Oh my sweet jumping Jesus please tell me this isn't true. But it'd make so much sense...Mike Felger went to HF Boards to improve his hockey acumen. That tells you just about all you need to know about his intelligence.
Oh my sweet jumping Jesus please tell me this isn't true. But it'd make so much sense...Mike Felger went to HF Boards to improve his hockey acumen. That tells you just about all you need to know about his intelligence.
Need to get him to read (but not contribute to) RMPS, ASAP.
Bingo. Boston, though it's one of the best sports markets in the country, isn't New York. There are times when the sports world here is kind of "slow." Also, national stories don't play well in this area. The conversation has to stay local regardless.Felger's bored. And all of his usual suspects are gone.
The NHL and NBA have already started, the NFL is in its doldrums, the World Series is over and they don't give a crap about the NCAA.
Felger tried to shit on Charra, no one really cares.
Felger tried to shit on Garnett, it really has no legs (he said that he wished Garnett never won a championship, so he can rag on him about that). He knows he has nothing.
Randy Moss is gone, the Patriots are doing exactly what he wants. And they're 6-1. Hard to be negative about that.
So now he's going to the Sox. He and Tony make up stuff, blow things out of proportion for four hours, call it a show and pray that something insane happens tonight, tomorrow or Sunday.
He's had an absolutely terrible week. Massarotti is coasting, just like he does at the Globe. It's amazing how quickly he went from a hungry reporter with interesting and well-thought out takes to a complete hack saying the same thing over and over and over again, facts be damned.
Need to get him to read (but not contribute to) RMPS, ASAP.
Edit: What info did he go to HF for, PSK?
I recall this year around the trade deadline, he referenced HF on the air as his source of info in his mea culpa on the strength of this year's draft class (regarding the Kessel trade). He also referred to them for the next couple of weeks following for info on either of Seguin/Hall.Oh my sweet jumping Jesus please tell me this isn't true. But it'd make so much sense...
Good to know,I brought my IPod today just in case.Now Felger is bitching about the Pats not getting the Raiders 1st rounder in 2010 for Seymour because the high pick is not good value for the Patriots yet all the reports out there say that Oakland only offered a 2nd rounder in 2010 or a 1st rounder in 2011.
Yeah, maybe he should be bitching about how bad the offense sucks since dealing Randy Moss.Now Felger is bitching about the Pats not getting the Raiders 1st rounder in 2010 for Seymour because the high pick is not good value for the Patriots yet all the reports out there say that Oakland only offered a 2nd rounder in 2010 or a 1st rounder in 2011.
<BR><BR><BR>As far back as the trade deadline, he's maintained that regardless of Bay's performance this year (you can't predict injuries, after all!), if you were going to go after Werth, you should have just locked Bay down, since it'd likely cost the same and Bay was a better player. I have a post reaming him from some time around the trade deadline earlier in the thread that expounds upon it.<BR>I know that Tony admitted to not watching many games in the last month, but he is aware that Bay had an absolute shit year for the Mets, right? He was unproductive, often injured and completely over paid. <BR><BR>What's the fascination with Jason Bay?<BR>
Yup; they convinced me to stop listening to TBS and now I just listen to my ipod rather than either show. And I'm supposed to be one of their supporters and core demographic; oh well..."The Phillies, unlike the Red Sox, have developed a nucleus and signed that nucleus to long-term deals." WHAT????? Do the names Dustin Pedroia, Kevin Youkilis, and Jon Lester ring a bell?
They're both just plain out making things up at this point. Look, I thought the Red Sox deserved some criticism with the way they handled 2010 and didn't upgrade the bullpen during the season. But man, listening to these two you would think they were owned by Donald Sterling or something.
It's just ridiculous conversation. "Felger and Mazz" Red Sox conversation is the definition of "troll radio."
It's just ridiculous conversation. "Felger and Mazz" Red Sox conversation is the definition of "troll radio."
Generally, I really enjoy Felger. He's funny, he dedicates time to the Bruins and he's not afraid to take a stand and later admit he's wrong. But lately I'm bailing on the show as soon as they do any Hot Stove/Red Sox stuff.To be fair, they're not ignoring it, they both probably think that's a reasonable contract and that Howard is a superstar.
The same applies to me...I know more about baseball than any other sport, thus I'm probably more likely to call them on their bullshit.Generally, I really enjoy Felger. He's funny, he dedicates time to the Bruins and he's not afraid to take a stand and later admit he's wrong. But lately I'm bailing on the show as soon as they do any Hot Stove/Red Sox stuff.
So I'm trying to figure this out. I go crazy and have to stop listening whenever they talk baseball/Red Sox. Is it because I'm more sensitive with Red Sox talk? Is it because I know more about baseball than other sports and that makes me infuriated with their lack of insight? Or are they like this with all four sports and I just normally don't hear it? I guess what I'm asking is are they normally this out of touch with the facts and I just don't notice, or are they especially off with baseball/Red Sox talk? Is it me or them with the problem?
