Bill Simmons: Good Luck With Your Life.

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fyi: The unpaid part of @BillSimmons suspension (2 weeks) represents largest $$$ fine in @espn history.
 
 
I've got to say -- if I'm Simmons, losing that kind of scratch for doing nothing wrong would make my next contract negotiations very tough.  
 
This is also pretty hilarious -- he's been posting pictures of himself playing golf pretty regularly on his instagram (which is apparently allowed(?)):  http://instagram.com/sptguy33.
 
FWIW, I believe his suspension ends today.
 

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And the amount of money ESPN stands to lose by Billy Boy damaging their relationship with the Shield is 10000000x more expensive.
You know all those crappy Thursday night matchups on CBS this year? ESPN will get stuck with them on Monday starting next season while the decent matchups will move to Thursday. And that's just the tip of the Goodell Revenge Spear-burg.
 

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Was my favorite part about playing at Hockeytown. And by favorite I mean it was mildly better than the fact the lockers didn't lock and the side boards was concrete.
 
 
This hasn't changed much.  Hockeytown is the dive bar of MA ice arenas.
 

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I'm too aware of that. Only reason that's in the past tense is because I moved. I will say though, their showers were always warm, unlike Kasabuski, Everett and a few other places in the NESHL Metro North rotation. Hell they're even better than UMass-Boston's
 

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Grey Lady weighing in on how Simmons (now making $5M/yr – he apparently got a $2M raise while Instagramming on leave) may follow in the footsteps of Howard Stern and (gah) Glenn Beck by hoofing it to satellite radio. One interesting tidbit that follows up on the Deadspin piece on all Simmons' battles with ESPN nicely suggests that his pipeline to the top may be more tenuous than before:

While Skipper remains a strong supporter of Simmons, he has less day-to-day involvement with the company’s editorial operations. It was not Skipper, but an executive vice president at ESPN who reports to him, Marie Donoghue, who called Simmons to inform him of his suspension.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/10/15/sports/bill-simmonss-return-sets-intrigue-in-motion-at-espn.html?_r=1&referrer=

Lots of speculation in there. But basically, all the models for people who have struck out on their own aren't writers – they're radio and TV personalities. Not sure I see Bill TV in Simmons' future.
 

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Van Everyman said:
Grey Lady weighing in on how Simmons (now making $5M/yr – he apparently got a $2M raise while Instagramming on leave) may follow in the footsteps of Howard Stern and (gah) Glenn Beck by hoofing it to satellite radio. One interesting tidbit that follows up on the Deadspin piece on all Simmons' battles with ESPN nicely suggests that his pipeline to the top may be more tenuous than before:



http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/10/15/sports/bill-simmonss-return-sets-intrigue-in-motion-at-espn.html?_r=1&referrer=

Lots of speculation in there. But basically, all the models for people who have struck out on their own aren't writers – they're radio and TV personalities. Not sure I see Bill TV in Simmons' future.
 
And they were radio and TV personalities with absolutely GIGANTIC audiences, which the article does not. Going it alone is not easy, unless you have the reach of a Stern or Beck. Simmons could definitely making a living going it alone. But could he make 5 mill? I'm not sure about that. As well, going it alone is a tremendous amount of work and requires patience and investment. Not to say Simmons couldn't do that, but it would be a significant change from what he is used to.
 

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Stern and Beck were used to being live on the radio for hours at a time, five days a week.
 
That's not the same as a podcast.
 

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I would think the model for Simmons striking out on his own, if it is going to be a spoken word (rather than written) venture, would be Adam Carolla rather than Stern or Beck.  He surely has a podcast audience that would follow him to an independent show.  And I'd have to think creating his own version of Carolla Digital or Earwolf or Nerdist would be easier than trying to re-create Grantland.
 

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$5 million a year, gets to live in L.A. and pursue his own ventures?  Is Simmons going to pull down that kind of coin risk-free if he strikes out on his own?
 

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It could be that, at this stage in his life, he'd gladly take less money if it meant not having to deal with the hassle of working for somebody else.  
 
Or, he'd rather make $2 Million and have fun than make $5 Million and feel like what he's doing is actual work.
 
For all his faults, Simmons never struck me as a guy that has particularly expensive tastes or anything.  After a decade at ESPN, he probably has more money now than he reasonably knows what to do with, so it's all just gravy at this point.
 

