing about Jacko). And I think that the reason why they did such a good job is because each person was legitimately coming from a different place. Felger has no time for Jackson, none at all. Dickerson took a more moderate approach, but still differed from Felger's POV.
If this was the normal hosts it would have been:
Callahan: Did you see yesterday's love-in for Michael Jackson? I haven't seen that much Hollywood BS since Obama's inauguration!
Dennis: Right!
Callahan: All of these people are pigs. Pigs and fools.
Dennis: Right!
Callahan: I know for a fact that Michael Jackson raped everyone that he ever met, routinely crapped in public water supplies and couldn't carry a tune to save his life.
Dennis: Right!
Callahan: Only the lefty, wing-nut media won't tell you that. It's the same story for Obama, the Kennedys, blah, blah, blah ...
Dennis: Right!
You forgot
Callahan: Michael Jackson was one of the 29 Boston firefighters who retired early for a higher pension
Dennis: Right!
Felger and Dickerson did a really good job rehashing the Michael Jackson thing today (which surprised me because of sick of hearing about Jacko). And I think that the reason why they did such a good job is because each person was legitimately coming from a different place. Felger has no time for Jackson, none at all. Dickerson took a more moderate approach, but still differed from Felger's POV.
If this was the normal hosts it would have been:
Callahan: Did you see yesterday's love-in for Michael Jackson? I haven't seen that much Hollywood BS since Obama's inauguration!
Dennis: Right!
Callahan: All of these people are pigs. Pigs and fools.
Dennis: Right!
Callahan: I know for a fact that Michael Jackson raped everyone that he ever met, routinely crapped in public water supplies and couldn't carry a tune to save his life.
Dennis: Right!
Callahan: Only the lefty, wing-nut media won't tell you that. It's the same story for Obama, the Kennedys, blah, blah, blah ...
Dennis: Right!
You forgot
Callahan: Michael Jackson was one of the 29 Boston firefighters who retired early for a higher pension
Dennis: Right!
QUOTE (MCQ @ Jul 9 2009, 12:41 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2408936
You forgot
Callahan: Michael Jackson was one of the 29 Boston firefighters who retired early for a higher pension
Dennis: Right!
You also forgot
Callahan: Iggy you are a liberal moron and are brain dead!
Dennis: right!
You forgot
Callahan: Michael Jackson was one of the 29 Boston firefighters who retired early for a higher pension
Dennis: Right!
You also forgot
Callahan: Iggy you are a liberal moron and are brain dead!
Dennis: right!
Wow, you know Callahan is going off the deep end when even Meterperal isn't agreeing with him.
I could handle Callahan's stance on the Gates issue if he even remotely tempered his comments and acknowledged that it is possible that the cops were in the wrong. According to him that isn't possible and Gates was just looking for an excuse to scream racism.
I could handle Callahan's stance on the Gates issue if he even remotely tempered his comments and acknowledged that it is possible that the cops were in the wrong. According to him that isn't possible and Gates was just looking for an excuse to scream racism.
QUOTE (HomeBrew1901 @ Jul 21 2009, 08:49 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2432288
Wow, you know Callahan is going off the deep end when even Meterperal isn't agreeing with him.
I could handle Callahan's stance on the Gates issue if he even remotely tempered his comments and acknowledged that it is possible that the cops were in the wrong. According to him that isn't possible and Gates was just looking for an excuse to scream racism.
Callahan is a racist
Wow, you know Callahan is going off the deep end when even Meterperal isn't agreeing with him.
I could handle Callahan's stance on the Gates issue if he even remotely tempered his comments and acknowledged that it is possible that the cops were in the wrong. According to him that isn't possible and Gates was just looking for an excuse to scream racism.
Callahan is a racist
QUOTE (John Marzano Olympic Hero @ Jul 21 2009, 12:06 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2432562
I don't think that I'm more happy that I didn't even flip to EEI this morning.
