Felger and Mazz - Creating False Naratives one day at a time
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It will be totally unlistenable, not so much because they're going to roast Ainge (although wouldn't it just be the Felger way to go contrarian and go with 'In Danny We Trust'), but because they are so hopelessly clueless about the NBA. They literally don't know what they are talking about. Hopefully Lucic gets traded at 1:30 and they can talk about that instead.
I have to admit I'm a sucker for the TRADER DANNY! segments. Especially with the cartoonish pistol shots sound byte. Cracks me up every time.
I stopped listening to them a couple of moths ago due to their general crappyness but when the Hamilton trade happened and even Dale the bruins honk was semi-negative on it I had to hear Felger's take. I was listening to him when news broke about the McQuaid extension and his rant was great radio.
As an added bonus Mazz was off so it was 98% Felger with occasional one liner by Murray and Hook. Normally that would suck but on a day where there is a justified Bruins rant is was gold.
As an added bonus Mazz was off so it was 98% Felger with occasional one liner by Murray and Hook. Normally that would suck but on a day where there is a justified Bruins rant is was gold.
He's had a weekend to prepare and the Bruins have nothing to show for their trades based on my understanding on how poorly they drafted, plus they took a page out of the Red Sox PR Handbook and shit on Hamilton in the Globe on the way out the door as a way to defend the trade...RedOctober3829 said:
If anyone is a fan of what the Bruins did this weekend or are willing to give them a pass and see how things pan out, this is probably a day you want to listen to something else, unless you enjoy getting so pissed at everything Felger says you need to run to SoSH to complain about it.
On a side note, I'm genuinely amazed that some of you even bother to listen on a regular basis based on the comments above. We know what this show is at this point, find something else to turn on when he starts to annoy you.
Neely had weekly appearances on the show during the season. I'd love to see Felger get him on this week to see the two go toe-to-toe.
"What's the plan, Cam? The team is significantly worse today than it was going into the weekend..."
"What's the plan, Cam? The team is significantly worse today than it was going into the weekend..."
[entry='[URL="http://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nhl/report-uppity-dougie-hamilton-not-liked-by-teammates/ar-AAci8RC"]http://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nhl/report-uppity-dougie-hamilton-not-liked-by-teammates/ar-AAci8RC[/URL]']However, an anonymous NHL assistant general manager told Harris that Hamilton had some character issues.The Four Peters said:
“It was surprising,” the front office executive said. “It’s obvious there’s something going on that we don’t know about. From what I’ve heard behind the scenes, his teammates don’t like him. I heard he’s a loner and sort of an uppity kid, and that his teammates don’t like him and it was unanimous.”
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Hopefully that works, wasn't the Globe, you can argue that it didn't come from the Bruins if you'd like but then again it wasn't the Red Sox who told stories about Tito on way out either if you choose to believe them.
HomeBrew1901 said:
Hopefully that works, wasn't the Globe, you can argue that it didn't come from the Bruins if you'd like but then again it wasn't the Red Sox who told stories about Tito on way out either if you choose to believe them.
Also in the Herald as well [blog='[URL="http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/bruins_nhl/boston_bruins/2015/06/harris_don_sweeneys_first_bruins_draft_less_than_impressive"]http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/bruins_nhl/boston_bruins/2015/06/harris_don_sweeneys_first_bruins_draft_less_than_impressive[/URL]'][/blog]
And as usual Felger throws a curveball and doesn't have an issue with Hamilton not being resigned. LOL
It's an anonymous quote from another team official (not the usual "league source" which is way too vague for me). Taking Harris at his word (he's got a good reputiation, so no reason not to), unless they're trying to get other teams to do their dirty work for them (highly unlikely), you can't lay this one at the feet of the Bruins.
And yeah, wasn't the Globe either, as you mentioned.
And yeah, wasn't the Globe either, as you mentioned.
Unreal - -Felger is defending the Bruins! He can't be critical of them, but he shits on the Patriots for everything! The Bruin's moves were a debacle and he can't critique them. Despite the fact that on Friday he said if they didn't turn those picks into real talent, he would be pissed.
The sad part is, I was hoping for a change that Felger's negativity would mirror my own for a change, but nope -- he leads with a big speech about how Bruins writers and fans overrate Hamilton. That might be true, but that's not the problem - -it was a horrific return.
