That is but one of many details that show amazing stupidity. Another: there's 40 miles between Boston and North Attleborough, but he decided to kill the guy 2 minutes from his house.Grin&MartyBarret said:
Aaron Hernandez charged with 1st degree murder; released by Patriots
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Considering what a shitty job they normally do cleaning rentals, it's a miracle they found the casing.
MainerInExile said:
He was linked to the guy, though, so the distance from the house is the least conspicuous aspect of this whole thing. There was a shell casing in the rental guy.
He retuned the rental car with a shell casing under the seat?
And my wife gets mad at me if I return the rental car with empty coffee cups in it.
What a complete utter fucking moron.
How does she know how the Enterprise/Avis/Hertz guys take their coffee?
And my wife gets mad at me if I return the rental car with empty coffee cups in it.
What a complete utter fucking moron.
How does she know how the Enterprise/Avis/Hertz guys take their coffee?
Doesn't the link between the two make the murder location more stupid? The guy lived in Dorchester, wouldn't that immediately make investigators wonder what he was doing in north attleboro and then immediately create suspicion to go along with the rental car in AH's name?
BroodsSexton said:
"Dead to rights" is correct. They're not interring him or ordaining him or something.
Van Everyman said:
I don't know. Occam's Razor says he's fucking stupid.
Lots of people are stupid. I don't do much criminal work but I do lots of administrative work dealing with professional and trade licenses; you'd be shocked at how dumb some people are.
Example: I have one client who is a NYC licensed master plumber, which is a printing press for money; we are all in the wrong business. He has no employees. Last year he filed EIGHT HUNDRED permits with the buildings department. (In case you don't see the game here, he's covering for unlicensed guys; some fuckstick just off the boat from China or wherever does the work for a fraction of what a licensee would charge; the licensee takes some money under the table, puts in the application under his license, and swears that he did the work). It is physically impossible for one guy without employees to do eight hundred plumbing jobs throughout the five boroughs in one year. His license is toast, and he's probably going to prison (real time, not slap on the wrist stuff) for filing false instruments with the city. He's asking if he can get off with a year's probation, because "what could they know? they don't know nothing."
It's not complicated: PEOPLE ARE STUPID.
Some good news...Teixeira to have season-ending surgery
http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/9426057/mark-teixeira-new-york-yankees-season-ending-wrist-surgery
http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/9426057/mark-teixeira-new-york-yankees-season-ending-wrist-surgery
Dude, he tried to break his phone like that would magically erase all the info the police could get from and about his phone calls and texts. He deleted a mere 6-8 hours of footage from his own security cameras as opposed to, I dunno, deleting absolutely everything and just going "the cameras were for show, I never had them recording"?Van Everyman said:
Stupid is as stupid does and Sweet Leaf here is fucking stuuuuuuuuupid
So, it seems the only thing the prosecution doesn't have is the murder weapon and one additional gun carried by one of his confederates. Is this correct? Audio on the arraignment was spotty at best...
Even without those weapons, he's done.
Even without those weapons, he's done.
Some good news...Teixeira to have season-ending surgery
http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/9426057/mark-teixeira-new-york-yankees-season-ending-wrist-surgery
Is that because he took part in a recent homicide in North Attleboro?
http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/9426057/mark-teixeira-new-york-yankees-season-ending-wrist-surgery
Is that because he took part in a recent homicide in North Attleboro?
Van Everyman said:
Yes, it is stupidity.
The reason it's not adding up for you is that you are not the kind of person who would commit a cold-blooded murder, which means that you have a logical perspective on the situation and can't understand the panic caused by actually committing the murder. And in that panic, people who do commit murder do mind-blowingly stupid things, like leave a trail of evidence or fail to realize (until it's too late) that killing someone and dumping the body in a rental car that is in your name within a couple of miles of your house is not really the way to ensure that attention is not drawn to you.
The nonsense about breaking the cell phone and disabling the security system (but failing to realize that you didn't get everything on the system and your text messages live forever in a server) are more evidence of panic after the fact, but compared to how poorly thought out the actual crime appears to be they are just the icing on the cake of stupidity.
Ok, I'll be the first one to say it. He was framed.
There's no way someone could fail to murder someone so badly. It has to be a frame job.
IDK who did the framing (Berry?), but I'm sure that's what Belichick is figuring out right now.