You didn't miss anything, I kept switching it off because it was getting so ridiculous. Callahan would not even believe that it was possible for the poor white cop to overreact. It HAD to be the Black Harvard professor.
It was nice switching to T&R on BCN until they attempted to talk about the Sox, luckily that was shortlived and they brought in a co-ed hooker with a very nice voice.
I don't think that I'm more happy that I didn't even flip to EEI this morning.
You didn't miss anything, I kept switching it off because it was getting so ridiculous. Callahan would not even believe that it was possible for the poor white cop to overreact. It HAD to be the Black Harvard professor.
It was nice switching to T&R on BCN until they attempted to talk about the Sox, luckily that was shortlived and they brought in a co-ed hooker with a very nice voice.
QUOTE (John Marzano Olympic Hero @ Jul 21 2009, 12:06 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2432562
I don't think that I'm more happy that I didn't even flip to EEI this morning.
I say that every morning when reading this thread. I'm surprised more people don't take that tact.
I don't think that I'm more happy that I didn't even flip to EEI this morning.
I say that every morning when reading this thread. I'm surprised more people don't take that tact.
QUOTE (HomeBrew1901 @ Jul 21 2009, 12:16 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2432581
Callahan would not even believe that it was possible for the poor white cop to overreact. It HAD to be the Black Harvard professor.
You are wrong. I have been a cop for 22 years, almost 23, and I have never, ever, put someone in handcuffs because of the colour of their skin. In my district there are not many white folk. Not at all. For the first time in my adult, reading, listening life I agreed with Gerry Callahan. Now, it may have been serendipity on his part, that he got it right, notwithstanding how much I can not stand that homophobic bigot. But he got it right. But, enough of that, Mr. Brewski.
More importantly, I was listening to the first two hours of the show and I couldn't believe what I was hearing. They talked sports. Almost exclusively, except when they did that headlines crap. I was pleased. A lot. When that jerk talks sports, I like him. When he writes about sports, I like him. He's not a bad writer. I had to work my detail so I couldn't listen to the show much beyond what I heard. What I heard, however short it was in time, I liked.
Man, I can't wait for Felger's gig.
Callahan would not even believe that it was possible for the poor white cop to overreact. It HAD to be the Black Harvard professor.
You are wrong. I have been a cop for 22 years, almost 23, and I have never, ever, put someone in handcuffs because of the colour of their skin. In my district there are not many white folk. Not at all. For the first time in my adult, reading, listening life I agreed with Gerry Callahan. Now, it may have been serendipity on his part, that he got it right, notwithstanding how much I can not stand that homophobic bigot. But he got it right. But, enough of that, Mr. Brewski.
More importantly, I was listening to the first two hours of the show and I couldn't believe what I was hearing. They talked sports. Almost exclusively, except when they did that headlines crap. I was pleased. A lot. When that jerk talks sports, I like him. When he writes about sports, I like him. He's not a bad writer. I had to work my detail so I couldn't listen to the show much beyond what I heard. What I heard, however short it was in time, I liked.
Man, I can't wait for Felger's gig.
QUOTE (Sparky Lyle @ Jul 21 2009, 07:04 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2433189
Man, I can't wait for Felger's gig.
I'm confused. I thought you hated Felger and loved EEI. (Admittedly, that sounded strange to me.)
Man, I can't wait for Felger's gig.
I'm confused. I thought you hated Felger and loved EEI. (Admittedly, that sounded strange to me.)
QUOTE (Fratboy @ Jul 21 2009, 07:26 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2433210
I'm confused. I thought you hated Felger and loved EEI. (Admittedly, that sounded strange to me.)
Oh no. I'm a total Felger rump swab, so to speak. Even though he went to BU.
I'm confused. I thought you hated Felger and loved EEI. (Admittedly, that sounded strange to me.)
Oh no. I'm a total Felger rump swab, so to speak. Even though he went to BU.
