Some of the hand-wringing on Twitter about losing the No. 16 pick is comical. Yes, that pick could turn out to be the next Giannis. But more likely it'll be at best a rotation player and could well be something less than that.
Moses had 17 points and 19 boards at halftime, but only 4 and 4 in the second half.
I look at it as Moses Brown is the 16th overall pick. The odds of getting a player worth much at 16 seem to be on par with the odds of Brown developing into a good player. He's signed cheaper than the 16th pick would have been too.
OK, so it's basically a given that $14.5 million is going to be guaranteed then.
Totally forgot about Thompson.
Same here. There was a lot of love for him on this site before it turned to hate. And if Hayward hadn't gone down again last year, I think the Tatum/Brown/kemba/Hayward/Smart Celts would've/could've beaten the Lakers in the finals
Does seem like this is the first step in a pretty sizeable shake up that many of us wanted. Tatum is probably the only person who is 100% sure he's not getting traded. Brown is probably like 98%. Everyone else much lower.
I don't see that on 2 fronts:
Way too early to be discussing rotations. This is the complete non-Jays roster overhaul I called for last winter. It wouldn’t shock me to see like 4 holdovers from last years roster.
My guess is it opens up $0.
Agreed that Brown is not going to do much beyond giving us maybe 10 decent minutes at the 5, but would you grant that it's similar to dropping 20 spots in the draft rather than giving a first straight up? I'd think Brown's value at this point is the 35-40th pick
The 1st round pick would cost more per year however. Maybe that's something that matters for whatever roster building plans they may have. Ultimately, I think they had to attach the pick to Kemba to do the deal but getting back someone with potential like Brown that can help fill the back of the roster very cheaply is pretty good.
The problem with keeping him is that his rookie deal runs out soon, and I'm not sure he's a guy you want to commit real years and money to.
Kemba
The difference is he only has $14 million of guaranteed money in that second year while Kemba has a player option in year 2 for nearly $38 million.
So am I. Al was playing well before OKC shut him down this season.
So he can replace Tristan Thompson then (at 1/6 the cost on a non-guaranteed contract).
Even in the first scenario, "just" saving tax money is a major benefit because it's zero-sum, so tax money saved from this deal means more tax money that can be spent on whatever - Fournier (wouldn't be my choice), some other player acquired in a trade, etc.
You won't find a ton of hate for Kemba here. But his salary and production were an actual problem, especially since the injury that he has doesn't just get better.
I mean... it's only zero sum if you have a cheap owner given they made moves this year to reset the tax, that would mean a very cheap owner.
yep, +1. the correct take.
It wasn't. It's a basketball move. I think it opens up space after this year to try to get a 3rd star in here in which they couldn't if Kemba was here.
Does anyone know why he wasn’t drafted? The guy was a five-star recruit, McDonald’s All-American, center out of Malloy and UCLA, etc. I know that he’s not a modern stretch big and likely never will be, but I’m wondering if there’s anything negative there that I hadn’t heard.