Edit - Grammar...as usual. I'm a moron.
I think baseball talk is a lot more identifiable when it's bad, especially for this board. Ultimately, almost everything in baseball is measurable to some degree, and you can pull it up in a few clicks. Which also makes it so much more inexcusable when there's lazy sports talk about it. And a lot of that comes from the fact that baseball is mostly a series of individual players whose play doesn't really encroach on other players. A pitcher throws a ball, a batter tries to hit it, and a fielder tries to catch it. How we measure those three basic tenents are pretty much the sole responsibility of the baseball player. So if a player hits a fly ball to right field, and JD Drew doesn't come in quickly enough, we know it was Drew's jump/ability that likely caused it, and Kevin Youkilis played no part in it.Generally, I really enjoy Felger. He's funny, he dedicates time to the Bruins and he's not afraid to take a stand and later admit he's wrong. But lately I'm bailing on the show as soon as they do any Hot Stove/Red Sox stuff.
So I'm trying to figure this out. I go crazy and have to stop listening whenever they talk baseball/Red Sox. Is it because I'm more sensitive with Red Sox talk? Is it because I know more about baseball than other sports and that makes me infuriated with their lack of insight? Or are they like this with all four sports and I just normally don't hear it? I guess what I'm asking is are they normally this out of touch with the facts and I just don't notice, or are they especially off with baseball/Red Sox talk? Is it me or them with the problem?
Edit - Grammar...as usual. I'm a moron.
But Howard is an exciting player to watch!! /mazzTo be fair, they're not ignoring it, they both probably think that's a reasonable contract and that Howard is a superstar.
And so, in the end, maybe it was that simple.
Maybe Mark Teixeira was merely determined to squeeze on a Yankees cap, independent of any greasing.
In the interim, let the record show that Teixeira acknowledged that he all but decided on the Yankees two weeks before Christmas, during a Dec. 12 dinner with his wife, Leigh, at the couple's Dallas-area country club. And let the record show, too, that the Teixeiras' weekly date came precisely six days before the Red Sox' fateful and fruitless visit to Dallas in hopes of closing a deal with the player.
"Two weeks before Christmas, I talked to Leigh about it again, and we kind of decided that, hey, the Yankees are where we want to be. [Yankees general manager Brian Cashman] might want to give Leigh a hug, because when I asked her during the process, 'Where should I go, where should I go?' she'd always say, 'I just want you to be happy.'
"Finally she said, 'I want you to be a Yankee,' and it was a done deal. Once we got the contract figured out, it was a no-brainer for me."
Whether the Sox could have done anything to change that remains questionable, though club officials certainly would not have offered Teixeira the biggest contract in club history (and, at the time, third largest in baseball history) had they been operating with any degree of hopelessness.
How could he write all this in his own story and then ignore history 2 years later? He even says in the article they offered him the biggest deal in team history, yet somehow they didn't go far enough?"At the same time, I'm not going to lie to you guys. Contract was important. I wasn't going to take half as much money to play in New York. But when a team like New York steps up and is very competitive with their contract, it was an easy decision for me.
"I'm sure there could have been [a deal with Boston], but like I said, contract is important. When everyone was kind of around the same contract, there was no rush for me to make a decision, so that's kind of the way I went about that meeting with Boston.
Here's a prediction: By the time this is over, win or lose, the Red Sox effectively will have made Mark Teixeira the largest contract offer in the history of your storied franchise.
Preposterous, you say? Clearly, you have not been paying attention. Since the Red Sox changed ownership, management, and philosophies early in 2002, the new owners and operators of the Red Sox have stopped at virtually nothing to acquire those things they have coveted most. When the best of the rest were bidding $35 million-$40 million to acquire the rights to Daisuke Matsuzaka, the Red Sox bid $51.11 million. When the rest of the world wondered why J.D. Drew opted out of his contract in Los Angeles, the Red Sox dropped $70 million in Drew's lap. And knowing what we know now, nothing might have been more aggressive than the $36 million the Sox paid for Julio Lugo.
The point is this:
When the Sox want something enough, they make sure they get it.
But money? Please. The Yankees have a virtual bottomless pit. Are the Sox really going to do damage to the Yankees in hiking Teixeira's price by $2 million a year? $3 million? $5 million? Last season, depending on the formula, the Yankees spent anywhere from $50 million-$70 million more than the Red Sox on their league roster. After the season, in Jason Giambi, Mike Mussina, Bobby Abreu, Carl Pavano and Andy Pettitte, the Yankees erased more than $70 million from their payroll. They are moving into a new stadium. They quite literally have cash to burn, even in these economic times.
