2022 Dolphins: Our coach is cooler than yours

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Is this unique to Tua and the Dolphins or is it true of the Reddit communities for any team that hasn't had any real success in decades?
Tua seems to be a lightning rod that’s led to a tribalism I haven’t really seen in other fan bases.
Because of fantasy/gambling, I find myself perusing through most team communities, and I’ve found them all to generally be more informed and enjoyable. For instance, there’s a fatalism and subsequent humor amongst the Lions community that’s endearing. (From my brief experience)
I have theorized something similar though, that when you lose for decades the more discerning fans start to slip by the wayside and move on with their lives…the part that is unique to the Dolphins though; is the starting point for the fan base is Florida Males. I don’t want to make broad generalizations, but after watching the reactions and prevalent sentiment to something like Flores’ tenure, it’s hard not to.
Edit* - I’m sure I’m also oversensitive at the moment. The lack of civil discourse, acceptance of facts and expertise, informed arguments, etc. in this country makes my head want to explode on any given day…so I found myself wishing I didn’t have to deal with it so overtly when I just wanted to read/talk football.



As for something actually on field…
Checking out the schedule…
Buffalo to TNF in Cincinnati is brutal.
After that though they better roll if this season is going to be a success.

Very happy to get NE week 1.
Not sure if it’s fact, or it’s been spoken into a truth, but it certainly seems like the NE gets better as the season goes on. So getting them week 1, in the heat, with Bill not even knowing for sure what the offense will look like, seems to be a best case situation there.
 
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Tua seems to be a lightning rod that’s led to a tribalism I haven’t really seen in other fan bases.
Because of fantasy/gambling, I find myself perusing through most team communities, and I’ve found them all to generally be more informed and enjoyable. For instance, there’s a fatalism and subsequent humor amongst the Lions community that’s endearing. (From my brief experience)
I have theorized something similar though, that when you lose for decades the more discerning fans start to slip by the wayside and move on with their lives…the part that is unique to the Dolphins though; is the starting point for the fan base is Florida Males. I don’t want to make broad generalizations, but after watching the reactions and prevalent sentiment to something like Flores’ tenure, it’s hard not to.
Edit* - I’m sure I’m also oversensitive at the moment. The lack of civil discourse, acceptance of facts and expertise, informed arguments, etc. in this country makes my head want to explode on any given day…so I found myself wishing I didn’t have to deal with it so overtly when I just wanted to read/talk football.



As for something actually on field…
Checking out the schedule…
Buffalo to TNF in Cincinnati is brutal.
After that though they better roll if this season is going to be a success.

Very happy to get NE week 1.
Not sure if it’s fact, or it’s been spoken into a truth, but it certainly seems like the NE gets better as the season goes on. So getting them week 1, in the heat, with Bill not even knowing for sure what the offense will look like, seems to be a best case situation there.
Couple of tough stretches in the schedule. NE, Baltimore, Buffalo, Cincy is a bit of a gauntlet to start, and this team wasn’t exactly good at getting out of the blocks with urgency under Flores.

They are going to get both New England and Buffalo at home in September. From a home field advantage perspective, you couldn’t ask for much more.

I agree that Miami has the deck stacked in their favor for week 1. I’m sure that Bill will be watching plenty of Niners and Falcons tape, but no one knows for certain what the offense is going to look like and game planning for both Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Waddle without a ton of reference material would seem like a headache to me.
 

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I prefer the schedule to be front-loaded with those road division games. It's always going to be warm in Miami for those guys coming south--I'd rather get as many trips to Buffalo and New England and the Meadowlands out of the way as possible before it gets cold up there.

(Another Sox/Celts/B's/...Fins fan here..... no figurin' some people.)

This schedule has a real nice soft underbelly to it-- @NYJ/MIN/PIT/@DET/@CHI/CLE/HOU. Won't all be easy, but a real chance to make some hay there for two months after that Cincy game.
 

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I prefer the schedule to be front-loaded with those road division games. It's always going to be warm in Miami for those guys coming south--I'd rather get as many trips to Buffalo and New England and the Meadowlands out of the way as possible before it gets cold up there.

(Another Sox/Celts/B's/...Fins fan here..... no figurin' some people.)

This schedule has a real nice soft underbelly to it-- @NYJ/MIN/PIT/@DET/@CHI/CLE/HOU. Won't all be easy, but a real chance to make some hay there for two months after that Cincy game.
Welcome, brother.

I disagree slightly. Those September games really test the road teams in Miami. I’ll never forget Lawrence Timmons barfing in the end zone in Miami. While it is always warm, nothing hits quite like 100 degrees with 100% humidity as the away team bakes in the sun in the sideline.

Absolutely agree that you don’t really want to see NE, BUF, and NYJ in late December or early January if you can help it. And of course they’ll be in Buffalo in mid December and New England on New Year’s Day.
 

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I’ve never understood why a hot game in early September favors the Dolphins. Is it simply because they make the road team wear dark uniforms? I mean, the Pats are going to spend July and August practicing and playing in the New England heat before going to Miami.
 

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I’ve never understood why a hot game in early September favors the Dolphins. Is it simply because they make the road team wear dark uniforms? I mean, the Pats are going to spend July and August practicing and playing in the New England heat before going to Miami.
Pats players have historically said it's tougher to play there in December in ~80 degree weather after getting conditioned to playing in the cold up here at that time of year.
 