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I think Bill's goal is to have a go-it-alone venture that he eventually sells. He saw what Huffington Post sold for. I think he wants to create a media empire that can eventually be monetized through the sale of equity. how that is done, I don't know.
 
But I think its much more internet/film/media
 

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I managed to miss this particular quote. The fuck?
 
https://twitter.com/lenadunham/status/514940025612812288
 

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Red(s)HawksFan said:
I would think the model for Simmons striking out on his own, if it is going to be a spoken word (rather than written) venture, would be Adam Carolla rather than Stern or Beck.  He surely has a podcast audience that would follow him to an independent show.  And I'd have to think creating his own version of Carolla Digital or Earwolf or Nerdist would be easier than trying to re-create Grantland.
Also, Kevin Smith's SModcast Network has a similar feel; lots of friends who do podcasts in a similar niche.  I could see Simmons going that route, but turning it into anywhere near a $5m cash cow would need some big names...and ways to monazite it beyond a Subway ad at the top of the show.
 

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She skipped his work on the WNBA I'm assuming.
 
I'm going to assume that she's never actually read anything he's written, and just knows his work through the Rice bru-haha.
 

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Well maybe they bump uglies on the side.
 
Is there nothing Lena Dunham can't do?
 
And I would be shocked if Simmons became a part of the Nerdist or Smodcast empires. Those don't seem like the typical Bill Simmons sandboxes to play in.
 

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JMOH, I think the discussion is not Simmons joining Smodcast/Nerdist, but rather starting his own similar empire.
 

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JMOH, I think the discussion is not Simmons joining Smodcast/Nerdist, but rather starting his own similar empire.
 
Makes sense. I was reading the last couple of pages very quickly.
 
Though the thought of Simmons trying to wrap his brain around what Chris Hardwick's (or Kevin Smith's) audience is all about is a bit amusing.
 

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Is anyone else a bit surprised that Simmons has not uttered a peep on twitter or with a podcast since his suspension ended yesterday?  
 
He has released two videos per day for the Grantland NBA Preview (Sixers and Jazz yesterday, Bucks and Celtics today), but those certainly seem to have been recorded prior to the suspension (i.e. because they do not discuss the Rondo injury at all in the Celtics preview).  I'm interested to see what his first public tweets/comments are, and when they come out - may be very telling as to his future plans.  Or not.  We will see.  
 

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He doesn't use Twitter anymore except to promote Grantland.  And I imagine he doesn't want to lose another 5% or so of his pay with another suspension.
 

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While watching the preview of the 76ers I was pretty amazed at how blue the whole segment was. I guess I had my hopes up that Simmons was going to Lenny Bruce it up until he was escorted out the building. Sadly, the next two installments were relatively tame.
 

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kenneycb said:
He doesn't use Twitter anymore except to promote Grantland.  And I imagine he doesn't want to lose another 5% or so of his pay with another suspension.
That's really not true....
 
Just a quick look at his twitter feed in the days before the suspension shows tweets about Josh McDaniels, Teddy Bridgewater, and Rachel Nichols and Roger Goodell that are not directly related to anything with Grantland.  I am sure he doesn't want to be suspended again, and I wouldn't expect him to come out and tweet "Walsh and Skipper are jerks and Goodell is STILL A LIAR!1!1!" but I think it's surprising he hasn't surfaced at all yet.  
 

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I'm not aware if he had a pick on last night's Pats-Jet game, but "Friday" was his mail-bag/NFL pick day, and IIRC the column usually was available by early afternoon.
 

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I'm not aware if he had a pick on last night's Pats-Jet game, but "Friday" was his mail-bag/NFL pick day, and IIRC the column usually was available by early afternoon.
Barnwell wrote this weeks picks column for Grantland which is interesting.
 

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I wonder if the suspension is over, but they've told him to just do NBA and stay away from the NFL for another few weeks.
 

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I wonder if the suspension is over, but they've told him to just do NBA and stay away from the NFL for another few weeks.
Barnwell back doing the picks column today so that may be a decent theory.
 

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I want an "all-why ESPN sucks" mailbag featuring quotes from Chris Berman, Skip, Colin and Steven A. that should just about do it....
 

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Is anyone else a bit surprised that Simmons has not uttered a peep on twitter or with a podcast since his suspension ended yesterday?  
 