Trust me guys. Bill will have to whole thing figured out soon enough, and we'll all look back at this and laugh.
There's no way someone could fail to murder someone so badly. It has to be a frame job.
IDK who did the framing (Berry?), but I'm sure that's what Belichick is figuring out right now.
Trust me guys. Bill will have to whole thing figured out soon enough, and we'll all look back at this and laugh.
Some people are egotistical, self centered and greedy. Most of the time these people get caught. Unfortunately they create collateral damage to families and loved ones as in this case.OilCanShotTupac said:
smastroyin said:
Yeah, this to me is the cherry on the stupid sunday. If you're going to kill a guy who police will be able to connect you to within a matter of hours, don't leave his corpse uncovered within two minutes of your home. Especially if the victim himself lives far away.
Though in my limited experience with these sort of things, Hernandez is about middle of the curve stupid as far as murderers go. Not an overly bright lot, on average.
phragle said:
I've been hoping this whole thing was just Gronk trying to play a joke. I keep expecting him to pop out from somewhere with Odin and go "YOU GOT GRONKED!"
There's only one defense:Rudy Pemberton said:
Look ladies and gentlemen of the jury, there is no motive in this case. The prosecution wants you to believe that the defendant killed him because he said something semi-private to some people at a nightclub that didn't like him? Think about that for a minute, dear jurors. Does that make any sense to you? Dou have any doubt to the possibility of a motive such as that?
This is the hail mary IMHO, not concussion history.
I was thinking they'll simply try to create doubt about who was the trigger man and try to get it down from murder 1. There were three people at the scene, AH will say it was one of the other two.Dan to Theo to Ben said:
Don't know if thi s was posted, but according to WCVB a second arrest was made likely related to this case.
MainerInExile said:
I'm not a lawyer but I'm pretty sure it's been said by several lawyers here that accessory before the fact to murder is still quite a serious offense. He'd be going away for a very very long time if he plead to that. I'd think he'd have better luck fighting the murder 1.
j44thor said:
A lot of people are good at their professions, but not good at murder.
As things go along, maybe we'll learn more about the motive and why AH was in such a hurry to kill Odin.
Odin must have been telling people something that Hernandez REALLY didn't want people to know. Something that seriously threatened his livelihood in some form.
Either that he should have just put Odin in his burn book and convinced him to eat weight gaining bars before prom.
Either that he should have just put Odin in his burn book and convinced him to eat weight gaining bars before prom.
Maybe he knows the gloves don't fit....so he's good to go. All these zombies around.....maybe Johnnie Cocharan is on the case.
If the issues that AH had with these individuals at the nightclub were so severe that he'd commit pre-meditated murder of his GF's sister's boyfriend just for speaking to them, I imagine that it wasn't a coincidence that AH and Lloyd and the other individuals were at the same nightclub on the night of Lloyd's murder.
54thMA said:
Maybe it was the next guy who rented it. Almost got in an accident once because 6 batteries came out from under the seat after braking.
Average Reds said:
It's kind of amazing he went to the trouble of breaking his security system but managed to leave video of him with the murder weapon.
It's almost as if he wanted to be caught.
This story is surreal enough but can you imagine if he brought up a 'roid rage defense?
BoredViewer said:
Sounds like he shot the guy as he was getting out of the car. Victim slumped onto the mirror and his weight snapped it off the vehicle.
wade boggs chicken dinner said:
How would the "roid rage defense" go? I was SO ANGRY that I rented a car, grabbed the guy, drove him around with my other two friends to an abandoned place, got a gun, killed him, and tried to cover it up?
Considering what a shitty job they normally do cleaning rentals, it's a miracle they found the casing.
Maybe it was the next guy who rented it. Almost got in an accident once because 6 batteries came out from under the seat after braking.
No. The rental car worker found them and threw them in the dumpster. police found them in the dumpster
Maybe it was the next guy who rented it. Almost got in an accident once because 6 batteries came out from under the seat after braking.
No. The rental car worker found them and threw them in the dumpster. police found them in the dumpster
He might be dumb enough to use a defence that would be almost as bad even if it worked. His lawer probably isn't however.wade boggs chicken dinner said:
Weird question:
the charges had this(beyond the obvious stuff)
Charge #
Poss. large-capacity firearm 2
Poss. firearm w/o FID card 2
There was only one gun right, so why 2 counts here? (I'm just curious. I doubt it actually makes a difference).
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