5/21 Bloom's Gambit

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I've seen enough of Kluber. Thought he was a decent depth signing when they needed warm bodies, but they don't need warm bodies anymore. Find a way to IL him or something. He can't pitch to MLB hitters anymore.
 

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Meanwhile they don't really have recourse on Hernandez returning to a bench bat. Hope he catches lightning again soon?
 

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I was thinking the same thing -- hard to say whether the QO is ultimately worth it -- but in hindsight, Eovaldi probably makes us a solid competitor in 2023/24.

EDIT: That being said, hard to predict Sale/Paxton's re-emergence, and Bello's emergence, which underscores the short-term vs. long-term thinking.
All fair points. I forgot about the QO, could have definitely extended one there. It just has turned out that Eovaldi would look great on this club right now, but it took a lot of things going a certain way to do that.
 

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I hate this shit. Farrell did this, Cora does it. Stop trying to steal outs here. You’ve seen how bad this guy is today. Stop fucking around. Two more runs isn’t worth 17 Bleier pitches.
 

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You already won the series in a long west coast swing, and had to use your best relievers in both games fairly heavily, so yes, this is a potential punt game. Whatever.
 

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Like Sale did in his final season, Kluber fell apart towards the end of 2022 -- including a large velocity drop in the middle of the season. Signing him vs using it for anything would've made more sense -- much like Masterson's signing was super questionable and clearly nostalgia/intangible hiring.

65057Ugh, terrible throw by Duran, but Kluber just sucks and it was a good move to cut it off.
 

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I hate this shit. Farrell did this, Cora does it. Stop trying to steal outs here. You’ve seen how bad this guy is today. Stop fucking around. Two more runs isn’t worth 17 Bleier pitches.
The question is does the manager think the Sox offense can produce 4+ runs with Wacha as a starter, given how he's been throwing in this game.

Personally, I'd roll the dice.

As a PS, just use Kluber on a super short leash for the game.
 

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I hate this shit. Farrell did this, Cora does it. Stop trying to steal outs here. You’ve seen how bad this guy is today. Stop fucking around. Two more runs isn’t worth 17 Bleier pitches.
I support it. Let him stay out there and throw enough pitches to give him a dead arm so he can go on the 60 day IL.
 

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All fair points. I forgot about the QO, could have definitely extended one there. It just has turned out that Eovaldi would look great on this club right now, but it took a lot of things going a certain way to do that.
Yeah, but at the same time the QO threat was always there, so the leverage existed for the kind of discount Texas got (2 years with a vested option). I agree, with hindsight, I would probably resign Eovaldi -- and the foresight is probably even money too.

Even with the QO, hard to say whether the added draft capital mattered that much for rebuilding the system vs. getting out from being sidelined on the international market (thanks Cherington) and failing to develop a pitching farm system (thanks Epstein).

Thank god Kluber gets lucky, this game could've been so much worse right now.
 

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Todays a punt game. Can they slot Whitlock in for Kluber next Saturday?
 

EricFeczko

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The question is does the manager think the Sox offense can produce 4+ runs with Wacha as a starter, given how he's been throwing in this game.

Personally, I'd roll the dice.

As a PS, just use Kluber on a super short leash for the game.
Ditto -- try to save the bullpen for games that you need. Kluber may not have many starts left, its fine to overuse him as long as he doesn't get too in the way.
 

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I understand that you needed to give him some sort of rope to figure shit out but we can’t just keep punting every 5th guy with Kluber starting games. Something has to give.
 

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Meh, I would've been ok punting this one and making a move on kluber after the game.
 

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I wish Xander had remembered his wallet just so I wouldn’t have to hear this stupid, not-terribly-interesting story every fucking game.