Aaron Hernandez charged with 1st degree murder; released by Patriots

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Boston Brawler

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Yikes. I mean fuck him if he's guilty in all this, but this escalated quickly, and it's disappointing.
 

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Makes me think the team is expecting more than an obstruction of justice charge.
Well, yea.  I mean, you're outside your mind if you don't think the Patriots security department has had extensive communication with the authorities.
 

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MYRTLE BEACH!!!!
Expanded his legal team yesterday, Released today.  Very unlikely its obstruction only.
 
At this point I'm over Hernandez as a Pat and just want some damn details.  Press conferences please.
 

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Well I guess it's my own fault for trying to see the bright side of a Patriots player involved in a murder charge. 
 
Fuck him. Good riddance. 
 

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This is ridiculous and a terrible overreaction.  What ever happened to the presumption of innocence?
 
Sacrificing the strength on the team on the field in order to avoid a POTENTIALLY messy situation is incredibly discouraging as a fan of the sport.  This bullshit Boy Scout attitude that the Pats take is a complete farce.  
 

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It's clear the Patriots are aware that Hernandez is in for lengthy, serious criminal proceedings that may not end well. Best to not have the Patriots name dragged through the mud on this one. Can't imagine how disappointed Kraft is.
 

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They have no history of making rash decisions on disciplinary issues. Possible he was already on a one strike plan, but I'm guessing they know he's going to be charged with some level of involvement in the murder itself.
 

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redsox13 said:
This is ridiculous and a terrible overreaction.  What ever happened to the presumption of innocence?
 
Sacrificing the strength on the team on the field in order to avoid a POTENTIALLY messy situation is incredibly discouraging as a fan of the sport.  This bullshit Boy Scout attitude that the Pats take is a complete farce.  
Is this a fucking joke?
 

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Wow, on the field this really sucks.  Our TE situation has taken a big hit the past 6 months
 
Off the field, I have to give the Patriots a lot of credit, a lot of teams talk the talk of wanting high character, but very few teams actually release a player this talented.  It will be interesting to see all the facts once they come out, then this might be less of a shock.
 
 
What is the cap hit for the accelerated bonus for this???
 

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redsox13 said:
This is ridiculous and a terrible overreaction.  What ever happened to the presumption of innocence?
 
Sacrificing the strength on the team on the field in order to avoid a POTENTIALLY messy situation is incredibly discouraging as a fan of the sport.  This bullshit Boy Scout attitude that the Pats take is a complete farce.  
Are you fucking kidding me? Will he be able to do his job starting in July? If he is innocent he can get another job somewhere else. This is an entertainment business, who wants to root for scumbags?
 

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Brilliant. Release him to get out of the deal. Let this murder silliness blow over. Resign him to a more favorable contract. Bill will do it again!
 

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redsox13 said:
This is ridiculous and a terrible overreaction.  What ever happened to the presumption of innocence?
 
Sacrificing the strength on the team on the field in order to avoid a POTENTIALLY messy situation is incredibly discouraging as a fan of the sport.  This bullshit Boy Scout attitude that the Pats take is a complete farce.  
Going to take a wild guess that he wasnt going to be able to help the team this year anyways 
 

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Also, is this considered a breach of contract such that the signing bonus can be recovered and we wont have to take a cap hit?  I think there is a chance of that
 

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Are you fucking kidding me? Will he be able to do his job starting in July? If he is innocent he can get another job somewhere else. This is an entertainment business, who wants to root for scumbags?
 
Find a team in the NFL that doesn't have a scumbag on the roster.
 

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This is ridiculous and a terrible overreaction. What ever happened to the presumption of innocence?

Sacrificing the strength on the team on the field in order to avoid a POTENTIALLY messy situation is incredibly discouraging as a fan of the sport. This bullshit Boy Scout attitude that the Pats take is a complete farce.



Whatever. Did they do that to Moss or Denard or Faulk or Ty Law? No. They deserve the benefit doubt. They likely know a lot more than we do, or he was already on his last strike. Please give us one example of your supposed Boy Scout attitude.

And employers have no obligation to act on a presumption of innocence. That's a legal standard, not a business standard.
 

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redsox13 said:
This is ridiculous and a terrible overreaction.  What ever happened to the presumption of innocence?
 
