That’s the worst playoff loss I’ve seen since yesterdayAbout as bad a playoff loss as you will ever see. Context aside, similar to Celtics over LA in 08 and against the Nets in 02 or whenever it was.
David Aldridge had a great quote during the ‘08 Finals that if Rajon Rondo were Lamar Odom’s height he would be Kevin Garnett* while if Lamar were Rondo’s height he would be a shoe salesman. Feels applicable to Simmons as well.I saw the score at half time and figured it was a wrap. Shocked to see Philly lost.
It's over for Simmons in Philly, he's such a liability on offense and I don't know what the answer is for him because he doesn't seem interested in improving.
How many of these injuries are due to overuse? Any?It was ridiculous that people were ignoring the effect on last year's conference finals teams and it will be just as ridiculous when they continue to ignore it now. The league asked too much of these guys. We'll see more of them go down.
Harris or Simmons to Portland for McCollum?I saw the score at half time and figured it was a wrap. Shocked to see Philly lost.
It's over for Simmons in Philly, he's such a liability on offense and I don't know what the answer is for him because he doesn't seem interested in improving.
Such a nice try, but NOPE! Not even close. This wasn't even game 7. Leaving a million other important facts aside.As a Yankee fan, I can now say 2004 is not the greatest choke ever.
Agree with this. He’s got four years left on his contract at $31.6M, $33.9M, $36.3M and $38.6M. I wonder which teams would reasonably be interested in trading for him. Golden State would be terrifying with Simmons as the point center.If Hawks close this out, I think the Process will officially be broken. Should have traded Simmons for Harden. Completely agree with the thought that Simmons would be best as small ball center. He needs to play the Boris Diaw role from those great Suns teams of the mid-2000s.
I think you have to deal him and try another combination before Embiid's health craps out.
Even Diaw shot the 3 tho. Not well, but he shot it. He was also a considerably better FT shooter.If Hawks close this out, I think the Process will officially be broken. Should have traded Simmons for Harden. Completely agree with the thought that Simmons would be best as small ball center. He needs to play the Boris Diaw role from those great Suns teams of the mid-2000s.
I think you have to deal him and try another combination before Embiid's health craps out.
I’m older. I reserve biggest choker for the 1978 Red Sox.Such a nice try, but NOPE! Not even close. This wasn't even game 7. Leaving a million other important facts aside.
The 2004 Yankees remain the biggest chokers of all time.
REPEAT: The 2004 Yankees remain the biggest chokers of all time.
Warriors are an interesting option although they would need to move Draymond and their best tradeable asset is another C along with the pick they'll be getting from Minny. Probably would need to be a 3 team deal. I was wondering about a deal centered around Simmons and Ingram. Philly would need a PG so maybe Simmons+ for Ingram/Lewis. Or go for broke and do that Westbrook/Beal/+ for Harris/Simmons deal.Agree with this. He’s got four years left on his contract at $31.6M, $33.9M, $36.3M and $38.6M. I wonder which teams would reasonably be interested in trading for him. Golden State would be terrifying with Simmons as the point center.
You're also incredibly wrong. Do you want to keep going with this? I can do this all night.I’m older. I reserve biggest choker for the 1978 Red Sox.
Kemba would be a nice fit with Embiid, just saying.Agree with this. He’s got four years left on his contract at $31.6M, $33.9M, $36.3M and $38.6M. I wonder which teams would reasonably be interested in trading for him. Golden State would be terrifying with Simmons as the point center.
We all love you, but that narrative is long dead. ‘78 is a footnote now.I’m older. I reserve biggest choker for the 1978 Red Sox.
Dan and Dave. Dan especially.I’m older. I reserve biggest choker for the 1978 Red Sox.
I feel like you are forgetting exactly what happened in 2004. You must have blocked it out or something. I don't blame you.I’m older. I reserve biggest choker for the 1978 Red Sox.
Yeah, not a perfect comparison but a decent proxy for the type of team Simmons needs to thrive. Needs to be fast paced with shooters all over the court.For his career, Diaw's average shot was 10.7 feet from the rim. HIs career low was 8.4. Ben's career is at 4.4. And he's trending in the wrong direction (5.6, 4.1, 3.6, 4.3.)
That's ridiculous.
Nope-Sox had to win last 8 games in a row to get into the BFD game only to get blind-luck robbed by Sweet Lou's game saving lucky guess.I’m older. I reserve biggest choker for the 1978 Red Sox.
Any opportunity we have to talk about 2004 with a Yankees fan does the opposite of piss us off!I feel like Red Foxx after he had the big one. It’s draining to lose a game like that, and I’m just a fan. At least Morey knows now this Simmons thing is not going to work. That’s the real lesson of this series. And yeah, 2004 is still the worst choke. Just wanted to piss you guys off.
Of course every GM in the league knows this now, and Simmons is no longer on his rookie deal. Who would trade for Simmons and what kind of return would they get?Simmons' contract makes it pretty awkward since he is paid like an alpha 1A cornerstone piece but is ultimately settling in as a guy who can be the 3rd best player on a great team as long as the 1st two are perimeter players, he can play center, and everyone else can shoot.
I'm just glad everyone is finally coming around to my extremely correct, years-long Trade Simmons takes.
The smart Yankee fans just say "Curt Schilling."Any opportunity we have to talk about 2004 with a Yankees fan does the opposite of piss us off!
Can you imagine how many words would be collectively posted here over a full season talking about his inability to shoot? I'm getting nauseous just thinking about it.What team would Ben Simmons fit the best on anyway? It's the Celtics, isn't it? A healthy Clippers team.
There aren't many teams he would fit on as is. Most teams would have to build around him.
Those words would only be spoken if the team were losing. It also requires moving TL or having him strictly back up Ben Simmons. Simmons and Smart on the court together might be a problem though. Simmons/Tatum/Brown would work imo.Can you imagine how many words would be collectively posted here over a full season talking about his inability to shoot? I'm getting nauseous just thinking about it.
I was thinking about San Antonio. They could offer Murray/Vassell/picks and they have cap space to work with, which would give them some flexibility to make additional moves to build the right team around Simmons.What team would Ben Simmons fit the best on anyway? It's the Celtics, isn't it? A healthy Clippers team.
There aren't many teams he would fit on as is. Most teams would have to build around him.
Got NYY Reggie. So clutch.Clips need either BC Reggie or Playoff Rondo