QUOTE (Sparky Lyle @ Jul 21 2009, 07:04 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2433189
You are wrong. I have been a cop for 22 years, almost 23, and I have never, ever, put someone in handcuffs because of the colour of their skin. In my district there are not many white folk. Not at all. For the first time in my adult, reading, listening life I agreed with Gerry Callahan. Now, it may have been serendipity on his part, that he got it right, notwithstanding how much I can not stand that homophobic bigot. But he got it right. But, enough of that, Mr. Brewski.
I'm confused by this. Are you saying that the officer in question couldn't possibly have used race as a factor because you never have?
You are wrong. I have been a cop for 22 years, almost 23, and I have never, ever, put someone in handcuffs because of the colour of their skin. In my district there are not many white folk. Not at all. For the first time in my adult, reading, listening life I agreed with Gerry Callahan. Now, it may have been serendipity on his part, that he got it right, notwithstanding how much I can not stand that homophobic bigot. But he got it right. But, enough of that, Mr. Brewski.
I'm confused by this. Are you saying that the officer in question couldn't possibly have used race as a factor because you never have?
QUOTE (Hendu for Kutch @ Jul 21 2009, 10:09 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2434240
I'm confused by this. Are you saying that the officer in question couldn't possibly have used race as a factor because you never have?
No. Are you presuming he did? I'm confused by your tone.
Ah, fuck it. This isn't V&N. I got drink'in to do. I'm on a night off from the routine of violating civil rights and this Sox game sucks.
Josh Beckett's the only one with any balls on that team right now.
I'm confused by this. Are you saying that the officer in question couldn't possibly have used race as a factor because you never have?
No. Are you presuming he did? I'm confused by your tone.
Ah, fuck it. This isn't V&N. I got drink'in to do. I'm on a night off from the routine of violating civil rights and this Sox game sucks.
Josh Beckett's the only one with any balls on that team right now.
QUOTE (Sparky Lyle @ Jul 21 2009, 10:17 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2434306
No. Are you presuming he did? I'm confused by your tone.
Ah, fuck it. This isn't V&N. I got drink'in to do. I'm on a night off from the routine of violating civil rights and this Sox game sucks.
Josh Beckett's the only one with any balls on that team right now.
Tone wasn't meant to be disrespectful, I just wasn't understanding. HomeBrew was just commenting that Callahan wouldn't even consider that it COULD be an issue with the cop. I don't think he was claiming all cops were racists or anything like that. I just didn't see where your comment that you never did it really made sense there, because regardless of whether you have or not, that has no bearing on whether this other cop COULD have. That's all.
I've known some great cops who were helpful and really cared about other people (I was involved in the local PAL when I was a kid) and I've met some cops who were just ridiculous dickheads for no reason other than they could be. Basically cops are like everyone else, some are good people, some aren't. No disrespect to you or your profession. Enjoy your drinking!
No. Are you presuming he did? I'm confused by your tone.
Ah, fuck it. This isn't V&N. I got drink'in to do. I'm on a night off from the routine of violating civil rights and this Sox game sucks.
Josh Beckett's the only one with any balls on that team right now.
Tone wasn't meant to be disrespectful, I just wasn't understanding. HomeBrew was just commenting that Callahan wouldn't even consider that it COULD be an issue with the cop. I don't think he was claiming all cops were racists or anything like that. I just didn't see where your comment that you never did it really made sense there, because regardless of whether you have or not, that has no bearing on whether this other cop COULD have. That's all.
I've known some great cops who were helpful and really cared about other people (I was involved in the local PAL when I was a kid) and I've met some cops who were just ridiculous dickheads for no reason other than they could be. Basically cops are like everyone else, some are good people, some aren't. No disrespect to you or your profession. Enjoy your drinking!
This morning they were at least 8 minutes late going to commercial (I shut the car off before they even broke). Was it trade discussion? Triumphant callers excited Lugo is gone?
Nope. The Cop vs. the Professor.
Maybe I'm in the minority- I don't have an opinion one way or another. I don't know what happened- I wasn't there and I frankly don't give enough of a shit to read about it.