Yes. To me, it strongly suggests that Simmons hasn't fully ironed things out with ESPN and that all possibilities— from him leaving the nest to him eventually working it out-- are still in play. I hadn't thought before that he was likely to leave, but this doesn't seem like him. If he was prepared to come back, I would have expected him to come right back with a podcast or column, presumably hitting a self-assertive 'I'm back!' note mixed with a faux-deprecatory 'I just served my Michael Jordan gambling suspension' joke. 
 
He could post something tomorrow and render my point moot, but to me this seems very fishy. 
 

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Yes. To me, it strongly suggests that Simmons hasn't fully ironed things out with ESPN and that all possibilities— from him leaving the nest to him eventually working it out-- are still in play. I hadn't thought before that he was likely to leave, but this doesn't seem like him. If he was prepared to come back, I would have expected him to come right back with a podcast or column, presumably hitting a self-assertive 'I'm back!' note mixed with a faux-deprecatory 'I just served my Michael Jordan gambling suspension' joke. 
 
He could post something tomorrow and render my point moot, but to me this seems very fishy. 
 
I expect these pre-season reviews of every NBA team are very time-consuming.  My guess is that his agent told him to focus his efforts on those and avoid Twitter until he's had longer to calm down (which is not like him at all).
 

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Barnwell back doing the picks column today so that may be a decent theory.
 
 
That's my level 1 theory. My level 2 theory is that Simmons is so pissed about what happened that he's refusing to talk about the NFL (which ESPN readers want to read or listen to) and he's serving up NBA only as an FU to ESPN.
 

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Think that might be his response, if he can't cover the NFL as he sees for he won't cover it.

NBA is his real passion, could see all NBA all the time from now on
 

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Think that might be his response, if he can't cover the NFL as he sees for he won't cover it.

NBA is his real passion, could see all NBA all the time from now on
 
I think the more likely scenario is just that even Simmons does legwork during the week on this stuff (or at least says he does?), and fuck ESPN if they expect him to work during his suspension.
 

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Bill deserves bonus points from me for reminding me about the greatest moment in sitcom history during the NBA preview of the Orlando Magic.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZPsfO2I4bo
 
Has there ever been greater acting on a sitcom?
 

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https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/524288549638504451
 
Back with a "Guess the Lines" podcast with Cousin Sal today, which of course is the platform which the suspension emanated from.  Haven't had a chance to listen yet, but should be interesting.  
 

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Don't play a game that involves the number of times Bill references not working or having nothing to do for the past three weeks...you'll quickly be hammered. That said, it was quite entertaining, especially with their 6:30AM PST DET-ATL in London game.
 

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Buried deep but I love Lowe's response 
 
Lowe: And two years ago, they traded Harden to duck it. But with the cap and tax climbing, they would have paid it in likely only a single season. They are concerned about the roster-building restrictions that come with paying the tax, but your point is fair. Also, their TV guys have become increasingly aggressive homers as the team has gotten better and better. They have an “us against the world” tone that almost makes me uncomfortable. The court and jerseys are horrific.
Simmons: And also, they could have, you know, just paid the tax. The good news is, Clay Bennett and Aubrey McClendon will probably clear $40 million in profit this season. When is someone selling #freedurant T-shirts? I want one.
Lowe: [Backs away slowly from laptop.]
 

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Bill deserves bonus points from me for reminding me about the greatest moment in sitcom history during the NBA preview of the Orlando Magic.
 
 
Has there ever been greater acting on a sitcom?
 
That really is a great fucking scene.
 

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Haha I flipped on late night tv last night as I was falling asleep and this episode was on. Made me think of you fuckfaces.
 

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Simmons' NBA coverage with Jalen and then with Lowe is so good. I've always been a Celtics fan but I have never been aware of as much of the entire NBA as I am now and it is all due to the BS report and those Grantland videos. He hits just the right note of taking the game seriously without being too serious. 
 
9:30 of this is amazing Orlando bad news Bill
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjuykvfcWEQ
 

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I am legitimately excited for the Grantland Basketball Hour. Bill, Jalen, plus Lowe, Jeff Van Gundy, and other good commentators, just talking NBA sounds like exactly what I want. 
 