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Pats players have historically said it's tougher to play there in December in ~80 degree weather after getting conditioned to playing in the cold up here at that time of year.
Yes, that I understand. What I don’t understand is why going from the summer heat of NE to Miami is so problematic.
 

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Yes, that I understand. What I don’t understand is why going from the summer heat of NE to Miami is so problematic.
Have you ever been to South Florida in the middle of the summer (June, July, August)? The heat is oppressive versus up in New England.
 

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Have you ever been to South Florida in the middle of the summer (June, July, August)? The heat is oppressive versus up in New England.
I never have, I’ve only been in winter/spring. It gets really hot in NE in July and August, so it’s surprising that Florida gets (feels) noticeably hotter.
 

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As somebody who has spent the majority of their life in Florida and many summers in NE there is absolutely no worse time of year than September in Florida. The humidity is oppressive and it totally sucks. New England is a cake walk compared to a game in Miami in September. I made the terrible mistake of attending a Pats/Miami game in Sept in Miami and it was one of the worst experiences.
 

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Another Factor: the Dolphins sideline is in the shade, the visitors sit in the scorching sun.
Such a rude way to treat a guest. If I was a visiting team, I'd rent some umbrella tables from a local resort and set them up on the sidelines -- when a player wants Gatorade or a towel or whatever, he could just raise the little numbered flag at his table.
 

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A serious and curious question for Dolphins fans here: Would you rather have Tuo or Mack Jones as your QB?
I’ll bite, despite my frustrations I expressed recently, I’d take Tua…
It’s not all that complicated, I’d put them both in the same tier, so if that’s the case, I’m gonna take our guy over the Patriot.

Conversely, I’d expect every Pats fan to pick Jones for that reason as well. I also get why someone would feel like he flashed more and be higher on him than Tua, but I think they have similar strengths and weaknesses and like I said, I’d currently have them on the same tier. I think they’ve both proven competent….and it’s TBD if they’ll be more than that, and there’s a good chance being more than “decent starter” is going to largely be dependent on supporting cast and coaching.
 

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Such a rude way to treat a guest. If I was a visiting team, I'd rent some umbrella tables from a local resort and set them up on the sidelines -- when a player wants Gatorade or a towel or whatever, he could just raise the little numbered flag at his table.
You see away teams construct canopies and they have trainers and coaches holding them over the players. Ross building the canopy over the stadium might have been his greatest achievement in shading the home team and roasting the away team.

Like many have said, there’s no escaping that heat and humidity. In NE, we have heat and humidity, but in Miami, it’s like getting slapped in the face with a wet towel in a sauna.

I’ve been to Miami in August and September and I’ve been in late December/January. Their December weather feels like a NE day in August.

Miami signed Melvin Ingram over the weekend.

Between Ingram and Michel, those guys are declarations of intent. Miami is not in rebuild mode any more. They’re in playoff push mode.
 

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Welcome, brother.

I disagree slightly. Those September games really test the road teams in Miami. I’ll never forget Lawrence Timmons barfing in the end zone in Miami. While it is always warm, nothing hits quite like 100 degrees with 100% humidity as the away team bakes in the sun in the sideline.

Absolutely agree that you don’t really want to see NE, BUF, and NYJ in late December or early January if you can help it. And of course they’ll be in Buffalo in mid December and New England on New Year’s Day.
I think Timmons barfed in Houston.

edit: apparently he barfed a lot of places!
 

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I think Timmons barfed in Houston.

edit: apparently he barfed a lot of places!
Timmons barfed in the end zone in Miami and then had that bizzare season where Miami signed him, he disappeared and basically tried to rejoin the Steelers before eventually getting suspended and playing a few games for Miami.
 

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OTAs are under way and we’re hearing stuff from McDaniel and seeing some stuff on the field.

I could probably listen to Mike McDaniel talk about football and coaching forever. The way he talks about football, and more so how he relates and connects to these guys as humans not just players, is really refreshing.

The biggest thing I’ve taken away so far is him talking about the offensive line and how he said he’s built his coaching staff and his offseason around getting the offensive line up to speed.

Obviously going into this, the line was a massive hole, but he wasn’t just talking about fixing it, he has made it a primary focus of his entire staff. Line play is critical to the success of this scheme and he is determined to get the most out of what the team has at their disposal.
 

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We all know rooting for this team has been like Groundhogs Day the past decade plus…you can take an article/preview remove the year and it would seem to apply to any of them…offensive line issues, is the QB good enough, decent defense/poor offense, mired in mediocrity etc etc.
Above all else though what that time has lacked is elite players, “playmakers” for lack of a better term, and that’s been evidenced by the Dolphins annually being a team that’s more likely to have zero pro bowlers than multiple.

Which leads me to an exercise I was conducting today. I was trying to place an objective number on expected Dolphins pro bowlers (actual not alternate), if I was creating a betting line…
What I came up with is 4.5.

Beyond McDaniel, that’s the reason I’m most optimistic about this season. Injuries can certainly change things, but for the first time in a while, I’m going into the season thinking Miami is going to have some of the best players on the field every week.

As for the 4.5, if I’m being an optimistic homer I’d clearly pound the over….but I really think that’s a fair line, and it had me excited.