Man, some of you are just looking to be pissed.chonce1 said:
He hasn't even gotten into what they did with the draft picks, he's defending the Bruins for trading Hamilton after offering him a fair contract and getting the picks.
He's also saying Chara isn't as good as he once was and just because Bergeron got the Selke it doesn't mean he's really the best center in the NHL.
Edit " I have big problems with what the Bruins did this weekend, but not upset with trading Hamilton"
"Not necessarily a smear campaign (uppity comment) could possibly be true"
Bruins were right to trade Kessel, Thornton and Seguin due to character issues proven to be true if part of their analysis.
"Lots of problems with this weekend, trading Hamilton isn't one of them"
Bruins were right to trade Kessel, Thornton and Seguin due to character issues proven to be true if part of their analysis.
"Lots of problems with this weekend, trading Hamilton isn't one of them"
chonce1 said:
The formula is to take the position that is opposite of the consensus public opinion no matter what he actually thinks. Have you ever gotten into a heated agreement with anyone? Opinions counter to your own can generate passion and dialogue. It's really that easy.
We can agree to disagree here I think, I'm generally skeptical when my Facebook feed is filled with passionate Bruins fans yelling about the moves the team has made and then something negative comes out about the player. I always assume it came from the team, even when the case here is an unnamed Assistant GM, how would they know unless it was leaked by someone within the organization.The Four Peters said:
Felger already said he "doesn't care if they reached" etc... I am not looking for reasons to be pissed, I would just like Felger to be critical of his buddy Neely, when warranted, given how eager is he is to shit on every thing the Patriots do. Felger made it clear that the theme of this show would be too disagree with the fan base -- maybe he thinks it doesn't make for good radio if the callers and him agree on things ... but it is shameless.
That was the opposite of what I'd expected to hear from Mike but he was making some sense. I still disagree with him that the Hamilton move was really bad.
FUCK YOU YOU NEED TO BE AS PISSED AS I AM TO MAKE SENSE!!!!!RedOctober3829 said:
For fuck's sake, he hasn't even gotten into what he thought about everything else.
The lead in after the break was playing Haggerty talking about the Bruin's going back to the Dark Ages and Sinden days.
chonce1 said:
It is not shameless if you understand his only goal is to advance his career and continue to make deposits to his bank account. It's only sports radio. He has no duty take any particular position. His only duty is to take a position (and hopefully that keeps and generates increased listeners for the station - and therefore him).
Ferm Sheller,
You are right. Now that I think about it, the difference here is not his relationship with Neely, but the reaction from the fan-base. He just has to be contrarian; if the fans loved the trade he would hate them.
In any event, whatever his reasoning, he did say on Friday that he would be pissed if they didn't flip the picks for real talent, so his shamelessness is as transparent as ever. It sucks though, because I, like others on here, were hopeful we could hear him go off on the Bruins right now.
NOTE: The quote function is not working for me now, so sorry I didn't quote you formally.
You are right. Now that I think about it, the difference here is not his relationship with Neely, but the reaction from the fan-base. He just has to be contrarian; if the fans loved the trade he would hate them.
In any event, whatever his reasoning, he did say on Friday that he would be pissed if they didn't flip the picks for real talent, so his shamelessness is as transparent as ever. It sucks though, because I, like others on here, were hopeful we could hear him go off on the Bruins right now.
NOTE: The quote function is not working for me now, so sorry I didn't quote you formally.
I disagree that that's what he's doing here but agree overall.Ferm Sheller said:
Now he's starting to crap on the draft and the use of the picks. Hopefully Chonce is happy now
Felger saying that since Hamilton didn't get any Norris votes and Doughty did he's not worth it. Jimmy also throwing in his as usual dumbass remarks
"Felger made fun of me on the air again today. I should say that there is a 0 percent chance that Felger's ever read anything I wrote."
https://twitter.com/michaelFhurley/status/615617600970731520
https://twitter.com/michaelFhurley/status/615617600970731520
Don't remember the exact date, but I listened a few weeks ago and Felger supported trading Hamilton for draft picks if Hamilton's contract demands were too high or someone signed him to an expensive offer sheet. Felger has not been in the "you gotta sign Hamilton" camp. I do not think he was playing a contrarian role today. Felger wanted Sweeney to trade up. Said Sweeney looks like a rookie making 3 picks in a row in the middle of the 1st Round.