Sacrificing the strength on the team on the field in order to avoid a POTENTIALLY messy situation is incredibly discouraging as a fan of the sport.  This bullshit Boy Scout attitude that the Pats take is a complete farce.  
I don't think you've been paying close attention to the team.
 

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Do we know what the cap implications are here? From the other mega thread, I recall others saying we get hit with a $12M cap charge. Is this bullshit because of the arrest or did the Pats decide to bite that bullet today by cutting him?
 
I'm a cap luddite.
 

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redsox13 said:
This is ridiculous and a terrible overreaction.  What ever happened to the presumption of innocence?
 
Sacrificing the strength on the team on the field in order to avoid a POTENTIALLY messy situation is incredibly discouraging as a fan of the sport.  This bullshit Boy Scout attitude that the Pats take is a complete farce.  
You realize he's been arrested, no?
 

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ShaneTrot said:
Are you fucking kidding me? Will he be able to do his job starting in July? If he is innocent he can get another job somewhere else. This is an entertainment business, who wants to root for scumbags?
 
You're kidding, right? We root for tons of scumbags. If you could be guaranteed a fourth ring with Hernandez on the roster, an overwhelming majority of fans would take that.
 

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Cap implications from Reiss
 

For those asking what the salary cap charge would be in the event the
Patriots ever decided to terminate the contract, the charge would be the
acceleration of the $12.5 million signing bonus. If that happened in
2013, Hernandez would count $2.55 million against the salary cap, and
then in 2014 would carry a cap charge of $7.5 million from the remaining
proration on the signing bonus.



One other factor to consider: A club can recover bonus money and
avoid a cap hit if a player violates one of the league's personal
conduct policies or defaults on contract language.
 
Hoping the bolded comes into play
 

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Mystic Merlin said:
I don't think you've been paying close attention to the team.
What, you never had a scoutmaster Dillon, Moss, Haynesworth, or Ochocinco?
 

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You're kidding, right? We root for tons of scumbags. If you could be guaranteed a fourth ring with Hernandez on the roster, an overwhelming majority of fans would take that.
Most definitely, just not going to be an option.   
 

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Are you fucking kidding me? Will he be able to do his job starting in July? If he is innocent he can get another job somewhere else. This is an entertainment business, who wants to root for scumbags?


Find a team in the NFL that doesn't have a scumbag on the roster.

I'll cheer for the team that doesn't, thank you.
 

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redsox13 said:
This is ridiculous and a terrible overreaction.  What ever happened to the presumption of innocence?
 
Sacrificing the strength on the team on the field in order to avoid a POTENTIALLY messy situation is incredibly discouraging as a fan of the sport.  This bullshit Boy Scout attitude that the Pats take is a complete farce.  
He'll get the presumption of innocence where he's entitled to it, in a court of law.
 
The league and the team have every right to act as they see fit to protect their brand.  This is a good call from that perspective.
 

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You're kidding, right? We root for tons of scumbags. If you could be guaranteed a fourth ring with Hernandez on the roster, an overwhelming majority of fans would take that.
 
I would happily root for Idi Amin if it meant making one critical third-and-short stop in a division game in November.
 

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redsox13 said:
Find a team in the NFL that doesn't have a scumbag on the roster.
Lolz. 
 
You realize this is about a murder right?  This isn't about dogs fighting, drugs, thugs, horrible tattoos, and terrible attitudes. 
 
murder
 

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redsox13 said:
This is ridiculous and a terrible overreaction.  What ever happened to the presumption of innocence?
 
Sacrificing the strength on the team on the field in order to avoid a POTENTIALLY messy situation is incredibly discouraging as a fan of the sport.  This bullshit Boy Scout attitude that the Pats take is a complete farce.  
This assumes that the Pat's FO has no more information than the people on this board, which is pretty unlikely.

As far as the presumption of innocence, I'm not sure being released by an NFL team requires a player to serve a jail sentence, but I'll admit I'm not fully read up on the CBA.

Saying this situation is potentially messy is like saying driving down the interstate in the wrong direction could potentially end badly.
 

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Are you fucking kidding me? Will he be able to do his job starting in July? If he is innocent he can get another job somewhere else. This is an entertainment business, who wants to root for scumbags?
Nothing better than a fan presuming to know what a pro athlete's character is really like.  Because they are all the genuine nice guys that ESPN and their PR people portray them to be.
 
The Pats have to know that this is a bigger deal than obstruction.
 
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