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It's unfortunate Simmons ever even was suspended in the first place. Maybe he should have used better language. I'm not sure. I completely understand why people think what they think about the NFL at a time like this however, but there are almost 1,700 NFL football players and a lot of them really are living life in a positive way. The only real friends I ever had were college roommates at the University of Alabama who play, or played, in the National Football League. I was born with the inability to write (dysgraphia), to do arithmetic (dyscalculia), to see or feel fingers (finger agnosia) and to tell left from right (left-right disorientation) then acquired Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder after almost dying in the violent F-5 Tuscaloosa tornado. On April 27th 2011 New England Patriot middle linebacker Dont'a Hightower grabbed my body off a bathroom floor then tucked me underneath a bathroom sink as the large storm passed us by. Overcoming PTSD can be a bumpy road for anybody. Combine with the day to day disabilities I face because of neurological disorder life felt impossible. Fortunately, my college roommates Dont'a Hightower, Nico Johnson, a linebacker on the Cincinnati Bengals, and recently retired Carolina Panther cornerback De'Quan Menzie all helped me with the things I struggle with because of disability. 
 
3 years prior to the Tuscaloosa tornado, I left home for college with dreams of law school after pouring everything I had into tutoring, physical therapy, occupational therapy and class from inside special education classrooms. The brain disease I live with is called Gerstmann Syndrome and is acquired after bleeding into the brain during a stroke or traumatic head injury in an area of the left parietal lobe called the angular gyrus. Despite my condition, my family thought making the right choices in life and working hard could get me to my goals and beyond every time, but the events and aftermath of the Tuscaloosa tornado changed my life substantially. Therapists insisted I write as an outlet for the PTSD. I love stories and telling a story of my life couldn't have been closer to my heart but writing is a great big challenge when you can't see or feel fingers because of your brain. Most of us with Gerstmann Syndrome don’t have the skills to hold a pencil and write effectively and efficiently. When I was struggling to write a book because of disability, the New York Times best-selling author John Green reached out to me and said “My writing advice begins and ends with reading. Reading is the only apprenticeship we have as writers, the only path to discovering how people over the centuries have managed to make us believe in stories as deeply as we believe in the world around us. But aside from reading (and reading and reading!), I’d urge you just to keep writing, keep trying to find more effective ways to communicate stories to readers in a way they’ll find interesting. At some point you don't have control over what people think about your writing. That's part of the fear, sure, but it's also part of what makes it a wonderful experience. Books don't become real until they have readers, and you aren't handing over something complete. Instead you're presenting readers with one side of a conversation, and in reading the book, they're providing the other voice (or voices) in that conversation.”
 
The readers were my college roommates and in the rush of careers as NFL athletes, Dont’a Hightower, Nico Johnson and DeQuan Menzie never once forgot about me, reading rough draft after rough draft of my writing, letting me know where the writing lacked and why. There’s a line from the movie “Stand By Me,” a line written by Stephen King, which says “I never had any friends like the ones I had when I was 12 years old. Jesus, does anyone?” Here the answer is yes. My roommates couldn’t tell me everything a real book editor could, but they helped out the best they could. I couldn’t have become an author without their collaboration, and with their help I released a book for Rare Disease Day 2014 then established a Facebook group focused on encouraging the disabled to pursue their ambitions, changing the conversation from what the disabled can't do to what the disabled can do. I have lived much of 2014 hotel to hotel off Hotwire.com where I can afford in Nashville by the airport. I have not always had a place to stay, and have often slept in places I never thought I would sleep, but I am living an ultimate dream. Because of the experience, I know without question I can write and share a story that finds its way on Amazon Kindle Cognitive Psychology best-seller lists without editors, publishers, librarians, or book sellers. In the course of my life, doctors, therapists, neurologists, and special education instructors have told me what I can’t do, but friendship has shown me what I can accomplish. All the guys responsible for helping me get where I am today play in the NFL and are just as good a representative of the NFL as anyone else. NFL players don't choose which stories get the biggest headlines. Mine doesn't get talked about but after hearing what I've been hearing from people I'm begging to think it should.
 
Outstanding first post!  Welcome.  Thanks for sharing this, best of luck and makes me like Hightower even more (as a Pats fan).
 

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Jeff Frye said:
Due to Simmons' suspension, Bill and Jalen only did 10 of the 30 NBA previews. The one today for the Pacers is the last one.
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