Felger is all supportive of the Bruins for getting the Hamilton market right. As Michael Hurley points out, he's doing the exact opposite of what he did to the Patriots for letting Welker go.
I'm not a hockey guy, so forgive the lack of details on the player, but today there was a priceless exchange.
Felger: Have you looked at the UFA list for the NHL for defensemen?
Mazz: I sort of looked at it
Felger: What do you think about (Blackhawks defenseman, who's a UFA)
Mazz: I don't like him
Felger: why not?
Mazz: I just don't like him. I'm all done with 33 year old defensemen.
Felger: would you sign him for 2 years, 4M AAV?
Mazz: no
Felger: that's insane. He's going to get 5 years 20M. How can you not want him for that?
Mazz: I just don't want him
It was painfully obvious Mazz had no idea what he was talking about and Felger asked him for some details about why he wouldn't want him and he had nothing.
Felger: Have you looked at the UFA list for the NHL for defensemen?
Mazz: I sort of looked at it
Felger: What do you think about (Blackhawks defenseman, who's a UFA)
Mazz: I don't like him
Felger: why not?
Mazz: I just don't like him. I'm all done with 33 year old defensemen.
Felger: would you sign him for 2 years, 4M AAV?
Mazz: no
Felger: that's insane. He's going to get 5 years 20M. How can you not want him for that?
Mazz: I just don't want him
It was painfully obvious Mazz had no idea what he was talking about and Felger asked him for some details about why he wouldn't want him and he had nothing.
Even if it doesn't come from the team, the reason the quote was ran was to support the teams position. Why raise the question in the first place?HomeBrew1901 said:
If a guy is a team mouthpiece hes gonna dig until he gets the smear hes looking for. No comments from 28 other Asst GMs who never heard of such a thing, for instance.
timlinin8th said:
It could just be true, too. Toucher and Rich have talked about how he's come off as kind of a douchebag in their interactions with him, before any of this happened.
I don't know why the team shouldn't get the benefit of the doubt because a different team run by different people has a history of that sort of thing.
I'm enjoying all the "team is better without Hanley" talk from Felger on CSN that is conveniently ignoring that the Red Sox are playing better without Pedroia too. Should we get rid of him too?
Exactly.
Mazz was apoplectic (again) about Hanley yesterday. "I'm not saying he's a cancer in the clubhouse or anything like that.. HE JUST DOESN'T TRY!!!"
Right out of the JD Drew script.
I have no idea why he was screaming his judgement so loudly. Screaming. The message and the screaming were completely nonsensical. It was Peter King weird.
It hurt my ears in more ways than one...
Mazz was apoplectic (again) about Hanley yesterday. "I'm not saying he's a cancer in the clubhouse or anything like that.. HE JUST DOESN'T TRY!!!"
Right out of the JD Drew script.
I have no idea why he was screaming his judgement so loudly. Screaming. The message and the screaming were completely nonsensical. It was Peter King weird.
It hurt my ears in more ways than one...
NickEsasky said:
I'm not being snide, but do you listen to them often? They've been saying for years the Red Sox should do anything they can to trade Pedroia, but he's signed to such a terrible contract no team in baseball would ever take him.
HE DOESN'T HIT FOR POWER ANYMORE. THE RED SOX JUST THREW MONEY AT HIM. THEY SHOULD DO ANYTHING THEY CAN TO TRADE HIM BUT NO ONE IN BASEBALL WOULD TAKE THAT CONTRACT!
No I gave up on them months ago which is why my reference was to what Felger said on Sports Tonight on CSN. I just found it funny that they mention Hanley being out coinciding with them playing better but no mention of Pedroia being out as well.
Felger thinks Brady is going to be bad next year, because he won't be able to deflate balls anymore. Or something.
http://tinyurl.com/pgvzek5
http://tinyurl.com/pgvzek5
Rusty13 said:
Because clearly he was terrible playing with properly inflated balls in the second half of the AFCCG.
I'd give Felger more credit for being clever if he wanted to argue that Brady's numbers will be down about 25%.