In fact, what the Red Sox truly fear here is that the Yankees can outbid them on Teixeira, explaining why the Sox have failed to confirm any interest in the player at all. With the possible exception of the New York Mets, who just exercised their contract option on first baseman Carlos Delgado, the Yankees are the only team in baseball who could outbid the Red Sox for Teixeira's services. The Yankees could do it in a big way, too, giving Teixeira the kind of money that would put him in the clouds with Alex Rodriguez.
http://www.boston.com/sports/columnists/massarotti/2008/11/expect_sox_to_break_bank_for_t.htmlIf the Yankees were willing to give Damon $3 million a year more than anyone else, do you really think they’re going to pull back on Teixeira?
The Sox, on the other, always have a drop area.
Because, like a clown in a circus, he's playing a role. And he's playing his listeners for fools. If he did this on the internet he'd be labeled a troll and banned from the site. But since he does it on the radio, he's labeled "compelling" and earns a handsome salary.How could he write all this in his own story and then ignore history 2 years later? He even says in the article they offered him the biggest deal in team history, yet somehow they didn't go far enough?
It shouldn't be about that, though. WEEI doesn't bring down the Patriots (obviously) because their games are broadcast on "The Sports Hub."I think TSH wants to convince as many fans as possible that the Red Sox are bad and cheap and boring so we'll stop paying as much attention to them. Wouldn't that be good for TSH and bad for WEEI?
Yes. The Bruins are the new Red Sox in some ways. In a town that has produced 6 titles in the past 10 years, they have no credibility. It is safe to assume that they'll find a way to not win. And much of their fan base will take the bait, which is good for the "energy" of a talk show.So is this what it's going to be until the Bruins make the Eastern Conference Finals? Is Felger going to remind us of last year's choke job after every big win? Oy.
Well Manning started having success once the Pats defensive horses got old or retired or left the team.Felgie just made an interesting point that I'm inclined to agree with --
BB uses the Steelers' strength against them. "We do what we do!" Which means they are predictable because they will not vary from it.
Colts -- polar opposite b/c Manning improvises at the line. Not too proud to change, to take what D gives him.
Colts, therefore, will be a tougher test (even with people like us in uniform b/c of the injury problems).
It's interesting that BB totally befuddled the Colts for a long while ... it's has now been flipped for a long time.
The departure of Roman Phifer has always been underplayed in my opinion.Well Manning started having success once the Pats defensive horses got old or retired or left the team.
That, and the NFL changing its rules to crack down on defensive backs manhandling receivers and forcing them off their routes. That allowed the Colts' timing-based passing to actually work against the Patriot defense like it did against everyone else.Well Manning started having success once the Pats defensive horses got old or retired or left the team.
Good point by Felgs.Felgie just made an interesting point that I'm inclined to agree with --
BB uses the Steelers' strength against them. "We do what we do!" Which means they are predictable because they will not vary from it.
Colts -- polar opposite b/c Manning improvises at the line. Not too proud to change, to take what D gives him.
Colts, therefore, will be a tougher test (even with people like us in uniform b/c of the injury problems).
It's interesting that BB totally befuddled the Colts for a long while ... it's has now been flipped for a long time.
The last four games (the 2007, 2008 and 2009 regular season games and the 2006 playoff game) have also all been at Indy.That, and the NFL changing its rules to crack down on defensive backs manhandling receivers and forcing them off their routes. That allowed the Colts' timing-based passing to actually work against the Patriot defense like it did against everyone else.
One other point: The Pats won fairly convincingly in 2007, I seem to recall. In 2006, 2008, and 2009, the Pats were in position to win all 3 games, and probably should have won at least 1 or 2 of them. Mental mistakes at the end of the game (Matt Light's false start in 2006, the dumb unnecessary roughness penalty in 2008, and the refs screwing up the spot of the ball in that 4th and 2) helped contribute to the team's losses each time. The only exception was the 2006 regular season game in Foxboro, in which the Patriots truly got their helmets handed to them. IMO, too much will be made of the trendlines; really the 2006 games really have no bearing on the upcoming contest, Felger's bleatings to the contrary.The last four games (the 2007, 2008 and 2009 regular season games and the 2006 playoff game) have also all been at Indy.
EDIT: I would also describe the Colts as the ultimate "we'll do what we do, screw you" team in the league. Caldwell is mixing it up more on defense but (except when they have massive injury problems) they run the same no huddle passing offense with the same personnel, a passing heavy attack, and a limited number of formations and they don't sub much on defense either. Now Manning passes to the open guy but they run the same stuff out of the same formation every week on both sides fo the ball.
Just after 4 someone called up and told Felger to let the Moss thing die and to move on. Everyone else has, why can't he. He did admit after today he'd try to let it go. I hope to god it's true. I love the show but I can't take them beating on the same 3 points every day for months. Moss has been gone for weeks, let it die.