That said, the venom spitting from my speakers would have put me off the road had it landed in my eye. The absolute hatred Callahan had was scary. Few subjects should be deserving of such anger, and they usually start with somebody assaulting a family member.
It's bad enough when these guys don't talk sports, even if I agree with their general gist (which is typically pretty rare). Callahan's rant amounting to "there is no racism in America- it's just the black people calling for it" has to rank pretty highly on an irony scale somewhere.
Nope. The Cop vs. the Professor.
Maybe I'm in the minority- I don't have an opinion one way or another. I don't know what happened- I wasn't there and I frankly don't give enough of a shit to read about it.
That said, the venom spitting from my speakers would have put me off the road had it landed in my eye. The absolute hatred Callahan had was scary. Few subjects should be deserving of such anger, and they usually start with somebody assaulting a family member.
It's bad enough when these guys don't talk sports, even if I agree with their general gist (which is typically pretty rare). Callahan's rant amounting to "there is no racism in America- it's just the black people calling for it" has to rank pretty highly on an irony scale somewhere.
I've been listening to Toucher and Rich, this subject is just full of too many grey areas to work on talk radio. Especially when the person doing the talking is Gerry Callahan.
It really is a tough thing to talk about and Callahan and his ilk was to distill it into a simple matter of the cop isn't a racist, the professor is a pussy. And it's just not that easy.
It really is a tough thing to talk about and Callahan and his ilk was to distill it into a simple matter of the cop isn't a racist, the professor is a pussy. And it's just not that easy.
QUOTE (John Marzano Olympic Hero @ Jul 23 2009, 08:37 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2437875
I've been listening to Toucher and Rich, this subject is just full of too many grey areas to work on talk radio. Especially when the person doing the talking is Gerry Callahan.
It really is a tough thing to talk about and Callahan and his ilk was to distill it into a simple matter of the cop isn't a racist, the professor is a pussy. And it's just not that easy.
I listened to some of their interview with Sargeant Crowley, the guy that arrested Gates. It was pretty good and he was extremely level headed considering the circumstances and the media circus that is swirling right now.
I really think it was unfair to the guy for Obama to say during a Prime time address "I don't know the facts" and to then go on and say that what the Cambridge Police dept. did was stupid.
I've been listening to Toucher and Rich, this subject is just full of too many grey areas to work on talk radio. Especially when the person doing the talking is Gerry Callahan.
It really is a tough thing to talk about and Callahan and his ilk was to distill it into a simple matter of the cop isn't a racist, the professor is a pussy. And it's just not that easy.
I listened to some of their interview with Sargeant Crowley, the guy that arrested Gates. It was pretty good and he was extremely level headed considering the circumstances and the media circus that is swirling right now.
I really think it was unfair to the guy for Obama to say during a Prime time address "I don't know the facts" and to then go on and say that what the Cambridge Police dept. did was stupid.
Let me say first that if I had to guess, I would say that Sgt Crowley isn't a racist - I think this is a case of two egos colliding. Cops and college faculty are two types of people who are used to being surrounded by people who do not question them, so neither one really handled the confrontation well.
But, you gotta love how Exhibit #1 Crowley (and D&C) are using in their "Crowley isn't a racist" argument is the fact that he tried to revive Reggie Lewis with CPR (gasp). So, the most popular figure in Boston is lying down unresponsive, and a police officer on the scene actually tried to save him? OK, case closed then.
But, you gotta love how Exhibit #1 Crowley (and D&C) are using in their "Crowley isn't a racist" argument is the fact that he tried to revive Reggie Lewis with CPR (gasp). So, the most popular figure in Boston is lying down unresponsive, and a police officer on the scene actually tried to save him? OK, case closed then.
QUOTE (Razor Shines @ Jul 23 2009, 09:02 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2437979
Some predictable fireworks in the 10:00 AM crossover.
Details, please.
Some predictable fireworks in the 10:00 AM crossover.
Details, please.